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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:30:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently. U serious? |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:31:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently. How about no. Not even remotely. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:31:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently. 
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:31:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Kyle vs Chad? The memes write themselves.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:32:26 PM EDT
[#5]
As mentioned, everyone seems pretty calm considering there's a dead dude just chillin' on the porch...
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:32:44 PM EDT
[#6]
after her husband was shot, why isn't she running to help him, but instead keeps arguing like some trailer trash
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:33:04 PM EDT
[#7]
So the little midget needed to grab a gun to try an even things up.
Glad I am a big dude and not intimidated but other guys. Guess the oompa loompa will be somebody's boy toy in prison. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:33:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So 9mm does have stopping power? What a shit show. Lady in the car must have not liked the guy that got shot cause she didn’t seem very concerned for his well being. He did seem like a bit of an asshole just from the video. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:34:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Does the dead guy try to take the rifle away from him? Hmmmmmm……
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:34:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently. LOL Good lord, with that kind of intellect, I hope you don't drive or leave your mother's house. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:35:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bad shoot. +1 How did l know it was going to be because of a bitch altering the court ordered custody arrangement? 
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:36:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Good thing it wasn't a .45 ACP carbine. It would've been a bloodbath. Which still proves that .45>9mm
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:36:50 PM EDT
[#13]
On the one hand,
Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn’t bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:37:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:37:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He did seem like a bit of an asshole just from the video. seems like he was mad that he was there to get his kid at an agreed upon time and the ex purposefully had the kid elsewhere. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:37:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As mentioned, everyone seems pretty calm considering there's a dead dude just chillin' on the porch... |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:38:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the dead guy try to take the rifle away from him? Hmmmmmm…… After the shooter decided to pop off a “warning shot” by the dead guy’s feet. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:39:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:40:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn’t bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter than shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. This is one of those things that if he won’t get off the property, call the cops. Its not Like hes a theif or anything. But they probably didn’t wanna do that since they didn’t want to give him his kid. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:40:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dead guy FAFOd. Best not to FA when the other guy has a gun. This is why you have cops present during child exchanges. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:40:33 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn’t bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter than shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. You're smoking Crack. Call the police and have dude arrested for trespassing and harassment. Going and getting a gun is escalating beyond what is necessary. He shot the guy because he's a chicken shit. Dude is going to prison. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:41:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. @UTex86 How about... it wasn't his property. He's not the husband of the woman with the kids, he's her boyfriend (while she divorces her current husband, not pictured). He doesn't live there, has no reason to be around the children, and is with force preventing the father from access to his children as ordered by a court. I'm not sure all of that is true, but would that affect your reasoning? |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:41:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're smoking Crack. Call the police and have dude arrested for trespassing and harassment. Going and getting a gun is escalating beyond what is necessary. He shot the guy because he's a chicken shit. Dude is going to prison. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn’t bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter than shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. You're smoking Crack. Call the police and have dude arrested for trespassing and harassment. Going and getting a gun is escalating beyond what is necessary. He shot the guy because he's a chicken shit. Dude is going to prison. Crack is whack. Calling the police is probably what I would have done myself. The situation is a shitshow either way. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:41:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Bad shoot i guess
But nothing will probably happen because he refused to leave |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:42:12 PM EDT
[#25]
Hope Kyle likes cornhole. I hear it's a pretty popular pastime in prison.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:42:21 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He did seem like a bit of an asshole just from the video. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:42:22 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? Stupid people don’t really have a good grasp on things like reality, good decision making and long term planning. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:42:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good thing it wasn't a .45 ACP carbine. It would've been a bloodbath. Which still proves that .45>9mm .
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:43:05 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit. Not a single fuck was given. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? Probably shock |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:43:07 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @UTex86 How about... it wasn't his property. He's not the husband of the woman with the kids, he's her boyfriend (while she divorces her current husband, not pictured). He doesn't live there, has no reason to be around the children, and is with force preventing the father from access to his children as ordered by a court. I'm not sure all of that is true, but would that affect your reasoning? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. @UTex86 How about... it wasn't his property. He's not the husband of the woman with the kids, he's her boyfriend (while she divorces her current husband, not pictured). He doesn't live there, has no reason to be around the children, and is with force preventing the father from access to his children as ordered by a court. I'm not sure all of that is true, but would that affect your reasoning? It would shade things a little different, yes. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:44:04 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably shock Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? Probably shock He sure did go down fast. Second video sounds like he got double tapped. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:44:41 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It would shade things a little different, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. @UTex86 How about... it wasn't his property. He's not the husband of the woman with the kids, he's her boyfriend (while she divorces her current husband, not pictured). He doesn't live there, has no reason to be around the children, and is with force preventing the father from access to his children as ordered by a court. I'm not sure all of that is true, but would that affect your reasoning? It would shade things a little different, yes. Well let's just keep throwing our personal fill-in of the details together until we have more facts! |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:45:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He sure did go down fast. Second video sounds like he got double tapped. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? Probably shock He sure did go down fast. Second video sounds like he got double tapped. Take a nine mil to the right spot and you'll just get switched off. Takes good aim or lots of luck though. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:45:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Once again, a gun fails miserably as a magic wand.
