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Posted: 9/15/2022 11:44:25 PM EDT
This guy 3D printed DIAS’s and brought them to a gun buyback as the department hadn’t issued a rule against it at that point. Walked away with a pile of gift cards. If you go to his twitter, he says two other guys did it with him and they cleaned them out for a total of almost $45,000.

Link Posted: 9/15/2022 11:46:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/15/2022 11:46:28 PM EDT
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Good for him.

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AFT plot to get dumb copycats.
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LOL cobra effect
Link Posted: 9/15/2022 11:48:35 PM EDT
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Stupid is supposed to hurt. Glad they're teaching the leftists.
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$21k will buy a new dog


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They stole the money from producers via taxation.
Leftists see this as a successful program.
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Damn straight.  Good for that guy.  I hope that wiped out "buyback" funds for the rest of the year.
Link Posted: 9/15/2022 11:54:09 PM EDT
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Had to look that one up...spot on, mate.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:05:37 AM EDT
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If you can figure out some pre-taxation ways to make leftist stupidity hurt leftists, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:09:34 AM EDT
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If you can figure out some pre-taxation ways to make leftist stupidity hurt leftists, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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If you can figure out some pre-taxation ways to make leftist stupidity hurt leftists, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
I've dedicated my life to the pursuit of anti-leftist leftist-based ordinance.
It's difficult to nail down because leftists are worthless, therefore every equation divides by zero.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:10:55 AM EDT
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That's not even a full roll of plastic it looks like.

1000-2000% return on investment.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:13:22 AM EDT
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I've got a solution. But it's not COC-compliant, however well it may be tacitly understood.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:13:53 AM EDT
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He can use that money to buy a full auto.  
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:14:53 AM EDT
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This makes no sense. If he showed up with auto sears then he was in possession of illegal machine guns that he had manufactured. He would have been arrested, not paid.  

What am I missing?
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:16:16 AM EDT
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Would those require $12K in stamps?
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One of my favorite things that ever happened to the Brits.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:19:16 AM EDT
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This makes no sense. If he showed up with auto sears then he was in possession of illegal machine guns that he had manufactured. He would have been arrested, not paid.  

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Gun buy backs only work because they offer amnesty along with money.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:21:10 AM EDT
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That it was a buyback.
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If they arrest the guy for it, then their “buybacks” will never work again.

It’s a decent sized risk, but it’s a win/win if you’re willing to go to court over it.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:29:22 AM EDT
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Hmmmm......what do they pay for Poptarts that look like a pistol?
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:38:21 AM EDT
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Buy backs put on by the local police may be no questions asked, but the feds may be interested in the fact that he made 60 auto sears. He even posted the evidence they can use against him.

Local LEO cannot give amnesty for a Federal offense.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:42:46 AM EDT
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IRS will love him tenderly.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:43:51 AM EDT
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Buy backs put on by the local police may be no questions asked, but the feds may be interested in the fact that he made 60 auto sears. He even posted the evidence they can use against him.

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Again - if he’s prosecuted federally for participating in a buyback, it destroys the credibility of buybacks.

It has nothing at all to do with who has the legal authority to promise amnesty. They either pay up, or they’re on record as refusing to “buy back machineguns”. They either keep their mouths shut and take it, or they’re not able to do buybacks anymore.

The mostly likely negative outcome here is that the feds will target the guy for some other, ostensibly unrelated “crime”.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:44:00 AM EDT
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Link to STL file?
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 12:44:40 AM EDT
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The fact that almost every word you read on the internet is false in at least one way. Cui bono?
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:11:41 AM EDT
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3d printing 60 DIAS to clean up at a gun buyback: Brilliant

Bragging about it on Twitter: Fucking stupid

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3d printing 60 DIAS to clean up at a gun buyback: Brilliant

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He just announced himself and fedbois will be paying him a visit.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:15:28 AM EDT
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$21k will buy a new dog


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$21k will buy a new dog




Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:20:05 AM EDT
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Good for him, but I wouldn’t be posting about it online.

He forgot the shut up part.

Feds will be talking to him soon
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:27:39 AM EDT
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He handed them in, do you really think he isn’t under scrutiny already?

