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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:38:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Why did the deep state plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6?

Why did the J6 committee lie to everyone? Why did they try to cover up the truth of J6?

Come on you can get there.


Why do you support disinformation campaigns to obfuscate the truth?
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No. We can talk about Jan 6 once you concede Powell and Rudy were intentionally lying to take advantage of people.
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:41:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


No. We can talk about Jan 6 once you concede Powell and Rudy were intentionally lying to take advantage of people.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Why did the deep state plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6?

Why did the J6 committee lie to everyone? Why did they try to cover up the truth of J6?

Come on you can get there.


Why do you support disinformation campaigns to obfuscate the truth?


No. We can talk about Jan 6 once you concede Powell and Rudy were intentionally lying to take advantage of people.


Is that what they said?

What is the purpose of disinformation?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:45:45 PM EST
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As the Governor of Florida, if you can't take on Disney and win.

How are you going to deal with Iran, not to mention Russia or China.

He got out maneuvered my Mickey the Rat!
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:46:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Is that what they said?

What is the purpose of disinformation?
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Sidney Powell admitted in a filing in federal court that “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.” Powell made the filing in response to a defamation suit from Dominion Voting Systems in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

So which is it?  Was she lying before, or lying now? Do you consider yourself a reasonable person?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:47:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Sidney Powell admitted in a filing in federal court that “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.” Powell made the filing in response to a defamation suit from Dominion Voting Systems in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

So which is it?  Was she lying before, or lying now? Do you consider yourself a reasonable person?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Is that what they said?

What is the purpose of disinformation?


Sidney Powell admitted in a filing in federal court that “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.” Powell made the filing in response to a defamation suit from Dominion Voting Systems in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

So which is it?  Was she lying before, or lying now? Do you consider yourself a reasonable person?


That sounds like some word smithing.

Did they admit they were intentionally lying about everything to con people or not?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:50:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


That sounds like some word smithing.

Did they admit they were intentionally lying about everything to con people or not?
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Ok, good. More progress.

You admit Powell and Guilianni were lying, now we are moving on to their motivation?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:53:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Ok, good. More progress.

You admit Powell and Guilianni were lying, now we are moving on to their motivation?
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


That sounds like some word smithing.

Did they admit they were intentionally lying about everything to con people or not?


Ok, good. More progress.

You admit Powell and Guilianni were lying, now we are moving on to their motivation?


I've already admitted some of the claims were disinformation to obfuscate the truth.

Why did the deep state need to spread disinformation about the stolen election?

Why did they need to stop a congressional challenge to the election, by planting pipe bombs and inciting a riot?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:55:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


I've already admitted some of the claims were disinformation to obfuscate the truth.

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No, they were intentional lies to take advantage of the gullible.

Get there, and then we can move towards talking about Jan 6.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:55:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By stickfigure:
As the Governor of Florida, if you can't take on Disney and win.

How are you going to deal with Iran, not to mention Russia or China.

He got out maneuvered my Mickey the Rat!
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lol

Disney CEO says company will 'quiet the noise' in culture wars, according to analyst note
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:56:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


No, they were intentional lies to take advantage of the gullible.

Get there, and then we can move towards talking about Jan 6.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


I've already admitted some of the claims were disinformation to obfuscate the truth.



No, they were intentional lies to take advantage of the gullible.

Get there, and then we can move towards talking about Jan 6.


I can't agree to something without evidence or logic.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:57:21 PM EST
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I’m still trying to figure out how members here are supporting a candidate that voices support for banning the firearm this site is named after?

This is irrefutable.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:00:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


I can't agree to something without evidence or logic.
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Evidence… meaning the defendant’s own admission, and inability to ever produce evidence supporting their claims.

The logic is there, you just have to reach out and grab it.

Come on dude.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:03:17 PM EST
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I wonder how many pages this went before the DeSantis supporters stopped caring about Ron and made his thread all about Trump
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:09:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


Evidence… meaning the defendant’s own admission, and inability to ever produce evidence supporting their claims.

