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Posted: 1/17/2023 2:59:12 PM EST
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51m · JUST IN - Henry Kissinger, Klaus Schwab's mentor, told the World Economic Forum today that Ukraine should join NATO. https://gab.com/disclosetv/posts/109706041632372853 Meat of this point starts just before 6:00 mark -  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:00:06 PM EST
I mean, it makes sense. NATO = Anti-USSR Org
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:01:33 PM EST
Blackrock just inked a deal to rebuild Ukraine!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:02:10 PM EST
Blackrock just inked a deal to rebuild Ukraine! Yay Larry Fink!
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:03:41 PM EST
Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:17:19 PM EST
How TF does Kissinger and soros manage to stay alive this long? They look like they died in the 60s. Biden should have never made it thru the 2020 campaign and Hillary needed to be carried like a puppet... How do they do it? Team of doctors following them around? Is that an option for the American under Obamacare?
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BDI
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:19:21 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By walldj45: I mean, it makes sense. NATO = Anti-USSR Org Uh, no it doesn't. NATO is a real speculative check to be cashed. Perhaps Portugal or Albania will be all in for the next anti-Russian crusade, but one no vote and the credibility is lost forever. And, like it or not, we've signed on to be the security guarantor of Ukraine, the most exposed, corrupt and economically decrepit major state in Europe, indefinitely. Doing so with a NATO imprimatur will just mean that NATO craters that much faster. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:19:29 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TooBigToFail: Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them. 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:19:55 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By urbanredneck: How TF does Kissinger and soros manage to stay alive this long? They look like they died in the 60s. Biden should have never made it thru the 2020 campaign and Hillary needed to be carried like a puppet... How do they do it? Team of doctors following them around? Is that an option for the American under Obamacare? The benevolence of Satan and the blood sacrifices they offer to him. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:28:03 PM EST
Quote HistoryQuote History Originally Posted By HiramRanger: Originally Posted By TooBigToFail: Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/illallowit-195.gif 2nd motion |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:41:54 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By urbanredneck: How TF does Kissinger and soros manage to stay alive this long? They look like they died in the 60s. Biden should have never made it thru the 2020 campaign and Hillary needed to be carried like a puppet... How do they do it? Team of doctors following them around? Is that an option for the American under Obamacare? |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:49:43 PM EST
Holy shit I had to look it up, Ole Henry is 99 years old.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 3:56:53 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Butternut: Holy shit I had to look it up, Ole Henry is 99 years old. Yep. Still drives his station wagon to winn dixie every morning for free coffee. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:38:57 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TooBigToFail: Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them. Turkey has shown they have value in their drones and play a natural role in opposition to Russia. As much as I would love the west to liberate Constantinople and have the vile Ottoman removed, they are useful for now. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:42:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanKulak]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tsg68: Blackrock just inked a deal to rebuild Ukraine! Yay Larry Fink! Enjoy your shitty 401K ESG losses. I hope they’re ready for windmills, bug eating and Drag Queen story hour in Kyiv. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:44:40 PM EST
Hungary would veto against Ukraine joining and Turkey is needed because of the Turkish straits. I mean Hungary is already vetoing against Sweden and Finland joining (As is Turkey but for completely different reasons). They would never let Ukraine join because they fear Russia.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:45:43 PM EST
Yes they should after the war is over.
They couldn't join right now if we really wanted them to. Turkey is still dragging their feet on Finland and Sweeden and isn't planning on doing anything until early summer. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/14/turkey-pushes-back-vote-on-sweden-and-finlands-nato-accession |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:47:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Apetortribute: Hungary would veto against Ukraine joining and Turkey is needed because of the Turkish straits. I mean Hungary is already vetoing against Sweden and Finland joining (As is Turkey but for completely different reasons). They would never let Ukraine join because they fear Russia. Neither Hungary nor Turkey are vetoing their joining. They aren't approving it yet, but they haven't vetoed shit. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:50:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Screechjet1: Uh, no it doesn't. NATO is a real speculative check to be cashed. Perhaps Portugal or Albania will be all in for the next anti-Russian crusade, but one no vote and the credibility is lost forever. And, like it or not, we've signed on to be the security guarantor of Ukraine, the most exposed, corrupt and economically decrepit major state in Europe, indefinitely. Doing so with a NATO imprimatur will just mean that NATO craters that much faster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By walldj45: I mean, it makes sense. NATO = Anti-USSR Org Uh, no it doesn't. NATO is a real speculative check to be cashed. Perhaps Portugal or Albania will be all in for the next anti-Russian crusade, but one no vote and the credibility is lost forever. And, like it or not, we've signed on to be the security guarantor of Ukraine, the most exposed, corrupt and economically decrepit major state in Europe, indefinitely. Doing so with a NATO imprimatur will just mean that NATO craters that much faster. Thankfully some people understand. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:52:28 PM EST
Give them our spot
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:53:27 PM EST
Ukraine has been ineligible since 2013.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:53:36 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TooBigToFail: Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them. agreed, Ukraine cant go join whomever.. meanwhile let in Finland and Sweden. They are decent countries. Turkeys objections to both joining says it all. 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:54:23 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Butternut: Holy shit I had to look it up, Ole Henry is 99 years old. Stem cells... 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:54:42 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TooBigToFail: Kick out turkey, and let Ukraine join an alliance with them. Turkey is much more valuable than Ukraine. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:55:04 PM EST
Ukraine cannot currently join NATO.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:55:17 PM EST
Don't see it happening while the war is still hot. But they're effectively already a member, just without article 5 rights.
