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Posted: 6/2/2020 7:37:11 PM EDT
I have a carport that is finished outside of garage doors. It is two bay, 9x7 doors. It is already wired for the openers and the ceiling outlets are wired to switches by the door.

The previous homeowner never put doors on because he had an extended bed truck and it would have totally filled whatever side of the garage it was in. The interior walls are covered with the same vinyl siding as the rest of the house over sheetrock, which while a little odd isn't that unusual, and it was well done and looks nice. The ceiling had a matching color of vinyl that covers it.

I went and priced doors and openers at lowes and HD over the weekend for a ballpark (I'm sure there are better out there). For uninsulated windowless doors and two 3/4 chain drive openers it looks like I'd be in it for about $1000 in parts. I was surprised to see that springs, tracks, and the associated parts are included with the doors, which I really didn't expect.

I called a local company who came out last week. I got the impression that their estimator was new and out of her depth... she wasn't able to answer any questions and was concerned about which way the ceiling rafters ran (it's very obviously a trussed roof and has a hatch to access the area up top). She was extremely concerned about whether the vinyl siding would get in the way of the install, which seemed an odd thing to be so concerned about... you could screw into it or cut it with a good utility knife.

I didn't ask questions about or expect preliminary answers on price, but she deferred practically every question I had to "I'll have to ask my boss" and told me she'd have an estimate thursday. I didn't get it until this morning, and it was $1700 all in. While the price isn't a show stopper (although I think it seemed a little high, there aren't a lot of residential garage door companies here and I could live with it if it came with warrantied work, although I'm not convinced there is ~700 in labor in this job), when I called her to ask I was told that I would also have to buy "pads", which were $50 each, and that I would have to remove the vinyl siding in the areas where these "pads" would be installed. When I asked how I should know where to remove the siding she stated "oh, it's about the size of a 2x6 and about 16" up". I was polite but I told her if that was all it was I could stick a 2x6 to the wall for a whole lot less than $50x2. I was told that their installers did not want to be responsible for cutting any of the vinyl siding and apparently she thought I'd start hacking the finish off the walls without knowing the size or placement of some part I know nothing about.

So i went from being simply baffled about whether the estimator knew any more about garage doors than I did (jury is still out, and I don't know shit) to thinking they just really must not want the job. If nothing else i just found it unprofessional to send an estimate and then immediately tell me i need to buy more stuff from them to even have the install done, in addition to doing the prep work myself.

So, sorry about the tl;dr, but how hard is installing a garage door? It doesn't look all that complicated but sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Again, the wiring is already done.
Link Posted: 6/2/2020 8:22:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/2/2020 10:12:54 PM EDT
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I just had an insulated 16 x 8 with a row of insulated windows installed.

I priced the same door and it was $1400. I had it installed for $1700.

Mine was probably an easier install as it was the same size as previous, and all infrastructure was already there.

That being said the shop you got a quote from sounds like a hack and I'd go elsewhere. Just thought I'd give you my numbers as a frame of reference.
Link Posted: 6/3/2020 6:26:38 AM EDT
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If you're not convinced installing two doors is worth $700 in labor try installing them ourself, you'll quickly have a new perspective. It's a two man job and the insulated door panels are a bit heavier than the non-insulated.

It will take a guy with more attention to detail than the average installer to deal with the siding in your garage and make it all look good, shop around & good luck.
Link Posted: 6/3/2020 10:10:04 AM EDT
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Lowe’s and Home Depot both have lists of installers for various departments like flooring, doors, etc. Get estimates from them for the doors you are considering, as long as it isn’t the company you just got an estimate from. Plus the box stores have to warranty the install job.

If you go with the DYI method, just be careful with the counterbalance spring installation, the dangerous part.
Link Posted: 6/3/2020 10:24:09 AM EDT
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The Lowes here has Wayne Dalton garage doors.
That style of door is great for DIY.
It has an internal spring.
After installing the door, you wind the spring with a ratchet or drill driver with a socket.
There's no way for it to slip or unwind and hurt you.
Very clean installation and if the spring ever breaks, it's contained inside a metal tube.
Link Posted: 6/3/2020 2:33:03 PM EDT
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The Lowes here has Wayne Dalton garage doors.
That style of door is great for DIY.
It has an internal spring.
After installing the door, you wind the spring with a ratchet or drill driver with a socket.
There's no way for it to slip or unwind and hurt you.
Very clean installation and if the spring ever breaks, it's contained inside a metal tube.
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That's interesting. I don't recall the brand I looked at here. I'm sure they have a catalog of them.

The spring and the difficulty of adjusting it was the only reason I didn't immediately go DIY. I've heard that those can be tricky. Read that as potentially dangerous.

I have another local company who told me over the phone they would beat the previous bid, although they have not been out to look at it yet. I did describe to them the things that the previous estimator appeared to be hung up on so they had a reference and they were still confident in their statement.
Link Posted: 6/3/2020 7:50:38 PM EDT
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Spend a little extra to do highlift tracks to keep as much clearance as possible with the door open. If you are putting an opener in, the liftmaster direct drives that mount directly to the shaft, beside the door, are worth the extra upfront cost.
Link Posted: 6/5/2020 9:56:13 AM EDT
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I need two 8X7 doors and began looking around. Yesterday while at my storage unit it had a roll up door. YouTube showed they are simple to install. So now I’m wondering if roll up doors are stupid on a detached garage.
Link Posted: 6/7/2020 5:37:12 PM EDT
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I would look around for another installer or two or three.  Get several estimates and make sure they are similarly contracted doors, openers, tracks, etc. Also, I am not a fan of installers from HD or Lowes.  I have had several estimates from their folks on a number of different projects and we were not impressed.  I needed a bathtub replaced, just a bathtub, and the estimate came back at $10,500.  I kicked the person out of my house !!

Just be careful and do your research, it will pay off.
Link Posted: 6/8/2020 10:58:59 AM EDT
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Yeah, the second company came out and quoted 1550. They also seemed to less dumb overall. For that price I'll let them do it, since there is a warranty on their service.
Link Posted: 6/9/2020 8:35:24 PM EDT
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Yeah, the second company came out and quoted 1550. They also seemed to less dumb overall. For that price I'll let them do it, since there is a warranty on their service.
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Great call! The savings isn’t worth headache!
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