Everywhere I look.

This is all either pointless or it isn't.

Romans 12:3-7

3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. 4 For as in one body we have many members,[a] and the members do not all have the same function, 5 so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. 6 Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith; 7 if service, in our serving; the one who teaches, in his teaching;

https://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

""I was an atheist at one time. And like many atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly. What is it about atheists that we would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that we don't believe even exists?! What causes us to do that? When I was an atheist, I attributed my intentions as caring for those poor, delusional people...to help them realize their hope was completely ill-founded. To be honest, I also had another motive. As I challenged those who believed in God, I was deeply curious to see if they could convince me otherwise. Part of my quest was to become free from the question of God. If I could conclusively prove to believers that they were wrong, then the issue is off the table, and I would be free to go about my life.

God seeks to know us. I didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them.

I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Lewis went on to write a book titled, "Surprised by Joy" as a result of knowing God. I too had no expectations other than rightfully admitting God's existence. Yet over the following several months, I became amazed by his love for me...""

It isn't.

You just may have.

It doesn't take much to figure it out.

The exact same evidence Muslims and Hindus would use to justify their gods.  Do you have anything that is unique to your particular god?  How would I know which one to follow?

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''How happy is the man
who does not follow (Lit not walk in)
the advise of the wicked, or take the path
of sinners.

Instead, his delight is in the LORD's instruction,
and he meditates on it day and night.

He is like a tree planted besides streams of water
that bears its fruit in season and who leaf does not
wither.

Whatever he does prospers.

The wicked are not like this; instead, they are like the chaff
that the wind blows away.
Therefore, the wicked (or the lawless) will not survive the judgment,
and sinners will not be seen in the community of the righteous.

For the LORD watches (or protects) over the way of the righteous
but the way of the wicked leads to ruin."

The Old Testament Book of Psalms
Psalm 1/1-6: The Two Ways

LoL

There's another one.

"Why do the people rebel and the nations plot in vain?"

This has been repeatedly addressed in this thread, our God is not like any other god. And that is realitively easy to know and prove if you want to know it.

Right now you don't.

I'll wait till tomorrow to see where this goes.

With more bible quotes?  Look at the trees!  You have no proof,  if you did you would get on with it already.  You have faith.  Nothing more.  Faith is not a reliable method to find truth.

Things that have not been proven to exist, cannot be asserted as the cause of things.

So, what specifically?  Cause I'm honestly not seeing it.

We've been through this dozens of times over the course of many months in at least two threads.

How can you prove or even begin to understand anything that is outside the realm of your's
or anyone else's method of testing?
If God is truly the God of creation, and has decided not to include any one of the creations concerning
His existence, then this is exactly what He has done concerning you.
For at least right now, and hopefully this will change.
Yet, in many ways you and I are still alike in the sense that we are both human.
I have no problems at all about what God proposes to do.
To you or me.

Everywhere I look.

I know some of you might think that this statement is an oversimplification, but its not.
And I see it too.

"A fools displeasure is known
at once,
but whoever ignores an insult is sensible.

Whoever speaks the truth declares what is right,
but a false witness deceit."

If it's outside of everyone's method of testing, why believe in it?  Why would there be good reason to do so?

Shouldn't we wait to believe in something until there is good evidence?

Didn't include any of his creations concerning his existence?  Exept Saul, and Moses, and every Christian who claims to have a personal relationship.

Maybe I'm not understanding up what you are trying to say.

If I said I see Vishnu's influence all around,  how would we know which god is the correct one?

"In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses,
according to the richness of His grace that God lavished upon us with all wisdom
and understanding.
Therefore, He has made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good
pleasure that He planned (or predestined) for the administration of the fulfillment of days.
----- to bring everything together in the Messiah (or Christ Jesus or being in Him), both things
in heaven and also things on the earth in Him."

The New Testament Epistle of Ephesians
Chapter 1/7-10: Greeting of the Gospel

When we go back to God there will be plenty to do
if we are wise now and accept His challenge.

You have already been told.
Who is, "we?"
You?

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord.”
??Isaiah? ?55:8? ?ESV??

"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vineyard keeper.
Every branch in Me that does not produce fruit He removes,
and He prunes every branch that produces fruit so that it will
produce even more fruit.

So, you are already clean (or blameless) because of the word I have spoken
to you.

Remain in Me, and I in you.

Just as the branch is unable to produce fruit by itself unless it remains on the vine,
so neither can you unless you remain in Me."

John 15/ 1-4: The Logos of God
in Jesus Christ

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

-Jules-

We who have been called of God, through Christ, are not worried about God's vengeance
even if it is spoken through a counterfeit message.
Not one bit.

The Finder of lost children is what Jesus Christ was sent to do.
And is still doing now.

Why would an insolent man's father show him anything?
What would be the point?

"You know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves, an irrational fear of the unknown. But there's no such thing as the unknown  only things temporarily hidden, temporarily not understood."

-James Tiberius "Jim" Kirk-

https://youtu.be/YbHtzqCge_8

Just ignore the trolls,  we have bent over backwards longer than we ought to have.

Romans 15:5-7

5May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to live in such harmony with one another, in accord with Christ Jesus, 6that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 7Therefore welcome one another as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God.

Psalms 19:1-6

The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.

Day to day pours forth speech,
And night to night reveals knowledge.

There is no speech, nor are there words;
Their voice is not heard.

Their line has gone out through all the earth,
And their utterances to the end of the world.
In them He has placed a tent for the sun,

Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber;
It rejoices as a strong man to run his course.

Its rising is from one end of the heavens,
And its circuit to the other end of them;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

As do I.

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one."
??John? ?10:27-30? ?ESV??

Discussion starts at the 3 min mark.

Ray Comfort on the Atheist Experience.

It's all about the feelings.

If he hasn't accepted our challenge, I don't see why we should accept his

In before "who are YOU to challenge god?".

"First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made for everyone,
for kings and all those who are in authority, so that we may lead a quite and tranquil life in all godliness
and dignity.

This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and come to the knowledge
of the truth.

For there is one God
and one mediator between God
And man,
a man, Jesus Christ,
who gave Himself-----a ransom
for all,
a testimony
at the proper time."

The New Testament Epistle of 1st Timothy
Chapter 2/1-6: Instructions on Prayer

"Anyone who has an ear should
listen to what the Spirit says to the
churches.

I will give the victor the right to eat
from the tree of life,
which is in the paradise of God."

The New Testament Book of Revelation
Chapter 2:7/ The Word of Jesus Christ

It's not that easy being greenHaving to spend each day the color of the leaves
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold
Or something much more colorful like that

It's not easy being green
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're
Not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water
Or stars in the sky

But green's the color of Spring
And green can be cool and friendly-like
And green can be big like an ocean, or important
Like a mountain, or tall like a tree

When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why
Wonder, I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful
And I think it's what I want to be.

Kermit the Frog.

You asked for it.

Thank you sir.