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Posted: 12/1/2021 9:21:51 PM EDT
LR Blog 345: Effective longrange shooting



https://youtu.be/1t6VGVMC5V0

I like watching this guy. He is good.

Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:28:52 PM EDT
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I use Strelok pro by Borisov for my ballistic calculations.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:30:29 PM EDT
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I have all 3 versions of strelok. I find i use strelok + the most.


Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:32:21 PM EDT
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The best part of the last 5 years is how "demystified" Long Range has become.

It had some of the worst gatekeeping of the firearms industry.

Lots of pseudo-bullshit.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:35:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:38:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:38:58 PM EDT
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(Just posted my vids for fun, theyre not really long range. Just "mid range".  Hope to try out 1k this winter at a range..)
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:39:44 PM EDT
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It’s stupid easy with good ballistics calculator if you have good inputs for the calculation.

It’s getting good inputs that most people don’t understand and or can’t get.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:40:28 PM EDT
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It had some of the worst gatekeeping of the firearms industry.

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So you don't have to sacrifice your lady to the shaman/RO?
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:42:15 PM EDT
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The best part of the last 5 years is how "demystified" Long Range has become.

It had some of the worst gatekeeping of the firearms industry.

Lots of pseudo-bullshit.
So you don't have to sacrifice your lady to the shaman/RO?

I have bad news for you...
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:46:04 PM EDT
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I've been subscribed to his channel for a couple years. Its funny that early on he didn't want to speak because he hated his voice and now he seems to have recently embraced it. I like his content.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:53:09 PM EDT
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I've been subscribed to his channel for a couple years. Its funny that early on he didn't want to speak because he hated his voice and now he seems to have recently embraced it. I like his content.
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Yeah totally. I like it way better now but it was always good
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 9:56:41 PM EDT
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Took the four day course at K&M recently and have fallen back in love with long range precision.  Seriously considering getting into PRS and NRL22 next year.

I've never heard of this guy.  I'll give him a view or two and see what he has to say.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:02:59 PM EDT
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How to shoot long range? Lots of trigger time and a lot of rounds downrange. A lot.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:03:44 PM EDT
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What is the electronic device mounted at the ocular of the scope?
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:07:15 PM EDT
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I've had Strelok pro for many years.  The developer is very attentive to his customers.  After a few emails back and forth years ago, he added a reticle for a scope I had that wasn't already in his database.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:11:08 PM EDT
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I've had Strelok pro for many years.  The developer is very attentive to his customers.  After a few emails back and forth years ago, he added a reticle for a scope I had that wasn't already in his database.
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It really is at least in my opinion, the best BC out there, he does a heck of a job and does constant updates, plus he’s very receptive to the shooters that talk to him.

Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:18:47 PM EDT
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Scope camera
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:19:06 PM EDT
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fundamentals

and knowing your dope
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:22:33 PM EDT
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and knowing your dope
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Smoking dope can help too.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:24:31 PM EDT
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Next you’re going to tell me you don’t need to know the current alignment of Jupiter’s moons in relation to Earth’s magnetosphere.
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Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:25:54 PM EDT
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I like this guy (and wife).  He goes extreme long range.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs3sYk1tuP5Er95EniC-uMw



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Next you’re going to tell me you don’t need to know the current alignment of Jupiter’s moons in relation to Earth’s magnetosphere.
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Don't worry, my new $2,000 range finder takes into account the fact that Mercury is in retrograde.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:44:21 PM EDT
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Step 1: aquire long range target.
Step 2: take a WAG at its distance.
Step 3: take a WAG at bullet drop
Step 4: shoot
Step 5: take a WAG at how far off you are and adjust dope.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 as required.

Once target is hit you have unlocked the sniper badge. Congratulations!

Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:47:55 PM EDT
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Step 1: aquire long range target.
Step 2: take a WAG at its distance.
Step 3: take a WAG at bullet drop
Step 4: shoot
Step 5: take a WAG at how far off you are and adjust dope.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 as required.

Once target is hit you have unlocked the sniper badge. Congratulations!

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You may be joking, but that is 100% how I entered shooting....at any distance.  No friends or family, at the time, to work with so it was trial and a LOT of error.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:56:16 PM EDT
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The best part of the last 5 years is how "demystified" Long Range has become.

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Lots of pseudo-bullshit.
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That is a no shit true statement.

I did eventually get lucky and found some very knowledgeable and all around good dudes to help me out.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 10:56:51 PM EDT
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It had some of the worst gatekeeping of the firearms industry.

Lots of pseudo-bullshit.
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"But... but the Coriolis effect!"
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:04:04 PM EDT
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Patchouli,

Glad to see your out shooting.  I need to get to Montana.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:04:51 PM EDT
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It’s stupid easy with good ballistics calculator if you have good inputs for the calculation.

It’s getting good inputs that most people don’t understand and or can’t get.
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It's also carrying out the shot and calling the wind, etc. If you're shooting prone at a known range, that's one thing. Under stress in a godawful shooting position with limited time/info/etc is something entirely different, and not at all easy.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:05:29 PM EDT
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How to shoot long range? Lots of trigger time and a lot of rounds downrange. A lot.
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A lot. With good reflection, note-taking, data collection, etc. Good practice takes work.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:07:34 PM EDT
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So you don't have to sacrifice your lady to the shaman Yes/RO? Maybe
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The best part of the last 5 years is how "demystified" Long Range has become.

