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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:14:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm looking at used trucks. Mostly Tacomas, but I keep coming across F-150s that look pretty nice. When I read the description of the drive train, they are tiny (2.7L) v-6 Eco Boost engines. Some are turbo charged. My question is this. How does a full size F-150 get out of it's own way with a 2.7L V-6 engine? That little motor puts 310-315hp and over 360ft-370 ft. lbs to the wheels. Yes, the wheels. Ford underrated that setup. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:34:42 PM EDT
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One of the most amazing motors around. It has tons of power. Twin turbo works. I have two of them. Wife and I both love them
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:38:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm looking at used trucks. Mostly Tacomas, but I keep coming across F-150s that look pretty nice. When I read the description of the drive train, they are tiny (2.7L) v-6 Eco Boost engines. Some are turbo charged. My question is this. How does a full size F-150 get out of it's own way with a 2.7L V-6 engine? The 2.7 is impressive. All the 2.7 engines are turbo charged. The 3.5 is even more impressive. Check out the tow ratings of the newest 3.5 F150 with the tow package....it'll blow your mind. My step daughter had an F150 with the 2.7 and it was fast and towed pretty well. Personally, I'd go with the 3.5 (what I have) but even the 2.7 is impressive. It's impressive what Ford did with their ecoboost engines. Try driving one..you'll be impressed. MPG is pretty good too with the ecoboost engines. I get about 20-21mpg on the highway (not towing) with my 3.5 ecoboost. The only negative to the ecoboost engines is they do drop a fair amount of mpg towing. I go from 20-21 mpg to about 14-15 towing my single axle trailer loaded with a RZR. We towed it to CO and averaged about 15mpg. It had absolutely no issues towing up hills in the mountains of CO. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:22:49 PM EDT
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Eco Boosts, 2.7 and 3.5 will smoke anything Toyota makes and get better gas mileage doing it.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:44:54 PM EDT
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I own a Sierra Denali with the 6.2 V8. 400 HP. AWD.
My friend owns an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. We raced. I lost. Badly. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:46:51 PM EDT
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I went from a Chevy 5.3 to a Toyota 5.7 to a 3.5EB. It’s a legit engine. My F150 tows better than either of my previous trucks.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:51:55 PM EDT
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The only thing I regret about my F150 is it was the first year in the 10 speed. I would have chosen the 18 on the lot instead of the 17. I should have done a quick google instead of listening to the salesman.
But other than that I love my 3.5 EB |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:54:31 PM EDT
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In dont know about the 2.7, but my 3.5 is a beast
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:03:15 PM EDT
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I have a 2013 F-150 with the 3.5 EB. It's been great.
On Friday I placed my order for the new 2-door Bronco with the 2.7L EB. That little thing is going to be strong with that motor. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:18:03 PM EDT
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Direct injected turbo charged. They go like stink.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:07:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eco Boosts, 2.7 and 3.5 will smoke anything Toyota makes and get better gas mileage doing it. The 2.3 ecoboost in my Ranger with nothing more than a tune smokes my buddies Tundra.  |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 6:52:02 AM EDT
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It's a solid engine that is holding up very well.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:47:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own a Sierra Denali with the 6.2 V8. 400 HP. AWD. My friend owns an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. We raced. I lost. Badly. Reminds me of the one and only time I took my F-150 3.5L to the track. I was late leaving the light, and still beat the Denali next to me to the 1/4 mile mark by almost 2 seconds. My engine has a tune that makes 435hp/456 ft.lb. So far (89K miles) the truck has been dead-nuts reliable. I hear that turbos start to wear out around 120K. We'll see. I don't run it hard very often. But it's nice to have some get-up-and-go when I want it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:05:00 AM EDT
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I don't own a F150 but do have a 2020 Ford Ranger with the 2.3L EcoBoost and I am quite impressed. Ford got it right with the EcoBoost engines. Even the Ranger has a good towing capacity of 7,500 pounds. I haven't towed much yet. The ranger doesn't even notice my 10x5.5 trailer and Honda Pioneer 500.