The logic is there, you just have to reach out and grab it.

Come on dude.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


I can't agree to something without evidence or logic.


Evidence… meaning the defendant’s own admission, and inability to ever produce evidence supporting their claims.

The logic is there, you just have to reach out and grab it.

Come on dude.


Look it's impossible for you to convince me the election was not stolen.

I admit not all the claims were true, as disinformation was spread. Of course it was.

I admit people like Giuliani or Powell, were not the best people or the smartest. So they were wrong about some things. I don't follow them so I don't give a shit. I'm loyal to no one.

So whatever you think you are trying to accomplish, isn't going to happen.

Let's get into the logic of why they rigged an election for a criminal?

Why did all of these intelligence officials lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, which contains evidence of the Biden crime families dealings?

Why have they been covering for these crimes? Of course they have. Since we all know of the blatant criminal money laundering.


Then we can move on to what motivated them to run their J6 Fedsurrection.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:10:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:
I wonder how many pages this went before the DeSantis supporters stopped caring about Ron and made his thread all about Trump
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When the poster I’m responding to derailed it by calling me a liar.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:11:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Look it's impossible for you to convince me the election was not stolen.

I admit not all the claims were true, as disinformation was spread. Of course it was.

I admit people like Giuliani or Powell, were not the best people or the smartest. So they were wrong about some things. I don't follow them so I don't give a shit. I'm loyal to no one.

So whatever you think you are trying to accomplish, isn't going to happen.

Let's get into the logic of why they rigged an election for a criminal?

Why did all of these intelligence officials lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, which contains evidence of the Biden crime families dealings?

Why have they been covering for these crimes?


Then we can move on to what motivated them to run their J6 Fedsurrection.
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You called me a liar.

I’m simply calling you out on your hypocrisy for still supporting, and believing, actual admitted liars.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:12:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


When the poster I’m responding to derailed it by calling me a liar.
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Did he, did you lie?
So now this thread is about you? Ron is inspirational
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:13:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:
I wonder how many pages this went before the DeSantis supporters stopped caring about Ron and made his thread all about Trump
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they stopped when I posted this-

Ron DeSantis has released an ad indoctrinating his children into Trumpism
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:14:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Look it's impossible for you to convince me the election was not stolen.

I admit not all the claims were true, as disinformation was spread. Of course it was.

I admit people like Giuliani or Powell, were not the best people or the smartest. So they were wrong about some things. I don't follow them so I don't give a shit. I'm loyal to no one.

So whatever you think you are trying to accomplish, isn't going to happen.

Let's get into the logic of why they rigged an election for a criminal?

Why did all of these intelligence officials lie about the Hunter Biden laptop, which contains evidence of the Biden crime families dealings?

Why have they been covering for these crimes? Of course they have. Since we all know of the blatant criminal money laundering.


Then we can move on to what motivated them to run their J6 Fedsurrection.
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Bill Barr admitting well after the fact that the 51 liars letter swung the election .
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:18:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


... this is why Desantis is losing.
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No.  It isn't.  
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:19:38 PM EST
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In response to Trump's latest bright idea, cancel the primary:

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:19:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Liquid77:
I'm still trying to figure out how members here are supporting a candidate that voices support for banning the firearm this site is named after?

This is irrefutable.
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They are gullible morons, that's why.

They will post every day simping for an 80 year old anti-gun big government 8 trillion dollar deficit in 4 years NYC RINO like a bunch of buffoons, and then will bitch and complain when don either loses the general or fails miserably doing anything--just like his last term. The MFer even gave Fauci a medal and has stated repeatedly how great a job he thinks they did with covid, lockdowns and all.

If Don is the candidate the GOP puts up then we deserve to lose. There are candidates running that don't have the baggage, are actually conservative with a proven record, actually enact their stated agenda, and most importantly actually get elected. This cycle, the 2022 cycle, and 2020 has been the largest amount of abject stupidity by a group I've ever seen.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:22:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By iveseenalittleontv:


they stopped when I posted this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:
I wonder how many pages this went before the DeSantis supporters stopped caring about Ron and made his thread all about Trump


they stopped when I posted this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs

Everyone makes mistakes.