It had some of the worst gatekeeping of the firearms industry.

Lots of pseudo-bullshit.
So you don't have to sacrifice your lady to the shaman Yes/RO? Maybe

Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:13:33 PM EDT
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I have this 10min up the road from me. Really haven’t used it as much as I would like to.

ETA damn sideways pics
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:15:24 PM EDT
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It's also carrying out the shot and calling the wind, etc. If you're shooting prone at a known range, that's one thing. Under stress in a godawful shooting position with limited time/info/etc is something entirely different, and not at all easy.
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Wind and distance are inputs are they not?

Carrying out the shot is just called “shooting.”

I would agree that wind is the most difficult input to master.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:16:59 PM EDT
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make sure your scope is level
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In before people who have never shot past 400 in their life recommending using badger dead levels or wedges to level their scope.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:18:56 PM EDT
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The number one reason long shots are missed is faulty range estimation.

Laser range finders have eliminated that problem.

If you have a Kestrel, accurate ranging and know your dope your hit probability is significantly increased.

I used to cheat 35 years ago when shooting high power. I would wait until all the targets came up from the pits after everyone else had already fired their first round. I would know by the seat of my pants and lots of practice what I thought the wind was doing. So did most everyone else.

If the targets came out of the pits with almost everyone blowing rounds out to one side, I knew the wind was having more of an effect than what everyone else was dialing.

I would only lose about one minute of time out of the 20 minute block to gain more insight into dialing my first rounds down range.
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/6315C3E5-4048-4036-A950-45FFF334DD43_jpe-2188766.JPG

I have this 10min up the road from me. Really haven’t used it as much as I would like to.

ETA damn sideways pics
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Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:22:48 PM EDT
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Know your actual velocity, learn to read wind through practice, use a ballistic calculator and true it through shooting.

You need to reload in order to do it right.
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https://media.mwstatic.com/product-images/src/Primary/210/210932.jpg?imwidth=480

In before people who have never shot past 400 in their life recommending using badger dead levels or wedges to level their scope.
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make sure your scope is level

https://media.mwstatic.com/product-images/src/Primary/210/210932.jpg?imwidth=480

In before people who have never shot past 400 in their life recommending using badger dead levels or wedges to level their scope.

2 levels and and a plumb bob guy checking in.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:35:11 PM EDT
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Know your actual velocity, learn to read wind through practice, use a ballistic calculator and true it through shooting.

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The reloading part is its own rabbit hole.

Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:44:13 PM EDT
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Reload, Labradar, learn how to read the wind.

4DOF

We started at 1000 yards (308) pushed it it out to 1500, nope went 6.5 CM, then one smart elbow said why not a mile? went to 338 Lapua; we are now at 2000 yards target is 36x36 inches.  Wind is not your friend.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:45:45 PM EDT
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I binged the hell out of THLR’s videos a month ago. His videos are short and straight to the point and a lot of examples of bad form and how to correct it.
Link Posted: 12/1/2021 11:50:54 PM EDT
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So true. A $1000 6.5CM, $1000 optic, a Cleckner book and a $30 calculator can get you to a Km pretty easily.

Now I'm down the reloading Rabbit Hole and it is even more fun.
Link Posted: 12/2/2021 12:01:17 AM EDT
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One thing ive never seen until his vids is the way he establishes his firing grip. I don't like it. Starting at the trigger. Seems somewhat unsafe compared to the way weve all been taught to keep trigger finger off until time to shoot. But he is obviously way more proficient  than me.

Is this a standard technique or some weird Scandinavian thing?
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The reloading part is its own rabbit hole.

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You need to reload in order to do it right.

The reloading part is its own rabbit hole.



Aint that the truth.
Link Posted: 12/2/2021 12:19:19 AM EDT
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Sacrifice her?
Hell, I had to build a long range rifle for her.


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My first thought.
Link Posted: 12/2/2021 12:28:10 AM EDT
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You may be joking, but that is 100% how I entered shooting....at any distance.  No friends or family, at the time, to work with so it was trial and a LOT of error.
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Step 1: aquire long range target.
Step 2: take a WAG at its distance.
Step 3: take a WAG at bullet drop
Step 4: shoot
Step 5: take a WAG at how far off you are and adjust dope.

Repeat steps 4 and 5 as required.

Once target is hit you have unlocked the sniper badge. Congratulations!

You may be joking, but that is 100% how I entered shooting....at any distance.  No friends or family, at the time, to work with so it was trial and a LOT of error.


Yep,  lot of ground squirrels got away that were 400 yards or better in the beginning.
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Feeler gauges between the bottom of the turret housing and whatever the rail/1-piece mount will usually get you square the same way as that device. Though it is much easier to use. Just dont over-do it on how many you use and torque the rings all the way or you can clamp the gauges in place and slightly bend the scope in the mount.

I still confirm with a bob and precision level. Otherwise you are just asking for induced windage you never know is there... especially if you shoot on the same range often and the prevailing winds there are similar every trip. Very easy to attribute a dialed wind to entirely the wind and not a combination of wind and scope and not notice if the wind is always very similar.
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