Getting NATO training, NATO hardware, transitioning to NATO munitions, Intel cooperation... NATO in all but name. |
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BDI
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:56:30 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 07AMF: Turkey is much more valuable than Ukraine. And its not like either is a real gem. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:57:08 PM EST
It’s been a thing for a long time now… like before 2014. Ukraine isn’t the only troubled nation that a path for NATO membership has been issued. They have a long way to go to meet stability requirements… and there will not be a waiver for that.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:57:12 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By urbanredneck: How TF does Kissinger and soros manage to stay alive this long? They look like they died in the 60s. Biden should have never made it thru the 2020 campaign and Hillary needed to be carried like a puppet... How do they do it? Team of doctors following them around? Is that an option for the American under Obamacare? Luciferians find a way |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 4:57:19 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By fisterkev: Don't see it happening while the war is still hot. But they're effectively already a member, just without article 5 rights. Getting NATO training, NATO hardware, transitioning to NATO munitions, Intel cooperation... NATO in all but name. Such a win for the US taxpayer. Its like a poorer version of Germany, except LARPing as Israel. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:00:27 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By walldj45: I mean, it makes sense. NATO = Anti-USSR Org |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:12:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: Wilson-AC365]
Blackrock in Ukraine will be exactly like the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. Which was a pirate kingdom initially run by L. Paul Bremer...Formerly of Kissinger & Associates.
The Neocon Cold War Fudd's can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are racing towards a global Great Reset War that best case ends with Blackrock making their children into rental and debt slaves...And worse case, ends up with their children living in post nuclear exchange America. Where was Kissinger and his high and lofty morals when Pol Pot was doing his thing in Cambodia? Oh, wait!...There were no mega-bucks to be made in preventing genocide and war crimes in Cambodia. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:17:11 PM EST
NATO=even more US treasure and lives.
Quick, everybody sign your kids up with unkie sam to fight the russkies while europe sits back and laughs their collective asses off. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:17:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: 2nd motion Turkey sounding like a no on Sweden - PKK Sweden - F-16 issue in Senate https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/foreign/biden-plan-sell-jets-turkey-democrat-opposition |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:18:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Little_Bo_Peep: Turkey has shown they have value in their drones and play a natural role in opposition to Russia. As much as I would love the west to liberate Constantinople and have the vile Ottoman removed, they are useful for now. China sure loves Turkeyhttps://www.trtworld.com/video/focal-point/what-does-turkey-stand-to-gain-by-joining-chinas-belt-and-road-initiative/5ccc67ede0252f7cb0590809 |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:19:35 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Apetortribute: Hungary would veto against Ukraine joining and Turkey is needed because of the Turkish straits. I mean Hungary is already vetoing against Sweden and Finland joining (As is Turkey but for completely different reasons). They would never let Ukraine join because they fear Russia. https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/senior-us-lawmaker-objects-as-biden-admin-prepares-f-16-sale-to-turkiye/amp |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:19:58 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Turkey sounding like a no on Sweden - F-16 issue in Senate and PKK most wanted That's OK. The US and Sweden could sign a mutual defense treaty tomorrow with the Balts and the Turks will have fuck all to say about it. It would register 8 minutes after sports scores and cat vids on a 10 minute US news program. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:20:07 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Apetortribute: Hungary would veto against Ukraine joining and Turkey is needed because of the Turkish straits. I mean Hungary is already vetoing against Sweden and Finland joining (As is Turkey but for completely different reasons). They would never let Ukraine join because they fear Russia. https://www.reuters.com/world/sweden-finland-must-send-up-130-terrorists-turkey-nato-bid-2023-01-16/ |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:21:07 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: Neither Hungary nor Turkey are vetoing their joining. They aren't approving it yet, but they haven't vetoed shit. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkey-sweden-six-months-honor-nato-conditions |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:22:20 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By fisterkev: Don't see it happening while the war is still hot. But they're effectively already a member, just without article 5 rights. Getting NATO training, NATO hardware, transitioning to NATO munitions, Intel cooperation... NATO in all but name. