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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:07:18 PM EDT
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Gerber StrongArm.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:12:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @monadh Carbon forms compounds with iron and other alloying elements that are called carbides - iron carbide, tungsten carbide, etc. The martensitic stainless steels have relatively low carbon contents to avoid the formation of chrome-carbide. The chromium must be permitted to form chromium-oxide at the surface in order to protect the underlying iron, otherwise its corrosion resistance will not be much better than carbon steel. True. Since this isn't 1940 we have lots of new steels that do all sorts of good things like allow free chromium to maintain stainlessness while forming vanadium carbides or nitrides |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:13:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SRK https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-20b20frsxz/images/stencil/1080x1080/products/23232/42110/49lck__64091.1552664627.jpg?c=2 Esee 6 is for the woods SRK is the answer... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:23:12 PM EDT
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Clinch pick, kabar, seal pup, fairbairn sykes commando knife, it kinda depends on what you want to use it for and how much weight do you want to deal with. Whatever you get is likely going to need an aftermarket sheath.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:23:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True. Since this isn't 1940 we have lots of new steels that do all sorts of good things like allow free chromium to maintain stainlessness while forming vanadium carbides or nitrides Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @monadh Carbon forms compounds with iron and other alloying elements that are called carbides - iron carbide, tungsten carbide, etc. The martensitic stainless steels have relatively low carbon contents to avoid the formation of chrome-carbide. The chromium must be permitted to form chromium-oxide at the surface in order to protect the underlying iron, otherwise its corrosion resistance will not be much better than carbon steel. True. Since this isn't 1940 we have lots of new steels that do all sorts of good things like allow free chromium to maintain stainlessness while forming vanadium carbides or nitrides What steels are those? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Came in to post this. Cheap, and the grip is set up well for stabby stabby. I bought one for my plate carrier, and am now trying to figure out where.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What steels are those? Lots of them S90V, S110v, S125v, M390(20cv and 204p includedl M398, and Vanax. A little less on the Vanadium carbide side are S30v, S35vn, S45n, SPY27 and Elmax. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:37:57 PM EDT
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If knife is for actual use for combat I recommend investing in actual real world training for actual knife fighting. Not some retards who say they can teach it. I'm talking going to India or Indonesia.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The TOPS Tahoma Field Knife is incredible at the price point; i've used it extensively and its incredible value: https://www.bladehq.com https://www.thealaskalife.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/TOPS-Tahoma-Field-Knife-24.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag23rB5RiAQ |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:48:45 PM EDT
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Quote History This fucking place is gonna break me 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of them S90V, S110v, S125v, M390(20cv and 204p includedl M398, and Vanax. A little less on the Vanadium carbide side are S30v, S35vn, S45n, SPY27 and Elmax. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What steels are those? Lots of them S90V, S110v, S125v, M390(20cv and 204p includedl M398, and Vanax. A little less on the Vanadium carbide side are S30v, S35vn, S45n, SPY27 and Elmax. Cool - thank you. I've never used or specified any of those steels for anything. My ASM references may be a bit dated, since they don't have any of those. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:57:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I faced this same question, and settled on the M7 bayonet. I think it is far more likely that I may have to deploy a bayonet in a crowd control, prisoner escort, or intimidation scenario than I will have to have instant access to a tactical combat knife. WTF?? Are you having a WWII flashback? What kind of dream scenario are you playing out in your head? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock knife. Basically an updated copy of the m3 fighting knife. Battle belt knife doesn't mean "survival" knife to be used for bushcraft; battle belt knife is for "battle". Yep the Glock is a pretty damn good knife. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:59:30 PM EDT
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They're hard to find now but the Cold Steel SRK is a decent knife and a steal for $35. There's also the slightly longer Recon Tanto.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool - thank you. I've never used or specified any of those steels for anything. My ASM references may be a bit dated, since they don't have any of those. No problem homie. If you want a pretty solid reference A blog run by a metalurgist where the tests various steels and uses his PhD to provide insight on the data. He also wrote a book on the subject  And is responsible for this chart 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:06:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ginsu knife FTW. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Something that can slash, stab and chop Ginsu knife FTW. Adding you to the short list of posters i refrain from reading as i drink beverages. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:10:18 PM EDT
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Something with a full tang if it will be your main knife/tool. Kabars are fine if you only use them for "knife stuff". Their thin tangs will break if you use them for prying/digging. I'd go for a BUSSE TGULB if it was going to be my one and only knife...