And yes I have put a few bigger trucks with their V8's to shame when leaving stop lights with my Ranger. I would not hesitate to get the F150 with the 2.7 or 3.5 EcoBoost. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:24:49 AM EDT
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The 3.5 has been a great choice for me.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:52:52 AM EDT
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My company has had about 4 or 5 of the 3.5 eco boost.
All have been great engines, until about 100K miles. First few we just noticed a loss of power but still ran fine. Had 1 that burnt out the injectors at around 3000 miles and had to have them replaced. My last one I used to pull a trailer to Colorado and back. Just a 12 foot enclosed trailer with a 4 wheeler in it. The engine ran the turbos almost constantly in the mountains to pull the trailer. About 2 months after I got home the turbos started to shake and spurt as though they were kicking in and out constantly. Truck had 98K. Needless to say, it has been traded on a new one. Yes another 3.5 as they do run great. We also have the v8 engine, never had an issue with this one but it is not as fun to drive.  |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 3:56:13 PM EDT
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I got a 2019 3.5 EB and so far so good. Good power and on average the MPH is 19 to 20.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 3:58:00 PM EDT
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I briefly had a 2014 F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost before I bought my 4Runner. It felt every bit as quick as (if not quicker than) my old 2012 Charger R/T.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:21:17 PM EDT
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Drove both V8 and Ecoboost back to back. Eco was definitely a lot more powerful but liked the dynamics of the NA V8 better.
Smoother and less gear hunting. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:46:43 PM EDT
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Wow. I never would have guessed that a 2.7L V6 would work in a truck that big. The only down side being that we keep our cars forever. This is why I was looking at the Toyota. My 06 Nissan Pathfinder has 194,000 miles on it and it starts up and goes everyday. I have had to replace a myriad of parts, and now the catalytic converter needs replacing. My wifes '14 Nissan Altima has 130,000 miles. So we keep these things long after their retirement dates. The turbos going bad around 100,000 has me worried. I will definitely look into it more though. Never would have guessed that it would be able to get out of it's own way.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:25:43 AM EDT
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I am a Toyota guy.
Understressed 20 year old tech that works and keeps working. My wife wanted a Ford a couple years ago when we bought her a new truck. That 3.5 10 speed combo is one of the most impressive drive trains I've ever driven. Only at like 70k miles so far, no issues, but who knows about the longevity. The torque it produces, and how close to idle it begins is nothing short of impressive. It put the same year, same spec truck with the 5.0 to shame when I drove them back to back. I'm an ecoboost fan now. I love V8s but it is what it is. I can't wait until Toyota releases their 3.5 turbo into their trucks. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:29:46 AM EDT
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I have a Ranger with the 2.3 Ecoboost. Same 270 HP rating as our 4.0l 4Runner but it feels like it has twice the power. Tons of torque and it toss sooooo much better. 5000lbs camper feels like a feather.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:34:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am a Toyota guy. Understressed 20 year old tech that works and keeps working. My wife wanted a Ford a couple years ago when we bought her a new truck. That 3.5 10 speed combo is one of the most impressive drive trains I've ever driven. Only at like 70k miles so far, no issues, but who knows about the longevity. The torque it produces, and how close to idle it begins is nothing short of impressive. It put the same year, same spec truck with the 5.0 to shame when I drove them back to back. I'm an ecoboost fan now. I love V8s but it is what it is. I can't wait until Toyota releases their 3.5 turbo into their trucks. The low end torque these twin turbos produce is where these Eco's shine, and where a truck's torque curve should be. Loved my old 5.7l Hemi, but I don't believe I'll ever buy a naturally aspirated truck again. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:21:48 AM EDT
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Max torque on the 3.5 EB:
420 ft-lbs @2500 RPM Max torque on my 6.2L L9H: 417 ft-lbs @4300 RPM Big difference in torque delivery. My only reservation about the EB engines is durability. I own my trucks a long time. My 5.3 2001 Suburban has 290k with the original engine and transmission, my 2008 Suburban 2500 has 207k on the original engine and transmission, and my Sierra Denali has 130k on the original engine and transmission. I know it's not an Apples to Apples comparison, but I just got a. 2020 Fusion with the 1.7 EB as my company car. We keep them for 100k. We'll see how it holds up to my, uh, "spirited" driving style. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:25:02 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: I'm looking at used trucks. Mostly Tacomas, but I keep coming across F-150s that look pretty nice. When I read the description of the drive train, they are tiny (2.7L) v-6 Eco Boost engines. Some are turbo charged. My question is this. How does a full size F-150 get out of it's own way with a 2.7L V-6 engine? 65,000 miles on my '17 2.7 SCREW. It's incredibly powerful when needed, tows like a dream, and my average MPG is 20-23, depending on season and usage. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:38:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Max torque on the 3.5 EB: 420 ft-lbs @2500 RPM Max torque on my 6.2L L9H: 417 ft-lbs @4300 RPM Big difference in torque delivery. My only reservation about the EB engines is durability. I own my trucks a long time. My 5.3 2001 Suburban has 290k with the original engine and transmission, my 2008 Suburban 2500 has 207k on the original engine and transmission, and my Sierra Denali has 130k on the original engine and transmission. I know it's not an Apples to Apples comparison, but I just got a. 2020 Fusion with the 1.7 EB as my company car. We keep them for 100k. We'll see how it holds up to my, uh, "spirited" driving style. 2017 -2020 3.5EB are 470 and 2021 is 500 ft lb torque. My 15 3.5EB has been great for towing. My 18 Fusion Sport 2.7 is 325 HP, 380 torque. 13.8 1/4 mile is a second faster than my stock 69 Roadrunner 383 was. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:56:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. I never would have guessed that a 2.7L V6 would work in a truck that big. The only down side being that we keep our cars forever. This is why I was looking at the Toyota. My 06 Nissan Pathfinder has 194,000 miles on it and it starts up and goes everyday. I have had to replace a myriad of parts, and now the catalytic converter needs replacing. My wifes '14 Nissan Altima has 130,000 miles. So we keep these things long after their retirement dates. The turbos going bad around 100,000 has me worried. I will definitely look into it more though. Never would have guessed that it would be able to get out of it's own way. I have not heard anything about turbos going bad at 100k. Mine has 113k and it runs great and still on the original turbos. Ford makes a lot of those engines so it’s logical they will see a few failures but it’s not a common problem. The main thing I can recommend on Ford ecoboost engines is to change the oil regularly and use a good synthetic....or Ford’s synthetic blend. Personally I change the oil around 5-6k and use Mobil 1 EP 5W30. There are other good oils out there to use as well. If I’m going on a long trip I change the oil before I go regardless of how many miles are on the last oil change. It’s probably overkill but the ecoboost engines do get some fuel dilution of the oil over time and turbos are hard on oil given their temps. More frequent oil changes never hurt an engine. If you buy an ecoboost used, just make sure they have some sort of records as to how frequently the oil was changed. Seriously, go drive one. You’ll be impressed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:41:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Max torque on the 3.5 EB: 420 ft-lbs @2500 RPM Max torque on my 6.2L L9H: 417 ft-lbs @4300 RPM Big difference in torque delivery. My only reservation about the EB engines is durability. I own my trucks a long time. My 5.3 2001 Suburban has 290k with the original engine and transmission, my 2008 Suburban 2500 has 207k on the original engine and transmission, and my Sierra Denali has 130k on the original engine and transmission. I know it's not an Apples to Apples comparison, but I just got a. 2020 Fusion with the 1.7 EB as my company car. We keep them for 100k. We'll see how it holds up to my, uh, "spirited" driving style. Torque on the wife's 17 3.5 is either 470 or 475. Can't recall. Hp is 375. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 10:15:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. I never would have guessed that a 2.7L V6 would work in a truck that big. The only down side being that we keep our cars forever. This is why I was looking at the Toyota. My 06 Nissan Pathfinder has 194,000 miles on it and it starts up and goes everyday. I have had to replace a myriad of parts, and now the catalytic converter needs replacing. My wifes '14 Nissan Altima has 130,000 miles. So we keep these things long after their retirement dates. The turbos going bad around 100,000 has me worried. I will definitely look into it more though. Never would have guessed that it would be able to get out of it's own way. 2.7 ecoboost (6.15 standard. 4.83 tuned) 3.5 ecoboost (6.32 standard. 4.36 tuned) 5 liter v8 (6.94 standard 5.44 tuned)  Can a V8 Still Compete in a Turbocharged World? We Tune & Drag Race Three Trucks To Find Out! |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 1:21:17 PM EDT
[#30]
My new 2020 F150 has the 2.7 EB and it's pretty impressive...325hp / 400 torque.
