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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:17:59 PM EDT
I just weighed an SBR/SPR that I have.  This gun has morphed quite a bit over the years.


It’s a medium counter 223 Wylde barrel...11.75” w/mid gas system....suppressed (perm attached DT silencer bringing it to 17”)
Magpul SL stock and grip
SLR rail
Leupold MK6 1-8x Larue mount
DBAL
Scout light
Sling


It’s not KISS slick but it’s also not “accessory beast”

After some off hand shooting the other day I began to realize it’s not the lightest AR in the world.

Today I decided to see how much.........

11lbs!!!!!!  

I usually don’t get anal about shaving ounces but I may start looking into Ti parts here and there to shave some weight off this fatty.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:19:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Must have pics of AR on scale to start a scale thread..

Once you start slapping all the go-fast parts on there, it's not very go fast anymore.  Go figure.

I'm at 8lbs 5oz with all the bullshit hung on it and 9lbs 6oz loaded.  14.5 p/w

For reference, a stock M4(14.5") is about 6.5lbs give or take with no optics and carry handle.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:20:48 PM EDT
[#2]
I don’t know. Like a little over 7.5 pounds loaded. It’s super light as my go to is extremely simple. No real bells and whistles standard setup with MOE furniture and a vortex strike eagle 1-6
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:22:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:27:02 PM EDT
[#4]
I had a slick KISS with irons I used for work that was right 6lbs unloaded.


Simple and effective.  


But the weight of suppressors are worth it.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:27:54 PM EDT
[#5]
8.7 pounds
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:30:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Plenty?

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:31:02 PM EDT
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That has to be over 12lbs

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:31:51 PM EDT
[#8]
8.6, NO can. 9.12 WITH can.  
Braced with a 11.5 Hbar, YHM 51t tri-fang, Surefire660, SAMSON quad rail, AFG, Micro T1 and normal capacity mag. She's kind of thicc...
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:32:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Pencil 16" with A2 upper, Cav Arms lower, no ultralight specialty parts.

IIRC 6.9lbs loaded?
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:32:38 PM EDT
[#10]
My "go to" AR is an SP1 Govt Slab Side Carbine with a pencil barrel that is feather light.

Lightness is the true soul of an AR15.



Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:32:52 PM EDT
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Easily.

And I run stages with it all night with plates and nods.

Same with my 17 lb mk11.

As long as you train with what you plan to run, I don’t see weight as a huge problem. If you plan on covering 10’s of miles with your gear, train that way.

Building a heavy ass gun and never going out with it is a problem. First time you do it will kick your butt.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:33:22 PM EDT
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She’s a big girl.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:34:00 PM EDT
[#13]
7.8lbs or so. BCM stock, Leupold mark AR 1.5-4, streamlight flashlight with pressure tape.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:35:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Sub 7lbs. KAC 14.5” mod 2

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:36:02 PM EDT
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Easily.

And I run stages with it all night with plates and nods.

Same with my 17 lb mk11.

As long as you train with what you plan to run, I don’t see weight as a huge problem. If you plan on covering 10’s of miles with your gear, train that way.
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This is why I still do the battle buddy ruck (though by myself) due to my gear and my rifle. It’s light compared to my pack that I ruck with.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:36:47 PM EDT
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If I have to "go to" shomething it will be a hell of a lot nastier than an AR.
But any fighting gun should be 7 to 10 pounds, heavy enough to be stable and light enough to not wear you down.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:37:02 PM EDT
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This is why I still do the battle buddy ruck (though by myself) due to my gear and my rifle. It’s light compared to my pack that I ruck with.

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Awesome!

Yea that’s the way. I bet your normal load out feels light.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:37:43 PM EDT
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Awesome!

Yea that’s the way. I bet your normal load out feels light.
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Yes. Yes it does.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:38:33 PM EDT
[#19]
I only have the old style bathroom scale, not digital.  Shows roughly 8 1/2 lbs loaded with a 30rd USGI mag with 30 rds.  Rifle is a Block 1 clone.  Has a PRO (CompM2 clone with QRP mount), Surefire M951 light, Matech BUIS, SOPMOD B5 stock, the SOCCOM 14.5" Colt barrel with their extended A2, KAC RAS with vertical grip and Blue Force Gear sling.  I expected it to weigh even more.

This is my rifle for the upcoming Boogaloo so it needs to be set up for rugged action, even if it weighs a bit more.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:39:57 PM EDT
[#20]
What gun?
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:42:27 PM EDT
[#21]
about 10lbs.  Billet upper and lower + Noveske 18" medium-weight barrel is somewhat heavy, but stupid-accurate.  I'm not carrying it for 6 miles, so weight doesn't bother me.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:42:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Too much, probably 9-10 lbs I'd guess.

