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Posted: 9/9/2021 7:12:17 PM EDT
So I just got home and my adorable, lifelong birby friend suddenly appears to have some kind of infection. His eyes look abnormal and he's become unusually aggressive. I'm pretty sure he hasn't been exposed to any unfamiliar animals or foods, and he was normal thus morning but now all he wants to do is stare at me as if pleading for help.

ETA: He also won't eat anything but peanut butter filled pretzels suddenly.

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Link Posted: 9/9/2021 7:20:40 PM EDT
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Have you tried horse paste?

I heard it works on birbs.
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Does it work on frogs?
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Link Posted: 9/9/2021 7:43:53 PM EDT
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My high school crush does some bird care stuff, but she doesn't live in Colorado.

It looks like some kind of internal cranial pressure thing.  Is birby in any kind of distress?  Can he fly (if he could fly before)?

Do you have any pictures of him from before, cause that's a strange looking birb.
Link Posted: 9/9/2021 8:00:49 PM EDT
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My high school crush does some bird care stuff, but she doesn't live in Colorado.

It looks like some kind of internal cranial pressure thing.  Is birby in any kind of distress?  Can he fly (if he could fly before)?

Do you have any pictures of him from before, cause that's a strange looking birb.
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He looks like he's losing color.  Is this normal? This doesn't seem normal.

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He looks like he's losing color.  Is this normal? This doesn't seem normal.

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Poor Birb.
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He looks like he's losing color.  Is this normal? This doesn't seem normal.

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If he's losing color, that probably means he's molting.  Are the less colorful feathers softer, or won't he let you handle him to find out?

Has he molted a lot from his head, and the eyes seem out of proportion only because of the lack of feathers?
Link Posted: 9/9/2021 8:28:49 PM EDT
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Did he accidentally get into some DMT?
Link Posted: 9/9/2021 8:30:57 PM EDT
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Astra Zeneca may be able to help.

Do you have any before pictures to help us gauge the eye gauge?

Poor lil birb.
Link Posted: 9/9/2021 9:08:09 PM EDT
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If he's molting, there should be a lot of feathers around.  I'm pretty sure birbs don't eat their molted feathers (I've heard reptiles sometimes eat their shed skins, but we're not talking about those).

Are there a lot of feathers?  If not, we need to look at something else.
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I notice that the newspaper is in Spanish, but the potoo is also found all over Brazil.  Perhaps a paper in Portuguese would help?
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.
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lol
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.
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No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.
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Astra Zeneca may be able to help.

Do you have any before pictures to help us gauge the eye gauge?

Poor lil birb.
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Yes here's one of him normally.

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No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.

Link Posted: 9/9/2021 11:21:45 PM EDT
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Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.

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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

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Link Posted: 9/9/2021 11:24:39 PM EDT
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Birb is sick?
Load up the parlor stove with nut coal.

Birbs like warm.
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Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).
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Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

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Dude don't listen to Brisk
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Link Posted: 9/9/2021 11:26:31 PM EDT
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I notice that the newspaper is in Spanish, but the potoo is also found all over Brazil.  Perhaps a paper in Portuguese would help?
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He looks like he's losing color.  Is this normal? This doesn't seem normal.


I notice that the newspaper is in Spanish, but the potoo is also found all over Brazil.  Perhaps a paper in Portuguese would help?

That's not a potoo.

It's a frogmouth birb.
Link Posted: 9/9/2021 11:27:17 PM EDT
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His coloration might not change back to iridescent black right away.  He'll have to molt the brown affected feathers, and that might take a few weeks.
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If he starts doing this....



Keep your distance.
He may be rabid.
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He may be rabid.
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Stop It
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It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).


Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

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Guys, I'm suddenly not sure this is even my birb. My sweet, gentle beautiful baby birb. Something seems really wrong here.
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No, it's not rabies. Rabies would make him shy away from water, and while that could cause short-term constipation, ultimately he'd get thinner, and he'd molt his feathers without replacing them.  Assuming he lived long enough, he'd look like a pot-bellied plucked chicken.

In the long run, the oil treatment will get him cleaned out and will establish OP at the top.ofvthe pecking order.
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No, it's not rabies. Rabies would make him shy away from water, and while that could cause short-term constipation, ultimately he'd get thinner, and he'd molt his feathers without replacing them.  Assuming he lived long enough, he'd look like a pot-bellied plucked chicken.

In the long run, the oil treatment will get him cleaned out and will establish OP at the top.ofvthe pecking order.
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If he starts doing this....

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Keep your distance.
He may be rabid.

No, it's not rabies. Rabies would make him shy away from water, and while that could cause short-term constipation, ultimately he'd get thinner, and he'd molt his feathers without replacing them.  Assuming he lived long enough, he'd look like a pot-bellied plucked chicken.

In the long run, the oil treatment will get him cleaned out and will establish OP at the top.ofvthe pecking order.


Do you think it might be related to birb flu?
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Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).


Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/potoo_jpg-2084779.JPG

Don't quit now!  The swelling is already going down!  Keep at it. He'll hate you for a few days, but you'll hate yourself even more if you don't go through with this.
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Don't mess with it!!!

It bites

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If he starts doing this....

https://i.imgur.com/O5sMamU.gif

Keep your distance.
He may be rabid.

No, it's not rabies. Rabies would make him shy away from water, and while that could cause short-term constipation, ultimately he'd get thinner, and he'd molt his feathers without replacing them.  Assuming he lived long enough, he'd look like a pot-bellied plucked chicken.

In the long run, the oil treatment will get him cleaned out and will establish OP at the top.ofvthe pecking order.


Do you think it might be related to birb flu?

