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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:34:16 AM EDT
They wasted no time on this one. I'm sure it will pass with bipartisan support.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr1%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=1

Summary:

Internet voter registration.
Automatic voter registration.
Same day voter registration.
Voting by mail
Allowing sworn written statements as ID for voter application
Ballot drop boxes
Curbside voting
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:39:09 AM EDT
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So both parties can register anyone now and have anyone vote any where they want as many times as they want?

Next Presidential election: 500 million votes cast!  
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:40:10 AM EDT
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What?

No option for: "Honk once for X, honk twice for Z" at intersections?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:41:14 AM EDT
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They already weren't...
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:41:16 AM EDT
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Eleventy Billion Voters!!!
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:41:51 AM EDT
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There will probably be an amendment for internet voting before it passes.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:42:42 AM EDT
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Except good regular people don’t want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:47:47 AM EDT
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Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.
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So both parties can register anyone now and have anyone vote any where they want as many times as they want?

Next Presidential election: 500 million votes cast!  


Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.

It's ok though because they thought of that should any ineligible persons be "accidentally" registered.

(a) Protections For Errors In Registration.An individual shall not be prosecuted under any Federal or State law, adversely affected in any civil adjudication concerning immigration status or naturalization, or subject to an allegation in any legal proceeding that the individual is not a citizen of the United States on any of the following grounds:
(1) The individual notified an election office of the individual's automatic registration to vote under this part.
(2) The individual is not eligible to vote in elections for Federal office but was automatically registered to vote under this part.
(3) The individual was automatically registered to vote under this part at an incorrect address.
(4) The individual declined the opportunity to register to vote or did not make an affirmation of citizenship, including through automatic registration, under this part.

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It's ok though because they thought of that should any ineligible persons be "accidentally" registered.


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So both parties can register anyone now and have anyone vote any where they want as many times as they want?

Next Presidential election: 500 million votes cast!  


Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.

It's ok though because they thought of that should any ineligible persons be "accidentally" registered.

(a) Protections For Errors In Registration.An individual shall not be prosecuted under any Federal or State law, adversely affected in any civil adjudication concerning immigration status or naturalization, or subject to an allegation in any legal proceeding that the individual is not a citizen of the United States on any of the following grounds:
(1) The individual notified an election office of the individual's automatic registration to vote under this part.
(2) The individual is not eligible to vote in elections for Federal office but was automatically registered to vote under this part.
(3) The individual was automatically registered to vote under this part at an incorrect address.
(4) The individual declined the opportunity to register to vote or did not make an affirmation of citizenship, including through automatic registration, under this part.



JFC

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It also criminalizes publicly questioning the legitimacy of an election.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:53:44 AM EDT
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I was hoping I could have a few, or three weeks to vote...  That didn't get in?!
What if I can't stop shitting election day? What if I don't have a mailbox, or have a car to drive to a drop box cause I pay my bills with my maxed out card on my expensive phone! Those bastards!
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420 million Democrat votes...
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I wouldn't be shocked if it were "text your vote to......."
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Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.
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So both parties can register anyone now and have anyone vote any where they want as many times as they want?

Next Presidential election: 500 million votes cast!  


Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.
As opposed to what they're going to do to us anyway?
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Might as well let the rest of the damned planet vote too.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:02:14 AM EDT
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Why not just make it a fucking facebook app then.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:03:30 AM EDT
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India cryptographic smart cards. Each citizen's vote is digitally signed as being provably from them and them only.

They shit in the streets...and have the most secure election system on the planet.
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So both parties can register anyone now and have anyone vote any where they want as many times as they want?

Next Presidential election: 500 million votes cast!  


Except good regular people don't want to risk prison time for fraudulent voting.

If we start doing it you can bet your ass that commissions and task forces will be formed and violators will have their lives destroyed.


They cheat, lie, harvest ballots, make up numbers during the count and nobody gives a fuck or will ever do anything about it.

Voting is done. It has failed.