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/17/zezv-j17.html |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:32:08 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Screechjet1: That's OK. The US and Sweden could sign a mutual defense treaty tomorrow with the Balts and the Turks will have fuck all to say about it. It would register 8 minutes after sports scores and cat vids on a 10 minute US news program. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screechjet1: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Turkey sounding like a no on Sweden - F-16 issue in Senate and PKK most wanted That's OK. The US and Sweden could sign a mutual defense treaty tomorrow with the Balts and the Turks will have fuck all to say about it. It would register 8 minutes after sports scores and cat vids on a 10 minute US news program. Damn, I must have missed your posts here lately. Glad to see you again.  Your post always provide a thoughtful read. 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:35:27 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Screechjet1: That's OK. The US and Sweden could sign a mutual defense treaty tomorrow with the Balts and the Turks will have fuck all to say about it. It would register 8 minutes after sports scores and cat vids on a 10 minute US news program. I’ll bring that up over Fika in my next non date date in Sweden |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:40:25 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Wilson-AC365: Blackrock in Ukraine will be exactly like the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. Which was a pirate kingdom initially run by L. Paul Bremer...Formerly of Kissinger & Associates. The Neocon Cold War Fudd's can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are racing towards a global Great Reset War that best case ends with Blackrock making their children into rental and debt slaves...And worse case, ends up with their children living in post nuclear exchange America. Where was Kissinger and his high and lofty morals when Pol Pot was doing his thing in Cambodia? Oh, wait!...There were no mega-bucks to be made in preventing genocide and war crimes in Cambodia. 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:41:23 PM EST
Quote History I agree |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:42:47 PM EST
The potato is having trouble getting money to Ukraine, so if they join NATO, then he can say were obliged to help a member, it makes perfect sense.
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:44:38 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Wilson-AC365: Blackrock in Ukraine will be exactly like the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. Which was a pirate kingdom initially run by L. Paul Bremer...Formerly of Kissinger & Associates. The Neocon Cold War Fudd's can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are racing towards a global Great Reset War that best case ends with Blackrock making their children into rental and debt slaves...And worse case, ends up with their children living in post nuclear exchange America. Where was Kissinger and his high and lofty morals when Pol Pot was doing his thing in Cambodia? Oh, wait!...There were no mega-bucks to be made in preventing genocide and war crimes in Cambodia.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:51:24 PM EST
Quote History NATO needs to create an auxiliary 
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:53:12 PM EST
Quote HistoryQuote History Originally Posted By Spartan_6: Originally Posted By Wilson-AC365: Blackrock in Ukraine will be exactly like the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. Which was a pirate kingdom initially run by L. Paul Bremer...Formerly of Kissinger & Associates. The Neocon Cold War Fudd's can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are racing towards a global Great Reset War that best case ends with Blackrock making their children into rental and debt slaves...And worse case, ends up with their children living in post nuclear exchange America. Where was Kissinger and his high and lofty morals when Pol Pot was doing his thing in Cambodia? Oh, wait!...There were no mega-bucks to be made in preventing genocide and war crimes in Cambodia. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/1zvslystz4-7.gif
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:56:37 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By fxntime: NATO=even more US treasure and lives. Quick, everybody sign your kids up with unkie sam to fight the russkies while europe sits back and laughs their collective asses off. OMG the sky is falling. Send your kids to be raped by Russian conscripts. Ukraine can’t legally join Nato while they’re at war. The war would have to end. Which would negate sending your kids to get raped by Russian conscripts. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 5:59:08 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By m35ben: Ukraine cannot currently join NATO. Thank Christ. |
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Posted: 1/17/2023 6:06:22 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By DOW: Thank Christ. Shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. All this hysteria over a bunch of made of drama that can’t legally happen anyways. “Oh Noes I don’t want muh childrun dying for Ukraine globohomo biolabs! But what about muh fentynal killing 5 million Americans a month! Shopping sprees!” It’s not happening unless russia rolls troops in to Poland at a minimum. There’s no secret way to make Ukraine a member of nato and then attack russia for attacking a new nato member. Ain’t happening |
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