Smart people learn from them and change their ways. Dumb people, well, they keep trying the same candidate thing over and over, expecting a different result.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:22:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:

Did he, did you lie?
So now this thread is about you? Ron is inspirational
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It’s not. It’s about why Desantis is struggling for the GOP nomination.

But it’s turned into a microcosm of the types of dumb stuff Trump supporters fell for, and refuse to admit that duped them, while still engaging in the mental gymnastics required to justify voting for him again in the primary.  

Nu3gawut has pretty much fully admitted the lawyers charged with defending the 2020 “stolen election” were a complete fraud. Yet he still subscribes to their nonsense. This is the epitome of the insurmountable challenge an actually intellectual conservative has to overcome in 2023 America.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:25:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:


It’s not. It’s about why Desantis is struggling for the GOP nomination.

But it’s turned into a microcosm of the types of dumb stuff Trump supporters fell for, and refuse to admit that duped them, while still engaging in the mental gymnastics required to justify voting for him again in the primary.  

Nuga3whatever his name is has pretty much fully admitted the lawyers charged with defending the 2020 “stolen election” were a complete fraud. Yet he still subscribes to their nonsense. This is the epitome of the insurmountable challenge an actually intellectual conservative has to overcome in 2023 America.
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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By Gspointer:

Did he, did you lie?
So now this thread is about you? Ron is inspirational


It’s not. It’s about why Desantis is struggling for the GOP nomination.

But it’s turned into a microcosm of the types of dumb stuff Trump supporters fell for, and refuse to admit that duped them, while still engaging in the mental gymnastics required to justify voting for him again in the primary.  

Nuga3whatever his name is has pretty much fully admitted the lawyers charged with defending the 2020 “stolen election” were a complete fraud. Yet he still subscribes to their nonsense. This is the epitome of the insurmountable challenge an actually intellectual conservative has to overcome in 2023 America.


No, I admitted to there being some disinformation that they got conned into believing.

That doesn't discredit everything like you want it to.


Nor do any Maoist struggle session inspired coerced statements make any convincing arguments.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:28:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No, I admitted to there being some disinformation that they got conned into believing.

That doesn't discredit everything like you want it to.
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I’m sorry man. I suppose I was giving you a little more credit than you deserve.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:29:29 PM EST
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- knock off the personal attacks -
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:30:17 PM EST
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Mittens was a better national candidate than Desantis.  That’s why he ain’t it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:36:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Look I know you've got a job to do.

You're a little better than some of the others. But still not up to snuff.


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Originally Posted By Low_Country:
Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


No, I admitted to there being some disinformation that they got conned into believing.

That doesn't discredit everything like you want it to.


I'm sorry man. I suppose I was giving you a little more credit than you deserve.


Look I know you've got a job to do.

You're a little better than some of the others. But still not up to snuff.


That's probably what I would say too if I was in your position and couldn't back anything up with facts.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:40:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:
Mittens was a better national candidate than Desantis.  That’s why he ain’t it.
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That's true if you're inclined to like Democrats.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:44:23 PM EST
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That’s cute.  You know what I’m talking about.  The ability to connect with people who you want to vote for you. We’ve been over this.

Desantis is a terrible candidate but carry on with your trump thread.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:44:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Look I know you've got a job to do.

You're a little better than some of the others. But still not up to snuff.


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So you have called me a liar. And then a communist (Maoist). And now insinuating in a paid poster.

All because I’ve posted facts that are inconvenient to the lies youve fallen for.

I’ll say it again - this is why Desantis is losing.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:45:27 PM EST
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Rick DeSantis is done. He has no path to nomination. It will be Trump.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:48:39 PM EST
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The Republican establishment/RINO’s should be ashamed of their treason, not bragging about it.

It’s not his fault his own party betrayed him & America.