It's ok though because they thought of that should any ineligible persons be "accidentally" registered.

(a) Protections For Errors In Registration.An individual shall not be prosecuted under any Federal or State law, adversely affected in any civil adjudication concerning immigration status or naturalization, or subject to an allegation in any legal proceeding that the individual is not a citizen of the United States on any of the following grounds:
(1) The individual notified an election office of the individual's automatic registration to vote under this part.
(2) The individual is not eligible to vote in elections for Federal office but was automatically registered to vote under this part.
(3) The individual was automatically registered to vote under this part at an incorrect address.
(4) The individual declined the opportunity to register to vote or did not make an affirmation of citizenship, including through automatic registration, under this part.



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That also seems to allow illegals to vote.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:05:54 AM EDT
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The easiest way to vote is to just have the candidate do it for you.

everything short of that is voter suppression.
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It also criminalizes publicly questioning the legitimacy of an election.


Are you basing that off of the language saying within 60 days of an election knowingly making a false statement about the election is to be a crime?
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Are you basing that off of the language saying within 60 days of an election knowingly making a false statement about the election is to be a crime?
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It also criminalizes publicly questioning the legitimacy of an election.


Are you basing that off of the language saying within 60 days of an election knowingly making a false statement about the election is to be a crime?

Which section was that in?
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Are you basing that off of the language saying within 60 days of an election knowingly making a false statement about the election is to be a crime?
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It also criminalizes publicly questioning the legitimacy of an election.


Are you basing that off of the language saying within 60 days of an election knowingly making a false statement about the election is to be a crime?

Who defines what true and false?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:42:17 AM EDT
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And here it is:

Subtitle C—Findings Relating To District Of Columbia Statehood

SEC. 2201. FINDINGS RELATING TO DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA STATEHOOD.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The 705,000 District of Columbia residents deserve voting representation in Congress and local self-government, which only statehood can provide.

(2) The United States is the only democratic country that denies both voting representation in the national legislature and local self-government to the residents of its Nation’s capital.

(3) There are no constitutional, historical, fiscal, or economic reasons why the Americans who live in the District of Columbia should not be granted statehood.

(4) Since the founding of the United States, the residents of the District of Columbia have always carried all of the obligations of citizenship, including serving in all of the Nation’s wars and paying Federal taxes, but have been denied voting representation in Congress and freedom from congressional interference in purely local matters.

(5) The District of Columbia pays more Federal taxes per capita than any State and more Federal taxes than 22 States.

(6) The District of Columbia has a larger population than 2 States (Wyoming and Vermont), and 6 States have a population under one million.

(7) The District of Columbia has a larger budget than 12 States.

(8) The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the authority to admit new States (clause 1, section 3, article IV) and reduce the size of the seat of the Government of the United States (clause 17, section 8, article I). All 37 new States have been admitted by an Act of Congress, and Congress has previously reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States.

(9) On June 26, 2020, by a vote of 232–180, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 51, the Washington, D.C. Admission Act, which would have admitted the State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth from the residential portions of the District of Columbia and reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States to the United States Capitol, the White House, the United States Supreme Court, the National Mall, and the principal Federal monuments and buildings.
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I thought citizens in D.C. could already vote for President? Is that not the case?
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Keep this shit in mind when you get scolded about your "fantasies" and how you need to vote Republican.  Those R fuckers KNOW this shit is coming and did nothing about it when they could.


It might not pass as is, but they will eventually get what they want.  Only a matter of time and they have plenty.
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I thought citizens in D.C. could already vote for President? Is that not the case?
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Subtitle C—Findings Relating To District Of Columbia Statehood

SEC. 2201. FINDINGS RELATING TO DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA STATEHOOD.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The 705,000 District of Columbia residents deserve voting representation in Congress and local self-government, which only statehood can provide.

(2) The United States is the only democratic country that denies both voting representation in the national legislature and local self-government to the residents of its Nation’s capital.

