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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:09:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People will suffer as long as they give this system control. That's it. It has absolutely ZERO power without people that consoom products, consoom media, internalize it, then vomit it back out everywhere they go. We are the prison guards.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxleyq7oGK8Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The system is designed to work against people. There's no bargaining with it or bending it to the will of the people. Until people completely disengage from the control we will suffer through its designs. This is true. Therefore we will continue to suffer. Hell the vast majority of GD enjoys and support their neighbor's boot on thier neck as their neighbor's paycheck has the address of some government agency. Then they will cover up thier own duplicity in thier situation, by saying things like I'm a law abiding citizen. Which they are not. But it makes them feel better I guess. People will suffer as long as they give this system control. That's it. It has absolutely ZERO power without people that consoom products, consoom media, internalize it, then vomit it back out everywhere they go. We are the prison guards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxleyq7oGK8 ...
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:19:00 AM EDT
[#2]
I will not be voting for an R again. It's a new party or nothing for me unfortunately.
The swamp is far too entrenched to redeem the GOP. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:19:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will not be voting for an R again. It's a new party or nothing for me unfortunately. The swamp is far too entrenched to redeem the GOP. 100% this. Anyone who believes otherwise is just a fool. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:21:05 AM EDT
[#4]
Hmmmm.
The United States starting to fracture into various splinter parties and groups? Welcome to the Weimar Republic! 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:21:47 AM EDT
[#5]
What we need is a party with a platform of transparency and leaving everyone the F alone
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:22:24 AM EDT
[#6]
What about a party within a party?
Sorta like the freedom caucus, but more formal even at the primary stage? |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:24:28 AM EDT
[#7]
I don't know why some are in such a hot-ass hurry to form a new party anyway.....Job one should be to kill-off the gop then we can see what rises from their ashes to take it's place.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:30:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why some are in such a hot-ass hurry to form a new party anyway.....Job one should be to kill-off the gop then we can see what rises from their ashes to take it's place. Well, what happened under Weimar was that "what rose from the ashes" was another ineffective party, and then another one, and then another one, and then this coalition, and then that coalition... ...until this one odd little party came along that FINALLY managed to unify the country. But that, uhhhh, led to "a few problems."
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:31:06 AM EDT
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I'm willing to bet the OP votes for RINO's because they're the lessor of two evils. Fuck That!!
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:32:33 AM EDT
[#10]
1) Fraud
2) Fraud 3) Fraud 4) Fraud 5) Fraud |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, what happened under Weimar was that "what rose from the ashes" was another ineffective party, and then another one, and then another one, and then this coalition, and then that coalition... ...until this one odd little party came along that FINALLY managed to unify the country. But that, uhhhh, led to "a few problems." Well unlike the square-heads most people here don't care if the trains run on time or not. 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:39:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not going to work because both parties will unite to kill a third party like they did with the Tea Party. The Tea party went tits up because they didn't stay focused in thier original platform. The instant they let the social issues into it by accepting the Christian Coalition in it was all over. They became the moral police again. They should have stuck to their platform. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:39:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It won’t work because of the terrible name. Agreed! |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:43:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well hello Mr. Democrat. Say bye to your freedoms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't care, I'm never voting R in a presidential election again. We've already lost them. Mark my words GOPe is going to try and ram Mitt Romney down our throats in 2024. I will vote 3rd party. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:43:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well unlike the square-heads most people here don't care if the trains run on time or not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, what happened under Weimar was that "what rose from the ashes" was another ineffective party, and then another one, and then another one, and then this coalition, and then that coalition... ...until this one odd little party came along that FINALLY managed to unify the country. But that, uhhhh, led to "a few problems." Well unlike the square-heads most people here don't care if the trains run on time or not. In all seriousness, though, what you see happening in this country today is NOT good. This IS exactly what happened in Germany under the Weimar Republic (which was also "a society in serious trouble"). This kind of internal political fracturing is a sign that there are deep cracks in the foundation upon which a given society was built, and is yet more evidence that America as we knew it for more than two centuries is in serious trouble. The arguments in American politics are not just about what color the drapes should be anymore. Now we are down to arguing about the composition of the Republic itself. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:47:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many are in office right now due to Trump and they wanted him out as bad as the Democrats. Pat Toomey (R-PA) was one of these. He got dragged in on Trump's coat tails and his original emails to us were obviously fishing to see if he should support Trump. It was obvious he hated him. I was not surprised to see him stab him in the back, |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:48:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Patriot. I hate that fucking word more and more everyday. +1 |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:49:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s all 99% of people have done for the last 80 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This! Never cut your nose off to spite your face!. That’s all 99% of people have done for the last 80 years. And that's what I will do when GOPe shoves Romney our way. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:51:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not going to work because both parties will unite to kill a third party like they did with the Tea Party. So just roll over and wait to die? The tea party was destroyed because it tried to work within the GOP It did not run its own candidates or have any true structure. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:56:05 AM EDT
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Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. Take a look at your local county-level Republican Party. See how many precinct committeeman, or whatever they call them, are vacant. Then fill those seats. Presto chango you are now a King Maker. Lots of counties can be had with just a dozen or so new faces. You don't start the purge until you see who comes along with the new order and who just has to go. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 9:59:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Tea party went tits up because they didn't stay focused in thier original platform. The instant they let the social issues into it by accepting the Christian Coalition in it was all over. They became the moral police again. They should have stuck to their platform. Let me tell you how the Tea Party died in my state. We had an election for Senate in 2014. In the Republican primary, the Tea Party candidate (a state legislator named Chis McDaniel) won more votes than our incumbent U.S. Senator (who had been in D.C. forever and never done anything for us). Quite a few more in fact, but not a majority. So we held a run off, and guess what the Republicans did. They openly recruited Democrats to come vote in the Republican run off, telling them the world would end if the Tea Party candidate became Republican candidate, because everyone knew he would win at that point in the general election. So a coalition of Democrats and Republicans (and the media, which took time from dog piling the Republicans, to dog pile the Tea Party candidate) and panicked lobbyists, killed off our Tea Party, and the do nothing RINO won the runoff and then the general election. The corruption resumed. That little incident had stopped me from voting until Trump came along and gave me a little hope. Hope now gone. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:00:47 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. You know a fake party when they want to run for president but won't try to take state or local races. Without that you are just playing a spoiler game. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:02:02 AM EDT
[#23]
Ha! Another person who thinks there’s any difference between the democrats and republicans. How cute!
Both parties are nothing more than self serving criminals disguised as politicians. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:03:17 AM EDT
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Partisan politics is a fools game. Harry Truman said, "There's not a nickels worth of difference between Republican & Democrat." The real battle is the Constitutional Republic vs Corporation USA.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:06:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Instead of a new party. Establish an endorsement group. Isn't the Tea Party the only third party that's currently viable? I mean when it was popular they actually were able to get on the ballot in a lot of states? Would say libertarian but if the right started moving to them they'd probably feel like they were getting overrun and we wouldn't let them streak at their conventions anymore. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:14:48 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let’s say a new party was born, the patriot party we have been calling it- whats to say the GOP filth wouldn’t just claim they were now patriot party members? Once a GOP always a GOP? Vote out ALL GOP members? Give dems control until this actually gets going? I don’t see logistically how it would work. THIS. Basically the electorate is split 40D, 40 R, 20/ independant. Form the NRP (new republican party) and you get 35% d, 20%%R, 25%I 20% NRP. D's win most everything because the new 3rd party has split the vote. BUT with ranked choice voting this is an actal option now days but ranked choice is also bad because those I's split 50/50 r/d and you get D victories everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:40:58 AM EDT
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It took the communist a hundred years to take over America.