I don't think so. Usually a flu tends to loosen things up inside, and if he had a fever, he'd molt a lot more and you'd likely see skin.
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That's what the gloves are for.  And unlike puppies, this little guy doesn't have teeth.

If the treatment works, there will be a mess to clean up, though.
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Don't quit now!  The swelling is already going down!  Keep at it. He'll hate you for a few days, but you'll hate yourself even more if you don't go through with this.
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).


Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/potoo_jpg-2084779.JPG

Don't quit now!  The swelling is already going down!  Keep at it. He'll hate you for a few days, but you'll hate yourself even more if you don't go through with this.

I gotta get some sleep.  One more thing to try as an adjunct to the oil.

Crush just a little Alka-Seltzer and get him to swallow it.  Just a little bit, about 1/4 teaspoon.  This will increase the pressure (which he won't like much) and help move things from the top as you continue working on easing the passage down.
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I gotta get some sleep.  One more thing to try as an adjunct to the oil.

Crush just a little Alka-Seltzer and get him to swallow it.  Just a little bit, about 1/4 teaspoon.  This will increase the pressure (which he won't like much) and help move things from the top as you continue working on easing the passage down.
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I gotta get some sleep.  One more thing to try as an adjunct to the oil.

Crush just a little Alka-Seltzer and get him to swallow it.  Just a little bit, about 1/4 teaspoon.  This will increase the pressure (which he won't like much) and help move things from the top as you continue working on easing the passage down.
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).


Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/potoo_jpg-2084779.JPG

Don't quit now!  The swelling is already going down!  Keep at it. He'll hate you for a few days, but you'll hate yourself even more if you don't go through with this.

I gotta get some sleep.  One more thing to try as an adjunct to the oil.

Crush just a little Alka-Seltzer and get him to swallow it.  Just a little bit, about 1/4 teaspoon.  This will increase the pressure (which he won't like much) and help move things from the top as you continue working on easing the passage down.


That didn't work either. Jesus this bird is really angry.  I'm afraid to go to bed now.

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That didn't work either. Jesus this bird is really angry.  I'm afraid to go to bed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/wqSkcyNZ_400x400_jpg-2084817.JPG
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I wonder if his craving for peanut butter is in response to the approach of winter...and being a birb from the southern hemisphere, his internal calendar has him anticipating summer.

That might explain the molting - his body is preparing for summer, even though he's fattening himself up for winter.

That would explain the confused look, and the physiologically unexpected weight gain might explain the protruding eyes.

Did the opposite happen this past spring?

I fear the little guy will just have to ride it out.  Maybe keeping some bright lights on in the evening would help, kind of like they do for seasonal affective disorder.


No this is the first time this has ever happened. I'm really worried guys! Now he's just staring at me intently and not moving an inch.

Hang on, I have another thought.

I think he's just constipated, or whatever the birb equivalent is (since their...exhaust port combines everything).

The grain and fat craving is his attempt to add some fiber and some lubrication.  The fact that things aren't moving inside explains:
The color change - he's turning more brown
The bulging eyes - bloated insides have nowhere to go but up
The aggressive attitude - imagine if you hadn't gone for a few days
The lack of movement - with everything jammed up, he's probably got intestinal cramps and probably hasn't been sleeping well, so he's too tired to move much and it hurts to move anyway

I'm not certain that an enema will help.  You might just pop him.

But if he's not looking better tomorrow, then it's what I would try, unless you have a good birb vet.

I imagine an ear syringe with warm (not hot) vegetable oil would be the best treatment.  Just a little at first.

Oh, I guarantee this will be a messy job.



Okay so I tried your suggestion and now hes doing this and I'm terrified to go near him!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/0_PAY-ghost-bird_jpg-2084772.JPG

It's progress.  You'd react the same if he did it to you.

But the animation is a good sign.  Try it again.  Wear heavy gloves.  And eye protection (against claws, beak , and his hinder parts).


Man I'm not sure about this. I got ready to give him anther treatment and he seems even more distressed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/potoo_jpg-2084779.JPG

Don't quit now!  The swelling is already going down!  Keep at it. He'll hate you for a few days, but you'll hate yourself even more if you don't go through with this.

I gotta get some sleep.  One more thing to try as an adjunct to the oil.

Crush just a little Alka-Seltzer and get him to swallow it.  Just a little bit, about 1/4 teaspoon.  This will increase the pressure (which he won't like much) and help move things from the top as you continue working on easing the passage down.


That didn't work either. Jesus this bird is really angry.  I'm afraid to go to bed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/wqSkcyNZ_400x400_jpg-2084817.JPG

That's not anger, that's a birb burp.

Well, some of it might be anger, because powdered Alka-Seltzer doesn't taste good at all (I know this through *bitter* experience).
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Any progress?  Hopefully you and Birby got a little sleep.
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That didn't work either. Jesus this bird is really angry.  I'm afraid to go to bed now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/wqSkcyNZ_400x400_jpg-2084817.JPG
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Have you tried horse paste?

I heard it works on birbs.


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Be careful I think we're in tech.

But still
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Just checking to see if your Birb improved overnight.
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I think you're right. I hadn't realized that.
Maybe we should petition to have it moved to GD?
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Sadly Mr. Cacklesworth didn't make it through the night.

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Astra Zeneca may be able to help.

Do you have any before pictures to help us gauge the eye gauge?

Poor lil birb.


Yes here's one of him normally.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/grackle-proof-cage-bird-feeder_jpg-2084761.JPG


Looks like a grackle there. That's quite a change. And please stop calling me "Normally".
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Just checking to see if your Birb improved overnight.

Sadly Mr. Cacklesworth didn't make it through the night.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/252849/mwo_x1000_ipad_2_snap-pad_750x1000_f8f8f-2085091.JPG


He's flown away on gossamer wings and Alka Seltzer.
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