(3) There are no constitutional, historical, fiscal, or economic reasons why the Americans who live in the District of Columbia should not be granted statehood.

(4) Since the founding of the United States, the residents of the District of Columbia have always carried all of the obligations of citizenship, including serving in all of the Nation’s wars and paying Federal taxes, but have been denied voting representation in Congress and freedom from congressional interference in purely local matters.

(5) The District of Columbia pays more Federal taxes per capita than any State and more Federal taxes than 22 States.

(6) The District of Columbia has a larger population than 2 States (Wyoming and Vermont), and 6 States have a population under one million.

(7) The District of Columbia has a larger budget than 12 States.

(8) The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the authority to admit new States (clause 1, section 3, article IV) and reduce the size of the seat of the Government of the United States (clause 17, section 8, article I). All 37 new States have been admitted by an Act of Congress, and Congress has previously reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States.

(9) On June 26, 2020, by a vote of 232–180, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 51, the Washington, D.C. Admission Act, which would have admitted the State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth from the residential portions of the District of Columbia and reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States to the United States Capitol, the White House, the United States Supreme Court, the National Mall, and the principal Federal monuments and buildings.


I thought citizens in D.C. could already vote for President? Is that not the case?

They can.  They get 3 electors.  They do not, however, get congress critters that can actually vote.
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They can.  They get 3 electors.  They do not, however, get congress critters that can actually vote.
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Subtitle C—Findings Relating To District Of Columbia Statehood

SEC. 2201. FINDINGS RELATING TO DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA STATEHOOD.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The 705,000 District of Columbia residents deserve voting representation in Congress and local self-government, which only statehood can provide.

(2) The United States is the only democratic country that denies both voting representation in the national legislature and local self-government to the residents of its Nation’s capital.

(3) There are no constitutional, historical, fiscal, or economic reasons why the Americans who live in the District of Columbia should not be granted statehood.

(4) Since the founding of the United States, the residents of the District of Columbia have always carried all of the obligations of citizenship, including serving in all of the Nation’s wars and paying Federal taxes, but have been denied voting representation in Congress and freedom from congressional interference in purely local matters.

(5) The District of Columbia pays more Federal taxes per capita than any State and more Federal taxes than 22 States.

(6) The District of Columbia has a larger population than 2 States (Wyoming and Vermont), and 6 States have a population under one million.

(7) The District of Columbia has a larger budget than 12 States.

(8) The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the authority to admit new States (clause 1, section 3, article IV) and reduce the size of the seat of the Government of the United States (clause 17, section 8, article I). All 37 new States have been admitted by an Act of Congress, and Congress has previously reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States.

(9) On June 26, 2020, by a vote of 232–180, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 51, the Washington, D.C. Admission Act, which would have admitted the State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth from the residential portions of the District of Columbia and reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States to the United States Capitol, the White House, the United States Supreme Court, the National Mall, and the principal Federal monuments and buildings.


I thought citizens in D.C. could already vote for President? Is that not the case?

They can.  They get 3 electors.  They do not, however, get congress critters that can actually vote.

Well fuck it. Maybe DC should become ARFlandia. Let's get 50-100k to move there and vote in Cruz/Boebert on steroids. Lots of you have a crush on Virginia, let's step it up!
DC Senators constantly pushing pro-gun bills might get the message across...
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Well fuck it. Maybe DC should become ARFlandia. Let's get 50-100k to move there and vote in Cruz/Boebert on steroids. Lots of you have a crush on Virginia, let's step it up!
DC Senators constantly pushing pro-gun bills might get the message across...
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Subtitle C—Findings Relating To District Of Columbia Statehood

SEC. 2201. FINDINGS RELATING TO DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA STATEHOOD.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The 705,000 District of Columbia residents deserve voting representation in Congress and local self-government, which only statehood can provide.

(2) The United States is the only democratic country that denies both voting representation in the national legislature and local self-government to the residents of its Nation’s capital.