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The irony of referring to those who opposed a liberal populist masquerading as a Republican as "RINOs" is so thick you could set a telephone post in it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:49:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:


That’s cute.  You know what I’m talking about.  The ability to connect with people who you want to vote for you. We’ve been over this.

Desantis is a terrible candidate but carry on with your trump thread.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


That's true if you're inclined to like Democrats.


That’s cute.  You know what I’m talking about.  The ability to connect with people who you want to vote for you. We’ve been over this.

Desantis is a terrible candidate but carry on with your trump thread.


Are you saying that at least a plurality of voters are WWE fans? I'm afraid that you are probably correct.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:54:06 PM EST
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Kinda wish I had saved some of the replies when I predicted this early in the summer when it wasn’t a cool thing to say out loud.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:56:53 PM EST
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Are you saying that at least a plurality of voters are WWE fans? I'm afraid that you are probably correct.
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Look man, what is the title of this thread?  I'll read it for you.. "HOW DESANTIS BLEW IT".  I commented on that.  

You fuckers are so obsessed with Trump you don't even know what the topic at hand is.  It's fucking annoying and it really does speak to what kind of people Desantis IS connecting with.  

He is not connecting with Republican voters and I would think that should be your concern.  But again, carry on making EVERYTHING about trump.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:58:13 PM EST
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Unfortunately this nation is pretty dumb when you look at the people collectively. It won't matter if Trump or DeSantis wins the primary, you still have people who think Biden should win reelection because he is the best choice. Those that know Biden and the democrats are horrible either think that the GOPe will come save the day and/or that elections will be fair.

The people that are not dumb understand that democrats and a good chunk of the GOPe do not give a rats ass about the people. The UniParty rules this country and it is just the same old bullshit game of giving a shit about the people right until they win their election and fucks be given on day one.

The people that should be incharge, like Jim Jordan who couldn't win the speaker, or how Thomas Massie would make an excellent President, the people who should be in charge won't be. Times are not hard enough yet to get the President we actually need to steer this ship straight.

So if you boys want to keep arguing about Trump vs DeSantis, it won't matter which one of them wins the primary at this point. You can hope in one hand and shit in the other. The Republican strategy is still to snatch defeat from the hands of victory.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:58:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By nu3gawhat:


Why did the deep state plant pipe bombs and incite a riot on J6?

Why did the J6 committee lie to everyone? Why did they try to cover up the truth of J6?

Come on you can get there.


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Holy fucking shit.   Now it was the "deep state" that fired up a crowd of Trumpers and launched them toward the Capitol to "stop the steal".  
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:00:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:


That’s cute.  You know what I’m talking about.  The ability to connect with people who you want to vote for you. We’ve been over this.

Desantis is a terrible candidate but carry on with your trump thread.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


That's true if you're inclined to like Democrats.


That’s cute.  You know what I’m talking about.  The ability to connect with people who you want to vote for you. We’ve been over this.

Desantis is a terrible candidate but carry on with your trump thread.

Which is why he turned America's biggest purple swing state deep red inside of a single election cycle.

This stuff is why people don't take Trump supporters seriously.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:01:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:



Look man, what is the title of this thread?  I'll read it for you.. "HOW DESANTIS BLEW IT".  I commented on that.  

You fuckers are so obsessed with Trump you don't even know what the topic at hand is.  It's fucking annoying and it really does speak to what kind of people Desantis IS connecting with.  

He is not connecting with Republican voters and I would think that should be your concern.  But again, carry on making EVERYTHING about trump.
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


Are you saying that at least a plurality of voters are WWE fans? I'm afraid that you are probably correct.



Look man, what is the title of this thread?  I'll read it for you.. "HOW DESANTIS BLEW IT".  I commented on that.  

You fuckers are so obsessed with Trump you don't even know what the topic at hand is.  It's fucking annoying and it really does speak to what kind of people Desantis IS connecting with.  

He is not connecting with Republican voters and I would think that should be your concern.  But again, carry on making EVERYTHING about trump.