I'd like to do a gwacs lower build with a pencil barrel, but the faxon pencil barrels are unicorn cocaine right now.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:46:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Aero Precision M5, 6.5 CR, 24” heavy barrel, 15” forearm, Altas bipod, MagPull MBR stock, Primary Arms 4x16x44 scope.

19.7 lbs.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:47:27 PM EDT
[#24]
What ever my SP-1 carbine weighs with a full magazine, guessing around 6lbs.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:47:39 PM EDT
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IIRC 6.9lbs loaded?
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That's not bad.  You could even shave another half pound off without trying too hard.    

Optic or irons?
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:48:54 PM EDT
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Dude, what a cool weapon you have there. But just as neat is looking out your window and seeing those trees outside with that very quiet road and split rail fence . Sure looks like nothing like where I live in Houston. Which part of Texas you at?
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:50:23 PM EDT
[#27]
10.8 on the KAC


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:50:33 PM EDT
[#28]
I have my 16" ar10 at 5.98lbs. not including the optic.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:50:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:53:44 PM EDT
[#30]
If I recall, before I joined (the lurking years) I saw someone who built an ultralight 4.5’ish lb AR.

Nothing that wasn’t absolutely essential. No forward assist. No ejection port cover. Titanium firing pin and take down pins.  Pretty sure it was a polymer lower, and maybe even a polymer upper(forget who made those things).

Anyway, maybe fun to show off but I got to imagine recoil on that thing was ridiculous.


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:54:11 PM EDT
[#31]
DD SLW 5.9lbs off the shelf.

Mine has a Trijicon MRO and a Streamlight.  Probably right around 7lbs.  


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:55:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:56:52 PM EDT
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Dude, what a cool weapon you have there. But just as neat is looking out your window and seeing those trees outside with that very quiet road and split rail fence . Sure looks like nothing like where I live in Houston. Which part of Texas you at?
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Magnolia area. Not that far out from Houston.

Sense 99 finished this side is getting hammered with new sub divisions and the like.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:57:33 PM EDT
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Who the hell cares? Don't be a weight weenie.

ETA: within reason.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:58:09 PM EDT
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If I recall, before I joined (the lurking years) I saw someone who built an ultralight 4.5’ish lb AR.

Nothing that wasn’t absolutely essential. No forward assist. No ejection port cover. Titanium firing pin and take down pins.  Pretty sure it was a polymer lower, and maybe even a polymer upper(forget who made those things).

Anyway, maybe fun to show off but I got to imagine recoil on that thing was ridiculous.


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Probably rides a road bike too.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:58:29 PM EDT
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7 and a bit.  

Midlength with fixed fsb and a red dot.  

I guess I could swap the upper to a Faxon pencil barrel with a Manticore ff hand guard and save about a lb.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:59:23 PM EDT
[#37]
No idea

Even if I knew, I wouldn’t change anything on it because I’m not a weakling
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:01:33 PM EDT
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No idea, it's not what I would call heavy, though.

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:01:55 PM EDT
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Just got my wife a Faxon FX5500 at just less than 5 lbs

My accessorized out AR weighs double
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:02:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:02:27 PM EDT
[#41]
Q 16” Sugar Weasel AR-15 in 556. It’s crazy light weight.

Weighs 5 lbs before ammo, acog/rmr, and dbal d2..
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:02:40 PM EDT
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If I recall, before I joined (the lurking years) I saw someone who built an ultralight 4.5’ish lb AR.

Nothing that wasn’t absolutely essential. No forward assist. No ejection port cover. Titanium firing pin and take down pins.  Pretty sure it was a polymer lower, and maybe even a polymer upper(forget who made those things).

Anyway, maybe fun to show off but I got to imagine recoil on that thing was ridiculous.


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Yeah, 223 is quite the powerhouse, about the same recoil impulse as 9mm parabellum AKA 9mm wristbreaker.

I have a ~3lbs 45colt rifle I built, it dislocates shoulders.


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:04:19 PM EDT
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9 pounds and some change, loaded.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:04:57 PM EDT
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A lot?
More after I add a Dbal D2
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:05:41 PM EDT
[#45]
My go to isn't an AR, so my ParaFal is about 9 lbs with optic.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:05:53 PM EDT
[#46]
~16 pounds with only a 1-4X lpvo
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:06:25 PM EDT
[#47]
16" with the ATACR 1-8 and Spuhr mount, it's pretty fucking heavy... unloaded.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:09:15 PM EDT
[#48]
9.4 lbs.  10 rd mag .358 Winchester

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:11:06 PM EDT
[#49]
my go to rifle for long range is a 308, if i had to bug out with something smaller it would be my ghm9 or 300 blk.




Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:12:05 PM EDT
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I have my 16" ar10 at 5.98lbs. not including the optic.

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I looked back. I was wrong.  6.98lbs done. Sorry.

130.2oz with a heavy optic. Not bad for a ar10

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