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Posted: 12/18/2018 4:57:32 PM EDT
[#1]
IMO the banners have a friend in the whitehouse and they'll use it. So, weeks for braces and binary triggers.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:00:18 PM EDT
[#2]
How about not giving them ideas
Thanks 
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:01:41 PM EDT
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The ADA lobby is too strong.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:03:30 PM EDT
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The ADA lobby is too strong. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:03:57 PM EDT
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The ADA lobby is too strong. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:05:18 PM EDT
[#6]
you may as well just start going down the list then...
How long before a new ruling on __________ Phil N De'blanc |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:12:39 PM EDT
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Depends on how quickly some asshole uses one in a highly publicized shooting.....rate of fire not affected so not necessarily direct comparison. Binary triggers however
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:17:48 PM EDT
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you may as well just start going down the list then... How long before a new ruling on __________ Phil N De'blanc 
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:19:12 PM EDT
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If they can ban bump stocks like this then braces are the least of our concerns. They can pick anything they don’t like and do away with it at this point if this stands.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:23:15 PM EDT
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Depends on how quickly some asshole uses one in a highly publicized shooting.....rate of fire not affected so not necessarily direct comparison. Binary triggers however They'll label it a super small, covert, armor piercing death device "these things go through bulletproof vests!" "the children!" "our LEOs aren't safe!" |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:23:36 PM EDT
[#11]
what brace?
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:24:17 PM EDT
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This, if they will bat for braces then they will never go away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The ADA lobby is too strong. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:25:10 PM EDT
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I don't think braces are even on Trump's radar. He probably doesn't know they exist or what they are.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:26:58 PM EDT
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Why would someone in Mexico care?
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:31:21 PM EDT
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Do some of you guys not remember what the purpose of the bump stock was supposed to be?
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:32:10 PM EDT
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I don't think braces are even on Trump's radar. He probably doesn't know they exist or what they are. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:33:58 PM EDT
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Do some of you guys not remember what the purpose of the bump stock was supposed to be? 
You can still bump fire without them
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:35:27 PM EDT
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1. STFU, op.
2. see 1. 3. as soon as some asshole uses one to fuck shit up for everyone else. 4. see 3, again. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:35:37 PM EDT
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How about not giving them ideas Thanks |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:36:10 PM EDT
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My personal opinion is that braces aren't really on the radar of many people outside of the BATFE, so short of them becoming super high profile (like the bumpstock after the Vegas shooting), I don't see them going anywhere for the time being.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:36:36 PM EDT
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I don't think braces are even on Trump's radar. He probably doesn't know they exist or what they are. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:38:03 PM EDT
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Braces and binary triggers will be on the menu as soon as the new CONgress is sworn in.
The swamp is angry, and they're drooling to do the bidding of their globalist masters. But by all means, keep telling yourselves elections make a difference & your vote counts. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 5:39:12 PM EDT
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With the new policy regarding ruling on accessories combined with the bump stock ban. I don't think anyone can seriously argue that arm braces aren't just exploiting a loophole in the wording of definitions. Bump stocks similarly exploited a loop hole. None of it should be prohibited because the NFA is unconstitutional, however this to me seems like a case of playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes. For years you have a bunch of people showing how they basically have found a way around a prohibited item and rubbed it in the govt face. Same thing is happening with braces. Thoughts? Play stupid games... |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:02:05 PM EDT
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how do they know who has a bumpstock, brace, or a nerf gun??
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:05:43 PM EDT
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Might as well get rid of your guns since it's only a matter of time until they ban them. Play stupid games... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With the new policy regarding ruling on accessories combined with the bump stock ban. I don't think anyone can seriously argue that arm braces aren't just exploiting a loophole in the wording of definitions. Bump stocks similarly exploited a loop hole. None of it should be prohibited because the NFA is unconstitutional, however this to me seems like a case of playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes. For years you have a bunch of people showing how they basically have found a way around a prohibited item and rubbed it in the govt face. Same thing is happening with braces. Thoughts? Play stupid games... |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:06:17 PM EDT
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If they can ban bump stocks like this then braces are the least of our concerns. They can pick anything they don’t like and do away with it at this point if this stands. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:07:41 PM EDT
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How many SBRs does OP own?
I've never understood why so many have such issues with something that gives gun owners more freedom. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:08:32 PM EDT
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If there is a highly publicized shooting where a braced pistol is snuck in somewhere then I think we can say goodbye to braces. Unless that happens then I doubt anyone cares enough to ban them.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:10:18 PM EDT
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Ask the NRA.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:11:05 PM EDT
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How about not giving them ideas Thanks Or when they find out about binary triggers |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:13:35 PM EDT
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They can pretty much use the exact same reasoning for binary triggers, and likely will at some point. I think braces are a little different, while it would not be hard to ban, they do have a more legit use. Reading the entire rule, it's pretty legit and would be relatively hard to overturn.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:13:50 PM EDT
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It sets bad precedent, but I think the bump stock ban will be a one time event, at least under Republicans.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:16:06 PM EDT
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Trump will probably push for a new AWB once the next big shooting happens.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:16:45 PM EDT
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How many SBRs does OP own? I've never understood why so many have such issues with something that gives gun owners more freedom. Zero bump stocks or braces. @fla556guy |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:21:18 PM EDT
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The next "shooting" will probably be an AR pistol. It'll probably be one of those $259 kits and people will ask "how are they selling these death machines so cheap?" And "they're so small you can hide them in a backpack!"
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:24:50 PM EDT
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The ADA lobby is too strong. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:26:36 PM EDT
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No private sales, and UBC will be next.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:29:46 PM EDT
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This shit again.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:29:47 PM EDT
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I don't think braces are even on Trump's radar. He probably doesn't know they exist or what they are. One high body count shooting with a brace, sorry, "a device which lets the user circumvent the lawful 1934 ban on short rifles and allows them to more easily conceal their murder machines" and he'll roll over like a fat seal in front of a fish bucket. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:32:46 PM EDT
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Trump Jr. is an avid shooter and 2nd amendment supporter. I say that but then again he might just be "The rich people should have guns" supporter. I follow him on instagram and he seems to be raising his kids right and hunting with them often and shooting guns. I find it hard to believe he doesn't have more pull with his dad.
I'm pissed about the infringement and the fact the gov't just keeps fucking taking but lets be honest, the bump stock is fucking stupid. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:35:03 PM EDT
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Ask the NRA. 
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:35:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Since we have braces, the .gov needs to either take SBR's out of the NFA or speed pass that stuff with a $200 online pay and click tax stamp.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:36:11 PM EDT
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It depends on “the Spirit” of all the prior ATF rulings.
Expect “The Donald” to endorse anything. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 SBR, a few mgs, a lot of cans Zero bump stocks or braces. @fla556guy
@Kolat |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:40:15 PM EDT
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IMO the banners have a friend in the whitehouse and they'll use it. So, weeks for braces and binary triggers. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:45:09 PM EDT
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How about not giving them ideas Thanks |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:45:56 PM EDT
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I'll bite I take it ADA is not American Dental Assn? |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:47:44 PM EDT
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I expect a statement from the NRA any day how.......
Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of pistol braces, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic pistols to function like semi automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. |
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:52:17 PM EDT
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My guess is some dirtbag will use a suppressor in the near future. Think of the outrage.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 8:53:33 PM EDT
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The one advantage we have with braces is that, near as I can tell, they are far more popular than bump stocks. That means more political risk with a ban. And for those who are sure to say that the politicians won't care, ask yourself why handgun bans haven't met with much success despite the fact that everyone knows they are the favored firearms of criminals.
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