Proof?
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:02:40 AM EST
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I’m still trying to figure out how members here are supporting a candidate that voices support for banning the firearm this site is named after?

This is irrefutable.
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It's fucking unbelievable, isn't it?
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:05:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Veccio:
They are gullible morons, that's why.

They will post every day simping for an 80 year old anti-gun big government 8 trillion dollar deficit in 4 years NYC RINO like a bunch of buffoons, and then will bitch and complain when don either loses the general or fails miserably doing anything--just like his last term. The MFer even gave Fauci a medal and has stated repeatedly how great a job he thinks they did with covid, lockdowns and all.

If Don is the candidate the GOP puts up then we deserve to lose. There are candidates running that don't have the baggage, are actually conservative with a proven record, actually enact their stated agenda, and most importantly actually get elected. This cycle, the 2022 cycle, and 2020 has been the largest amount of abject stupidity by a group I've ever seen.
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Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:07:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:

So if you boys want to keep arguing about Trump vs DeSantis, it won't matter which one of them wins the primary at this point. You can hope in one hand and shit in the other. The Republican strategy is still to snatch defeat from the hands of victory.
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The argument isn't about the primary at this point.  DeSantis/Haley/Scott/etc supporters are all reconciled that Trump is going to win the primary.   The issue being debated is why at least half the GOP is supporting an ineffective liberal populist on the Republican ticket, when there are MULTIPLE proven fiscal and social conservative leaders to choose from.  So it's not "Republican Strategy".  If it were up to the GOP, Trump would be convicted of insurrection and and sitting in Club Fewd with the 14th Amendment hung around his neck while actual Republicans competed in the primary.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:09:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

Which is why he turned America's biggest purple swing state deep red inside of a single election cycle.

This stuff is why people don't take Trump supporters seriously.
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You just don't get it, or you just want to defer the point.

Mittens connected with voters enough to be the Republican nominee.  Yes I voted for him because, well, OBAMA was the other option.

I'm not out here pulling for Trump.  In fact I have stated that I will vote for Desantis if he is the nominee.  He won't be though because he doesn't even have the basic likability that even Mittens seemed to have.

I really hate you people here who just want to fight instead of discussing the real problem.  The GOP does not have any candidate that is likable enough to win the general election.

That's the truth but go ahead Ryan, make some stupid fucking quip about how I am a retard or something and stare smugly at your screen for your next chance to write something here that makes you seem like a petulant fucking prick.  It is all.  so.  tiresome.
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Originally Posted By jwr6:


The argument isn't about the primary at this point.  DeSantis/Haley/Scott/etc supporters are all reconciled that Trump is going to win the primary.   The issue being debated is why at least half the GOP is supporting an ineffective liberal populist on the Republican ticket, when there are MULTIPLE proven fiscal and social conservative leaders to choose from.  So it's not "Republican Strategy".  If it were up to the GOP, Trump would be convicted of insurrection and and sitting in Club Fewd with the 14th Amendment hung around his neck while actual Republicans competed in the primary.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:

So if you boys want to keep arguing about Trump vs DeSantis, it won't matter which one of them wins the primary at this point. You can hope in one hand and shit in the other. The Republican strategy is still to snatch defeat from the hands of victory.


The argument isn't about the primary at this point.  DeSantis/Haley/Scott/etc supporters are all reconciled that Trump is going to win the primary.   The issue being debated is why at least half the GOP is supporting an ineffective liberal populist on the Republican ticket, when there are MULTIPLE proven fiscal and social conservative leaders to choose from.  So it's not "Republican Strategy".  If it were up to the GOP, Trump would be convicted of insurrection and and sitting in Club Fewd with the 14th Amendment hung around his neck while actual Republicans competed in the primary.


Was Reagan a liberal or conservative running on the Republican ticket?
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:17:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:


"Deer in the headlights" seems to be a common theme with him, recently. He'd been getting destroyed online on podcasts and memes for weeks over his "special boots" when he appeared on somebody's show and the host asked him about the them. He didn't know what they were talking about so they explained it to him. He claimed that was the first he had heard about it.