I’m sure they have enough to get a warrant, honestly

Hey judge, this dude is manufacturing machine guns. Ok, go search his house, boys

Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:30:43 AM EDT
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This thread is useless without CAD files.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:31:45 AM EDT
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That's not even a full roll of plastic it looks like.

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Bad math.  2000x return, not 2000%.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:32:15 AM EDT
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Gun buy backs only work because they offer amnesty along with money.
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Gun buy backs only work because they offer amnesty along with money.

I could see the ATF taking interest though. It was dumb to make it public knowledge
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Isn't it anonymous?  Until he puts in on the internet of course.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:33:35 AM EDT
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This, he can buy a real one.  Hopefully tax free as well since buyback are supposed to be anonymous.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:35:35 AM EDT
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IRS is going to nail him for taxes too, broadcasting it like that.
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Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:38:39 AM EDT
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Bragging about it on social media is ill advised, but otherwise good show
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 9:42:35 AM EDT
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Can you really cheat a government that has all the printing presses.

Still good scam.

FATF
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There is actually a perfectly legal way for someone to do it. It isn't going to be cheap or easy, but the right person could do it legally.

You would need a Type 07 FFL / Class 2 SOT and a bunch of 3D printers.

When a licensed manufacturer builds a bunch of machine guns, they are required to notify BATFE after the fact via a Form 2. So, a licensed manufacturer with some 3D printers COULD, at least theoretically, print the DIAS', ensuring they inscribed a serial number into each one to BATFE standards, fill out the Form 2 while they are printing, fax the Form 2 to BATFE, go to the buyback, get paid, and then notify BATFE in writing that the machine guns were properly disposed of by turning them in to local law enforcement.

They'd almost certainly get a visit from their BATFE Industry Operations Inspector, but the FFL could just tell them they built them to sell to other FFL/SOT's as post-samples, but found that the quality of the printing wasn't really good enough for them to sell or, they could do it well in advance of the buyback and tell the IOI that they had misjudged the market, sales were non-existant, and they saw the buyback as a great way to recoup their investment, rather than holding onto inventory they couldn't sell.
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lol...
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The 3D printing guys are mad lads.  

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declare it as income, pay tax on it, still a win economically and zero issues

gee that was simple wasn't it
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 10:09:04 AM EDT
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Honestly, that would be wizard level stuff right there.



Link Posted: 9/16/2022 10:10:09 AM EDT
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Amnesty at the state level, he'll be getting a fed visit soon guaranteed.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 10:10:26 AM EDT
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declare it as income, pay tax on it, still a win economically and zero issues

gee that was simple wasn't it
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declare it as income, pay tax on it, still a win economically and zero issues

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Exactly. Even at the highest tax rate, it's just $7,770 in Federal taxes. That's still $13k in his pocket.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 10:15:20 AM EDT
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Again - if he’s prosecuted federally for participating in a buyback, it destroys the credibility of buybacks.

It has nothing at all to do with who has the legal authority to promise amnesty. They either pay up, or they’re on record as refusing to “buy back machineguns”. They either keep their mouths shut and take it, or they’re not able to do buybacks anymore.

The mostly likely negative outcome here is that the feds will target the guy for some other, ostensibly unrelated “crime”.
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Buy backs put on by the local police may be no questions asked, but the feds may be interested in the fact that he made 60 auto sears. He even posted the evidence they can use against him.

Local LEO cannot give amnesty for a Federal offense.


Again - if he’s prosecuted federally for participating in a buyback, it destroys the credibility of buybacks.

It has nothing at all to do with who has the legal authority to promise amnesty. They either pay up, or they’re on record as refusing to “buy back machineguns”. They either keep their mouths shut and take it, or they’re not able to do buybacks anymore.

The mostly likely negative outcome here is that the feds will target the guy for some other, ostensibly unrelated “crime”.
Nobody turning in guns at a buyback cares about the credibility of the thing.  Thye just want free breadsticks.  The cops could turn that guy away and I doubt it would have affected the decisions of one other person in that line.  Pointing to the bag of plastic legos and shouting injustice because the cops won't accept them in the buyback would be an unmoving argument.
Link Posted: 9/16/2022 10:18:45 AM EDT
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Not tax traceable if he uses the gift cards for FTF purchases, although he might get pinched doing the same online.
However, since he's bragging about it online he's inviting the alphabet into his life.
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