(3) There are no constitutional, historical, fiscal, or economic reasons why the Americans who live in the District of Columbia should not be granted statehood.

(4) Since the founding of the United States, the residents of the District of Columbia have always carried all of the obligations of citizenship, including serving in all of the Nation’s wars and paying Federal taxes, but have been denied voting representation in Congress and freedom from congressional interference in purely local matters.

(5) The District of Columbia pays more Federal taxes per capita than any State and more Federal taxes than 22 States.

(6) The District of Columbia has a larger population than 2 States (Wyoming and Vermont), and 6 States have a population under one million.

(7) The District of Columbia has a larger budget than 12 States.

(8) The Constitution of the United States gives Congress the authority to admit new States (clause 1, section 3, article IV) and reduce the size of the seat of the Government of the United States (clause 17, section 8, article I). All 37 new States have been admitted by an Act of Congress, and Congress has previously reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States.

(9) On June 26, 2020, by a vote of 232–180, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 51, the Washington, D.C. Admission Act, which would have admitted the State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth from the residential portions of the District of Columbia and reduced the size of the seat of the Government of the United States to the United States Capitol, the White House, the United States Supreme Court, the National Mall, and the principal Federal monuments and buildings.


I thought citizens in D.C. could already vote for President? Is that not the case?

They can.  They get 3 electors.  They do not, however, get congress critters that can actually vote.

Well fuck it. Maybe DC should become ARFlandia. Let's get 50-100k to move there and vote in Cruz/Boebert on steroids. Lots of you have a crush on Virginia, let's step it up!
DC Senators constantly pushing pro-gun bills might get the message across...



100k will only move the needle a little.  Biden beat Trump there by almost 300k votes.  He got 93%.
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(a) Protections For Errors In Registration.An individual shall not be prosecuted under any Federal or State law, adversely affected in any civil adjudication concerning immigration status or naturalization, or subject to an allegation in any legal proceeding that the individual is not a citizen of the United States on any of the following grounds:



That text does not appear anywhere in the linked document.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:19:56 AM EDT
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Here's a good one though, all the way at the end of the document, they are going to force Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates to submit their tax returns for the previous 10 years to the Chairman of the Federal Election Commission:

TITLE X—PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL TAX TRANSPARENCY
(1) IN GENERAL.—

(A) CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.—Not later than the date that is 15 days after the date on which an individual becomes a covered candidate, the individual shall submit to the Federal Election Commission a copy of the individual’s income tax returns for the 10 most recent taxable years for which a return has been filed with the Internal Revenue Service.

(B) PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.—With respect to an individual who is the President or Vice President, not later than the due date for the return of tax for each taxable year, such individual shall submit to the Federal Election Commission a copy of the individual’s income tax returns for the taxable year and for the 9 preceding taxable years.

(C) TRANSITION RULE FOR SITTING PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS.—Not later than the date that is 30 days after the date of enactment of this section, an individual who is the President or Vice President on such date of enactment shall submit to the Federal Election Commission a copy of the income tax returns for the 10 most recent taxable years for which a return has been filed with the Internal Revenue Service.

(2) FAILURE TO DISCLOSE.—If any requirement under paragraph (1) to submit an income tax return is not met, the chairman of the Federal Election Commission shall submit to the Secretary a written request that the Secretary provide the Federal Election Commission with the income tax return.

(3) PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.—The chairman of the Federal Election Commission shall make publicly available each income tax return submitted under paragraph (1) in the same manner as a return provided under section 6103(l)(23) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (as added by this section).

(4) TREATMENT AS A REPORT UNDER THE FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN ACT OF 1971.—For purposes of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, any income tax return submitted under paragraph (1) or provided under section 6103(l)(23) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (as added by this section) shall, after redaction under paragraph (3) or subparagraph (B)(ii) of such section, be treated as a report filed under the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971.