His team also put out a fake, AI-generated anti-Trump video and presented it as real footage. He claimed he didn't know anything about that, too.

So he's either oblivious to some pretty major things going on around him, or he's lying.

I really liked him, to start. I'm no longer impressed. At all.
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That's what killed it for me. I thought perhaps he was the slightly more polished version of Trump that might actually work but they ran that. People have a hard enough time telling what is real with all the propaganda now. Manufacturing AI garbage isn't going to help any and I won't support anyone who uses it.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:20:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:


You just don't get it, or you just want to defer the point.

Mittens connected with voters enough to be the Republican nominee.  Yes I voted for him because, well, OBAMA was the other option.

I'm not out here pulling for Trump.  In fact I have stated that I will vote for Desantis if he is the nominee.  He won't be though because he doesn't even have the basic likability that even Mittens seemed to have.

I really hate you people here who just want to fight instead of discussing the real problem.  The GOP does not have any candidate that is likable enough to win the general election.

That's the truth but go ahead Ryan, make some stupid fucking quip about how I am a retard or something and stare smugly at your screen for your next chance to write something here that makes you seem like a petulant fucking prick.  It is all.  so.  tiresome.
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

Which is why he turned America's biggest purple swing state deep red inside of a single election cycle.

This stuff is why people don't take Trump supporters seriously.


You just don't get it, or you just want to defer the point.

Mittens connected with voters enough to be the Republican nominee.  Yes I voted for him because, well, OBAMA was the other option.

I'm not out here pulling for Trump.  In fact I have stated that I will vote for Desantis if he is the nominee.  He won't be though because he doesn't even have the basic likability that even Mittens seemed to have.

I really hate you people here who just want to fight instead of discussing the real problem.  The GOP does not have any candidate that is likable enough to win the general election.

That's the truth but go ahead Ryan, make some stupid fucking quip about how I am a retard or something and stare smugly at your screen for your next chance to write something here that makes you seem like a petulant fucking prick.  It is all.  so.  tiresome.

That's nice.

By your logic, and using the now all hallowed polls, we should apparently all be rallying behind Nikki Haley: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:30:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

That's nice.

By your logic, and using the now all hallowed polls, we should apparently all be rallying behind Nikki Haley: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html
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Originally Posted By fender_fella:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

Which is why he turned America's biggest purple swing state deep red inside of a single election cycle.

This stuff is why people don't take Trump supporters seriously.


You just don't get it, or you just want to defer the point.

Mittens connected with voters enough to be the Republican nominee.  Yes I voted for him because, well, OBAMA was the other option.

I'm not out here pulling for Trump.  In fact I have stated that I will vote for Desantis if he is the nominee.  He won't be though because he doesn't even have the basic likability that even Mittens seemed to have.

I really hate you people here who just want to fight instead of discussing the real problem.  The GOP does not have any candidate that is likable enough to win the general election.

That's the truth but go ahead Ryan, make some stupid fucking quip about how I am a retard or something and stare smugly at your screen for your next chance to write something here that makes you seem like a petulant fucking prick.  It is all.  so.  tiresome.

That's nice.

By your logic, and using the now all hallowed polls, we should apparently all be rallying behind Nikki Haley: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html


How does his logic state that?
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:34:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

That's nice.

By your logic, and using the now all hallowed polls, we should apparently all be rallying behind Nikki Haley: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html
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What is this?  Whataboutism or something?  Who the fuck is talking about Nikki Haley??

Ryan, there is an intangible part about being a human being, and I'm starting to see that you have no concept of it.  It's called "connecting with other human beings."  I can see why you've never experienced it but it's very powerful.  Typically a successful politician has it down to an art.  Desantis doesn't have it.  My VERY successful governor Abbott of Texas also doesn't have it.  Great governor, very conservative, extremely unelectable on a national level.  Ted Cruz was kind of the same way too.
I can also see why big D is your guy though.  Birds of a feather and all.
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