You aren’t scaring people off brandishing a gun. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:47:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Lubbock. Shithole Extraordinaire.
I processed the film and printed photos in a murder trial there. Motherfucker shot a man in his doorway, while attempting to break into the man's house......................and he walked. That's all I can say. West Texas is rife with some really fucked up shit. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:47:17 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a good shoot. The shooter appeared to be in fear for his life and the "victim" stood in his path of retreat back into his residence. I don't see how this could have played out any differently. I thought I'd seen enough derp for one day, then I saw this.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:47:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn't bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn't, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn't point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I'm actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don't touch me on my property when I've told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. Don't fuck with dad's trying to pick up their kids in accordance with their court orders, and people won't end up in jail, prison, and/or dead. It really is that simple. The "mom" was clearly causing problems by not letting the dad know where the kid was and by trying to keep him outside of her court ordered window. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:48:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:49:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't know if it was the shooter's property. Shooter seems like a piece of shit that was probably staying at his old lady's for the weekend instead of his mom's. Don't fuck with dad's trying to pick up their kids in accordance with their court orders, and people won't end up in jail, prison, and/or dead. It really is that simple. The "mom" was clearly causing problems by not letting the dad know where the kid was and by trying to keep him outside of her court ordered window. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn't bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn't, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn't point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I'm actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don't touch me on my property when I've told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. Don't fuck with dad's trying to pick up their kids in accordance with their court orders, and people won't end up in jail, prison, and/or dead. It really is that simple. The "mom" was clearly causing problems by not letting the dad know where the kid was and by trying to keep him outside of her court ordered window. I think we can all agree ex wives are pretty terrible. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:49:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking Kyles… And Chad lol |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:49:59 PM EDT
[#41]
impressive 9mm shot, was it to the heart? he dropped like bricks and didn't even move.
his wife was too busy filming instead of calling 911 herself.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:51:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is so bizarre to me as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How the hell is everyone so calm with a dude laying dead on the porch? They probably thought he was just wounded or knocked out or something from the fall. That and shock. You can hear her start to scream when she closes the car door to call 911 |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:51:51 PM EDT
[#43]
the shooter backing way up with a ton of room all around him and then shooting the other guy - who is still on the porch is not a good look.
IDK about how he is doing legally, but the optics of that are terrible. Its like he successfully disengaged and then with no immediate threat decided to shoot the guy anyways. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:51:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Crack is whack. Calling the police is probably what I would have done myself. The situation is a shitshow either way. Police were on the way according to Chad Read, aka dead guy.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:52:29 PM EDT
[#45]
I watched it one time and don't really give a shit and I've been drinking amd it appears the video has about 3 pixels but did the deadee try to grab the shootees gun right before he got shot?
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:53:03 PM EDT
[#46]
Can't we all just get along.
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:53:30 PM EDT
[#47]
While I feel for the guy that got shot since he was probably in the right on the custody he initiated physical contact with the shooter and threatened to take the gun and use it.
If the camera woman was the dead dudes wife, wtf |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:54:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fairly. But from the sound of it, the shooter was kidnapping his children. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well, Mr. 9mm carbine is going to regret that series of decisions...forever. Maybe not. Isn't Texas Castle Doctrine pretty forgiving for the home owner? Fairly. But from the sound of it, the shooter was kidnapping his children. Not adhering to some court ordered custody split, assuming there even was one, isn't kidnapping in the eyes of the state. Looked to me like the homeowner told the guy to leave. He started getting aggressive with him and his wife, so he went inside and legally armed himself. Dead guy gets in homeowner's face and grabs his gun. Homeowner could easily have been killed with his own gun if he let the dead guy take it. Homeowner also has no idea if dead guy is armed or if dead guy will continue to escalate from aggression to violence on his own, so I don't see a problem with him arming himself. Plus, in Texas, there is no obligation to retreat on your own property before defending yourself from deadly force- someone trying to take your gun from you, to me, is that. |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:54:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: On the one hand, Shooter escalated an ordinary argument by unnecessarily bringing a gun into the situation. Dead guy tried to call his bluff. Shooter wasn’t bluffing. Shooter is a murderer. On the other hand, Shooter told dead guy to get off his property. He didn’t, so shooter brought out a gun. Shooter didn’t point it at dead guy till dead guy got a little physical. Shooter then shoots dead guy. I’m actually gonna go with shooter on this one. Get the fuck off my property and sue me later if you want. But get the fuck off my property when you are uninvited or become uninvited. And definitely don’t touch me on my property when I’ve told you to leave my property. I reserve the right to change my stance as more information becomes available. What if you were there to pick up your kid and the shooter wouldn’t let you? ETA, was the kid even there? |
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Posted: 11/24/2021 9:55:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dumbass Beat me to it |
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