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:11:33 PM EDT
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The OKC3S will be really hard to beat. However, I will admit that it could be somewhat long for many purposes, so I wonder if a really sturdy fixed blade that is about 5" long might be better than an 8" blade. I guess it depends on whether op wants the knife to do duty as a bayonet, fighting knife, large camp knife, and other purposes that require a blade a little longer than 5".
Much would depend on what op lists as their priorities. For example, if a bayonet and fighting knife are lower priorities than a knife that could be used as a pry bar and/or kitchen knife, the OKC3S wouldn't be my first choice. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:13:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:15:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The handle is a bit awkwardly shaped, and it is a heavy knife which together make it less than perfect for fighting. A heavy knife will wear you out especially with wild swings that don't connect. Who said anything about knife being a specific fighting knife ? Just said good fixed blade - as in general purpose. Clearly i know what a fighting knife is and isnt and wouldnt put a general field knife in its place. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First test Put the knife on your belt in it’s preferred location. Sit in a vehicle Report back. Izula-II passes that test |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without reading through the whole thread, I'm guessing ESSE 4 has been mentioned already. Anything bigger is just extra weight better used carrying something else. This^^^ Weight sucks, the lighter the better. Sometimes you just have to carry stuff that is needed but if you can find a lighter version of it thats the way to go. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If knife is for actual use for combat I recommend investing in actual real world training for actual knife fighting. Not some retards who say they can teach it. I'm talking going to India or Indonesia. Or like my Drill Sgt used to say "don't be a geardo privates, don't put stupid shit on your kit just carry extra mags" |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ESEE 3 Even better the ESEE 4 S35VN 3D 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like my Gerber Strongarm. I don’t really have a battle belt though, pretty sure they can be mounted horizontal, what configuration were you shooting for? I like.my strongarm as well, but it lives in the truck for use when camping and out working. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who said anything about knife being a specific fighting knife ? Just said good fixed blade - as in general purpose. Clearly i know what a fighting knife is and isnt and wouldnt put a general field knife in its place. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:37:18 PM EDT
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Kabar tdi? A get off me knife for defense.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No problem homie. If you want a pretty solid reference A blog run by a metalurgist where the tests various steels and uses his PhD to provide insight on the data. He also wrote a book on the subject https://i.imgur.com/z92nnEc.jpg And is responsible for this chart https://i2.wp.com/knifesteelnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/M398-edge-retention2.jpg?w=753&ssl=1 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cool - thank you. I've never used or specified any of those steels for anything. My ASM references may be a bit dated, since they don't have any of those. No problem homie. If you want a pretty solid reference A blog run by a metalurgist where the tests various steels and uses his PhD to provide insight on the data. He also wrote a book on the subject https://i.imgur.com/z92nnEc.jpg And is responsible for this chart https://i2.wp.com/knifesteelnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/M398-edge-retention2.jpg?w=753&ssl=1 Thanks StarScream. I've read some articles on Knife Steel Nerds - that is an excellent blog. I think I will buy that book. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:52:47 AM EDT
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If you want the absolute Tier 1, buy once, cry once Made In The USA option, check out CPK Carothers Performance Knives.
From the Shiv (8" blade. Made for stabbing through anyone, and made to withstand using it to hammer a sniper loophole through a cinder block wall To the DEF Double Edged Fighter (6" double edged blade) UF Utility Fighter (6" single edge) DEK1 Defensive Everyday Knife (4.2" blade single edge). Check out what the proprietary Delta 3V heat treat can do:  3" 3V EDC cut and durability demo  CPM 3V knife abuse test, 8" tactical fighter through concrete demonstration  Cutting and durability demonstration, 3V Field Knife |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:59:30 AM EDT
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I use a KBar/Hinderer TDI Hellfire
 Attached FileETA, I have it in a custom scout carry sheath on my belt |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:06:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First test Put the knife on your belt in it’s preferred location. Sit in a vehicle Report back. Why? Im not sitting in a vehicle when im hiking, hunting, shooting, or wearing a gunbelt. If I am I can shift it, but im not. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have any experience with Gerber, but I look down on their steel choice. Benchmade is a no go for me. No experience with ESEE, but some people like them. My SOG SEAL Pup has been indestructible. All my guys carry and use Cold Steel SRKs. They like them. I just got a couple of Skallywag Tactical fixed blades which I'm going to put through their paces. Cant you just say "my buddies" like everyone else? |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:14:41 AM EDT
[#33]
Browning FDX knife if you can find one, out of the set of 5, these 3 would be my pick.