I get 23.1 mpg mixed daily city/highway driving and 25.5 mpg on long highway drives if I keep it below 70 mph and 23.3 mpg if I keep it at 85. This is with only moderate load of 500 lb or less. I chose this engine based on several Ford dealer mechanics I know who said based on their observation it's the most reliable (and oldest) engine currently available in F150. I keep may cars for long time usually 13-18 years / 250,000 miles and I'm hoping this one will last. My last Ford was 2002 Expedition with 5.4 Triton and it currently has 260,00+ miles on it and I still drive it at the farm. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 1:58:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My new 2020 F150 has the 2.7 EB and it's pretty impressive...325hp / 400 torque. I get 23.1 mpg mixed daily city/highway driving and 25.5 mpg on long highway drives if I keep it below 70 mph and 23.3 mpg if I keep it at 85. This is with only moderate load of 500 lb or less. I chose this engine based on several Ford dealer mechanics I know who said based on their observation it's the most reliable (and oldest) engine currently available in F150. I keep may cars for long time usually 13-18 years / 250,000 miles and I'm hoping this one will last. My last Ford was 2002 Expedition with 5.4 Triton and it currently has 260,00+ miles on it and I still drive it at the farm. Impressive. My 2014 SCREW 3.5 is rated at 365hp and 420ft lbs. your 2.7 has very similar specs and a 10 speed transmission. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 2:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My new 2020 F150 has the 2.7 EB and it's pretty impressive...325hp / 400 torque. I get 23.1 mpg mixed daily city/highway driving and 25.5 mpg on long highway drives if I keep it below 70 mph and 23.3 mpg if I keep it at 85. This is with only moderate load of 500 lb or less. I chose this engine based on several Ford dealer mechanics I know who said based on their observation it's the most reliable (and oldest) engine currently available in F150. I keep may cars for long time usually 13-18 years / 250,000 miles and I'm hoping this one will last. My last Ford was 2002 Expedition with 5.4 Triton and it currently has 260,00+ miles on it and I still drive it at the farm. Dynos show either those crank numbers are low or the 10sp is incredibly efficient. Maybe a little of both. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 4:05:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Great engines, but DO NOT NEGLECT OIL CHANGES.
I have a horror story that was driver induced. Since that problem at 43k, it is still going strong at 155k. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 10:34:06 AM EDT
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Like my Ruby Red '17 3.5 10 Spd MaxTow. Had it 41 months and just turned 11K miles. Probably like it more after break in.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 11:23:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My new 2020 F150 has the 2.7 EB and it's pretty impressive...325hp / 400 torque. I get 23.1 mpg mixed daily city/highway driving and 25.5 mpg on long highway drives if I keep it below 70 mph and 23.3 mpg if I keep it at 85. This is with only moderate load of 500 lb or less. I chose this engine based on several Ford dealer mechanics I know who said based on their observation it's the most reliable (and oldest) engine currently available in F150. I keep may cars for long time usually 13-18 years / 250,000 miles and I'm hoping this one will last. My last Ford was 2002 Expedition with 5.4 Triton and it currently has 260,00+ miles on it and I still drive it at the farm. The 2.7 ecoboost is the newest ecoboost engine for the F150 not the oldest. The 3.5 and the new 5.0 came out in 2011 but the 2.7 didn't come out till 2015. The 2021 engine lineup for the F150 are 3.3-liter V6, 2.7-liter and 3.5-liter EcoBoost twin-turbo V6s, a 5.0-liter V8, and a 3.0-liter diesel V6. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 2:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 2.7 ecoboost is the newest ecoboost engine for the F150 not the oldest. The 3.5 and the new 5.0 came out in 2011 but the 2.7 didn't come out till 2015. The 2021 engine lineup for the F150 are 3.3-liter V6, 2.7-liter and 3.5-liter EcoBoost twin-turbo V6s, a 5.0-liter V8, and a 3.0-liter diesel V6. The current generation of the 3.5 ecoboost was introduced in the f-150 for 2017. They did a redesign so the current one isn’t the same engine used from 2011-2016. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 7:45:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eco Boosts, 2.7 and 3.5 will smoke anything Toyota makes and get better gas mileage doing it. Are there any high mileage Ecos? Talking 300K? What maintenance cost to get it there? |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 8:03:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any high mileage Ecos? Talking 300K? What maintenance cost to get it there? They're out there. https://www.f150ecoboost.net/threads/300-000-miles-on-my-2011-eco-boost.28082/ Only normal maintenance for this one: Few in this thread actually. https://www.f150forum.com/f118/100-000-mile-2-7-a-389552/index24/#post6292982 