(c) Disclosure Of Returns Of Presidents And Vice Presidents And Certain Candidates For President And Vice President.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Section 6103(l) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:


“(23) DISCLOSURE OF RETURN INFORMATION OF PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS AND CERTAIN CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.—

“(A) IN GENERAL.—Upon written request by the chairman of the Federal Election Commission under section 10001(b)(2) of the For the People Act of 2021, not later than the date that is 15 days after the date of such request, the Secretary shall provide copies of any return which is so requested to officers and employees of the Federal Election Commission whose official duties include disclosure or redaction of such return under this paragraph.

“(B) DISCLOSURE TO THE PUBLIC.—

“(i) IN GENERAL.—The chairman of the Federal Election Commission shall make publicly available any return which is provided under subparagraph (A).

“(ii) REDACTION OF CERTAIN INFORMATION.—Before making publicly available under clause (i) any return, the chairman of the Federal Election Commission shall redact such information as the Federal Election Commission and the Secretary jointly determine is necessary for protecting against identity theft, such as social security numbers.”.
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WTF?  States have to accept registrations from people who aren't even allowed to vote yet?  Fortunately, it's not trying to force them to allow minors to vote, as the next paragraph says as much.  

Section 1094

(1)  IN  GENERAL.—A  State  may  not  refuse  to  accept  or  process  an  individual’s  application  to  register  to  vote  in  elections  for  Federal  office  on  the  grounds  that  the  individual  is  under  18  years  of  age  at  the  time  the  individual  submits  the  application,  so  long  as  the  individual  is  at  least  16  years  of  age  at  such time.
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ETA:  Section 1401 restores federal voting rights to felons who are not currently incarcerated.
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I can kind of see that one. If someone turns 18 the day or week before an election, then they are able to register ahead of time so they can vote in that election for which they would be eligible. I think the language needs to be more specific and allowing teens to register at 16 is too much though. It should be like up to 90 days before the election, or whenever the registration cut off is.

I.e. if you turn 18 on election day, you should still be able to register to vote beforehand, by whenever they registration cut off date is.
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That text does not appear anywhere in the linked document.

I copied and pasted it straight from the linked bill.
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I can kind of see that one. If someone turns 18 the day or week before an election, then they are able to register ahead of time so they can vote in that election for which they would be eligible. I think the language needs to be more specific and allowing teens to register at 16 is too much though. It should be like up to 90 days before the election, or whenever the registration cut off is.

I.e. if you turn 18 on election day, you should still be able to register to vote beforehand, by whenever they registration cut off date is.
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WTF?  States have to accept registrations from people who aren't even allowed to vote yet?  Fortunately, it's not trying to force them to allow minors to vote, as the next paragraph says as much.  


I can kind of see that one. If someone turns 18 the day or week before an election, then they are able to register ahead of time so they can vote in that election for which they would be eligible. I think the language needs to be more specific and allowing teens to register at 16 is too much though. It should be like up to 90 days before the election, or whenever the registration cut off is.

I.e. if you turn 18 on election day, you should still be able to register to vote beforehand, by whenever they registration cut off date is.

I get the being 18 on election day bit.  There's already provisions in a lot of states for such instances.  Being able to submit at 16 is ridiculous and makes me think they intend to do voter registration drives at high schools.  

Oh wait!  That's in there too.  Section 1091 provides funds so that high schools can help seniors learn how to register to vote, for a one year pilot program that will undoubtedly be continued.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:35:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:36:36 AM EDT
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I copied and pasted it straight from the linked bill.
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Alright, never mind I found it.

PART 2—AUTOMATIC VOTER REGISTRATION

SEC. 1015. VOTER PROTECTION AND SECURITY IN AUTOMATIC REGISTRATION.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:37:56 AM EDT
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I figure lots of bills go nowhere if not sponsored by one of the cool kids in Congress.
Will wait till I hear more.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:39:52 AM EDT
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Wow.  This is just the biggest dim wishlist ever isn't it?  Section 5102 is public funding of candidates.  They'll choose a few states, wherein voters get a $25 voucher to contribute to whoever's campaign they want, in increments of $5.