 Here's the whole set of 5. 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:17:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ESEE 3 or ESEE 4 |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:18:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If knife is for actual use for combat I recommend investing in actual real world training for actual knife fighting. Not some retards who say they can teach it. I'm talking going to India or Indonesia. Ive been to Indonesia and the Philippines. The US has better instructors. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:26:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWinner chicken dinner |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:27:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ESEE 3 or ESEE 4 This |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:28:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Double tap.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:44:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If knife is for actual use for combat I recommend investing in actual real world training for actual knife fighting. Not some retards who say they can teach it. I'm talking going to India or Indonesia. Ive been to Indonesia and the Philippines. The US has better instructors. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:45:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive been to Indonesia and the Philippines. The US has better instructors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If knife is for actual use for combat I recommend investing in actual real world training for actual knife fighting. Not some retards who say they can teach it. I'm talking going to India or Indonesia. Ive been to Indonesia and the Philippines. The US has better instructors. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:53:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In for... Mora, you don't need a knife on a battle belt, mora, ESEE, mora, gerber, mora, ESEE, mora, you don't need a knife on battle belt, mora, I just use my Schrade Old Timer, mora, ESEE, you don't need a knife on a battle belt, Busse, mora, ESEE, mora, do you think you're Rambo, mora, ESEE, mora, I'm 43 years old and have never needed a knife in my entire life so why do you need one, mora, whatever my kid bought me for Father's Day, mora, Glock, mora, beretta 92, ESEE, mora, Gerber, mora, there's a separate forum for that question, mora, you don't need a knife on a battle belt, 2015 Honda Accord, mora, buck, mora, more magazines bro, mora, ESEE, doesn't matter as long as it's not from China, mora, ESEE, mora, telescoping fishing pole, mora, buck, mora, you're a retread, mora, hey did anyone mention mora yet, mora, ESEE, mora, hey has anyone ever used an ESEE and what did you think about it, mora, ESEE, you don't need a knife on a battle belt, mora...  What's your budget?  Jesus? Is that you? I wish we would have met a few days earlier so you could have told me the mega-ball (both) numbers I'm no knife expert but I don't ask GD for knife advise. I dont ask knife guys for gun advice (taurus, keltec, centry, "my hi point has always worked", etc, etc, etc etc x ruger x 100) Get the info from the specialists of your query. Or get an esee or mora. My experience with esee is good blade but very high maintenance if you actually use it. They rust. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:59:42 AM EDT
[#42]
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Posted: 1/25/2021 5:42:27 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF?? Are you having a WWII flashback? What kind of dream scenario are you playing out in your head? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I faced this same question, and settled on the M7 bayonet. I think it is far more likely that I may have to deploy a bayonet in a crowd control, prisoner escort, or intimidation scenario than I will have to have instant access to a tactical combat knife. WTF?? Are you having a WWII flashback? What kind of dream scenario are you playing out in your head? No flashback. A bayonet lives on my home defense rifle. Men fear knives, there's a reason they're often deployed in crowd control. It gives you the option to hurt someone, while covering him with your rifle, but without shooting him, which might be desirable depending on circumstances. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:04:05 AM EDT
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Got a Gerber Strongarm for Christmas. While a little smaller than my USMC KBar, the Strongarm is a lot of bang for the buck.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:06:16 AM EDT
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Wouldn't this be good for battle? It's a bayonet, a field knife, and a fighting knife.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:12:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:32:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ended up ordering an Esse 4. Thanks for the advice great choice |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 7:45:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:58:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like it. VERY light weight, decent steel, nice sheath, ergonomic handle. I prefer something with more of a guard, but that's a personal preference and other people have good reason to disagree. Overall it is probably one of the better knives suggested in this thread. As I suggested earlier, perhaps also consider the Cold Steel AK47 Field Knife. It weights more for sure, but it is also a massive chunk of 3V steel that you are never gonna break or damage no matter what you do to it. Link below: Cold Steel AK47 Another option would be the Cold Steel SRK in 3V. Little lighter than the AK47 above, but a very capable knife: 3V SRK |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:59:48 AM EDT
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This thread is full of junk knives. But since it is for your battle rig, it doesn't really matter
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