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Posted: 2/8/2021 1:32:04 AM EDT
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I bought a 2017 with 30k on it in December. 3.5L
I'm very impressed with it, and my last 2 trucks were Rams with the 5.9L and the other had a Cummins. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 1:59:42 AM EDT
[#40]
2.7 beats the 3.5 in towing and mileage...there's a video showing a fairly scientific comparison in colorado on you tube.
I just pulled a 21ft fiberglass bass boat 7 hours and went over the pass between OR and CA doing 65 mph with no issues at all. Pretty good for an f150 - Its not my old 2500 or F350, but it gets the job done . |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 8:38:04 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2.7 beats the 3.5 in towing and mileage...there's a video showing a fairly scientific comparison in colorado on you tube. I just pulled a 21ft fiberglass bass boat 7 hours and went over the pass between OR and CA doing 65 mph with no issues at all. Pretty good for an f150 - Its not my old 2500 or F350, but it gets the job done . The 3.5 has a much higher tow rating than the 2.7. I think they were only towing like 5k lbs on that video and we're doing a time run. The 2.7l does get slightly better gas mileage and is a little faster 0 to 60. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 1:37:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own a Sierra Denali with the 6.2 V8. 400 HP. AWD. My friend owns an F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. We raced. I lost. Badly. Do you even force induction bro.... 14 Silverado, 5.3, Mag blower, TSP cam AFM delete, TSP headers, stall, e85 tune, 3.73 front and rear, stock exhaust with electronic cut outs at the header, and a few other goodies but you get the idea. I can curb stomp my buddies 3.5EB that is tuned and all kinds of stuff done. 4 wheel auto is your friend for take off. |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 2:59:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. I never would have guessed that a 2.7L V6 would work in a truck that big. The only down side being that we keep our cars forever. This is why I was looking at the Toyota. My 06 Nissan Pathfinder has 194,000 miles on it and it starts up and goes everyday. I have had to replace a myriad of parts, and now the catalytic converter needs replacing. My wifes '14 Nissan Altima has 130,000 miles. So we keep these things long after their retirement dates. The turbos going bad around 100,000 has me worried. I will definitely look into it more though. Never would have guessed that it would be able to get out of it's own way. OP, I have over 170,000 miles on my 2016 F150 with 3.5 EB and no problems with the turbos or anything else. |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. I never would have guessed that a 2.7L V6 would work in a truck that big. The only down side being that we keep our cars forever. This is why I was looking at the Toyota. My 06 Nissan Pathfinder has 194,000 miles on it and it starts up and goes everyday. I have had to replace a myriad of parts, and now the catalytic converter needs replacing. My wifes '14 Nissan Altima has 130,000 miles. So we keep these things long after their retirement dates. The turbos going bad around 100,000 has me worried. I will definitely look into it more though. Never would have guessed that it would be able to get out of it's own way. My 2013 F-150 has the 3.5L EcoBoost, I'm up to 145k miles and still no issues with the turbos. It does need spark plugs a bit more often than a non boost v8, but there are only 6 to change  If you do proper oil/filter changes you won't have any issue with the turbos. All of my oil changes have been in the 5,000-7,500 range regardless of the oil monitor and only Motorcraft filters. |
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