Oh look.  Section 2411 establishes federal rules on redistricting.  Have to create a commission of 6, who then choose 9 additional members for the panel.  This 15 member panel will then have to "ensure  that  the  membership  is  representative  of  the  demographic  groups  (including  racial,  ethnic,  economic,  and  gender)  and  geographic  regions  of  the  State,  and  provides  racial,  ethnic,  and  language   minorities   protected   under   the   Voting  Rights  Act  of  1965"

This whole bill is one big mess.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:40:31 AM EDT
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I get the being 18 on election day bit.  There's already provisions in a lot of states for such instances.  Being able to submit at 16 is ridiculous and makes me think they intend to do voter registration drives at high schools.  

Oh wait!  That's in there too.  Section 1091 provides funds so that high schools can help seniors learn how to register to vote, for a one year pilot program that will undoubtedly be continued.
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I mean fuck, if you get to your senior year of high school and you didn't learn how to register to vote in your 8th grade civics class, I don't think you should be allowed to graduate high school.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:44:25 AM EDT
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Mandatory voter registration at 16
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:44:43 AM EDT
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I just thought of a great poison pill to add to this...

Since many of the sections in this bill refer to different agencies as being contributing Federal agencies for the automatic voter registration; someone should add The Selective Service System to that list, that way as soon as every male turns 18 they get their selective service card AND their voter registration card automatically.

Then we'll have a lot more men that are automatically registered.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:49:39 AM EDT
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It also criminalizes publicly questioning the legitimacy of an election.
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If that holds up in court you can pretty much stick a fork in the republic.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:49:54 AM EDT
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They wasted no time on this one. I'm sure it will pass with bipartisan support.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr1%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=1

Summary:

Internet voter registration.
Automatic voter registration.
Same day voter registration.
Voting by mail
Allowing sworn written statements as ID for voter application
Ballot drop boxes
Curbside voting
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Okay, no problem.

RNC orders up a couple hundred million (or billion) pre-filled ballots to place in convenient ballot drop boxes.

Get with the fucking program.

What's the question?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:00:59 AM EDT
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So what will they do when the pendulum swings back the other way?
it always does.

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So what will they do when the pendulum swings back the other way?
it always does.

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That is the point of this stuff. They are rigging it so it can't go back, even if the majority of people wanted it.

Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:05:45 AM EDT
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I figure lots of bills go nowhere if not sponsored by one of the cool kids in Congress.
Will wait till I hear more.
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Pelosi signed on. I imagine the squad will be all over it soon.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:08:17 AM EDT
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Okay, no problem.

RNC orders up a couple hundred million (or billion) pre-filled ballots to place in convenient ballot drop boxes.

Get with the fucking program.

What's the question?
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They wasted no time on this one. I'm sure it will pass with bipartisan support.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr1%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=1

Summary:

Internet voter registration.
Automatic voter registration.
Same day voter registration.
Voting by mail
Allowing sworn written statements as ID for voter application
Ballot drop boxes
Curbside voting


Okay, no problem.

RNC orders up a couple hundred million (or billion) pre-filled ballots to place in convenient ballot drop boxes.

Get with the fucking program.

What's the question?

"But we have tegrity"

In all seriousness you and I both know the GOP ain't gonna do that and even if they did elections would just become a total fucking circus with whoever controls the military at that time declaring themselves the winner.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:08:33 AM EDT
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They've proven there's no need to generate bogus ballots when you can just alter the count via algorithms.

If voting mattered they wouldn't let us do it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:09:20 AM EDT
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So what will they do when the pendulum swings back the other way?
it always does.

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I think you may have missed the point of this bill.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:18:40 AM EDT
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So what will they do when the pendulum swings back the other way?
it always does.

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You’ve posted the single most naive statement I’ve ever read.  Truly.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:27:50 AM EDT
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If this becomes law, it alone will be more egregious than all of King George’s doing combined.
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