They started with the culture, entertainment ,media (publishing,radio,movies,tv,music,sports) and most of all public education. It took decades to brainwash kids from once Christian families in the new values...the 60's was their springboard...they took over the hearts and minds. Those demons aren't going back into the bottle until the end of the age now. If Americans repent and turn from sin back to God and His Son then we have a chance...without God we have no chance. Those who hated us and vowed to destroy the America of our founders knew full well that driving a wedge between Christians and their Savior was the most effective way to destroy our country...they had countless examples to follow from the old testament. All they had to do is to see what God required of the human beings He created... and promote the opposite view (just like Satan has always done) Man's nature is sinful and rebellious...they simply tapped into it...even Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan... There was never a time in human history when this was done purposefully with the destruction of a nation in mind....that's unprecedented...imo |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:42:05 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Patriot. I hate that fucking word more and more everyday. Someone here said the real superbowl is between the Patriots and the Stealers  |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 10:47:00 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It took the communist a hundred years to take over America. They started with the culture, entertainment ,media (publishing,radio,movies,tv,music,sports) and most of all public education. It took decades to brainwash kids from once Christian families in the new values...the 60's was their springboard...they took over the hearts and minds. Those demons aren't going back into the bottle until the end of the age now. If Americans repent and turn from sin back to God and His Son then we have a chance...without God we have no chance. Those who hated us and vowed to destroy the America of our founders knew full well that driving a wedge between Christians and their Savior was the most effective way to destroy our country...they had countless examples to follow from the old testament. All they had to do is to see what God required of the human beings He created... and promote the opposite view (just like Satan has always done) Man's nature is sinful and rebellious...they simply tapped into it...even Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan... There was never a time in human history when this was done purposefully with the destruction of a nation in mind....that's unprecedented...imo Call me crazy but looking to divine intervention does not seem like much of a plan....You got a Plan B by any chance because I don't think we are going to "God" our way out of this one. 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:02:03 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS. Basically the electorate is split 40D, 40 R, 20/ independant. Form the NRP (new republican party) and you get 35% d, 20%%R, 25%I 20% NRP. D's win most everything because the new 3rd party has split the vote. BUT with ranked choice voting this is an actal option now days but ranked choice is also bad because those I's split 50/50 r/d and you get D victories everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Let’s say a new party was born, the patriot party we have been calling it- whats to say the GOP filth wouldn’t just claim they were now patriot party members? Once a GOP always a GOP? Vote out ALL GOP members? Give dems control until this actually gets going? I don’t see logistically how it would work. THIS. Basically the electorate is split 40D, 40 R, 20/ independant. Form the NRP (new republican party) and you get 35% d, 20%%R, 25%I 20% NRP. D's win most everything because the new 3rd party has split the vote. BUT with ranked choice voting this is an actal option now days but ranked choice is also bad because those I's split 50/50 r/d and you get D victories everywhere. which is why some sort rating & endorsement system is needed to go with any new party or take over attempts, also a system to block entry/eject members based on past voting record and/or current voting record. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:11:17 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Conservatives can’t even agree on conservative things. Why would they ever think that a new party would change that? This. Something to work on, for sure, but think about the left. They're trying to hold down numerous coalitions who at best don't care about each other under the unifying umbrella of "America bad and very racist/sexist/whatever". I don't think the right is in an appreciably worse spot for keeping their coalition under one tent. The issue is just that we haven't had the raw numbers in a while. But it wouldn't take much of a fracture on the left to repeat 2016. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 11:14:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha! Another person who thinks there’s any difference between the democrats and republicans. How cute! Both parties are nothing more than self serving criminals disguised as politicians. I'm not sure if there's a greater example of complacency than someone in OK making this argument. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:42:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. 1) It's best to start a new. Lest you be undermined from within your own party by previously corrupted individuals 2)You add people by subtracting them from the two existing party's 3)there are no guarantees on this. Evil dwells in the hearts of man. Just about any man made system will eventually succumb to misdeeds. You then have to start over. 4) Nonsense. The problem and demand has been here for a loooong time. Trump just filled a vacuum. He's not our God. 5)The Democrats just stole an election in broad daylight. They have the power for ever more if we continue with the status quo, two party system. You can come up with reason not to do just about anything under the sun. But the bottom line is, conservative values will never gain any momentum in the current two party system..in short..we have nothing to lose |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:59:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. 100% correct. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:07:26 PM EDT
[#35]
The socialist took over the Democratic Party. Constitutionalists and fiscal conservatives should do the same to the Republicans. You gain more than just a title. You gain the assets of the party when you take it over. Think about how much money and assets the Republican Party has opposed to just trying to establish ones own fringe group.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:09:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not going to work because both parties will unite to kill a third party like they did with the Tea Party. Nothing may challenge the Uniparty status quo. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:12:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. 1. should be ballot access laws |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:19:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) Fraud 2) Fraud 3) Fraud 4) Fraud 5) Fraud Beat me to this response. Did everyone already forget just how shady the election was????? |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:19:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not going to work because both parties will unite to kill a third party like they did with the Tea Party. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Tea Party go over run with establishment republicans, that's what killed the Tea Party. Well that and Paul-Bots.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:30:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The socialist took over the Democratic Party. Constitutionalists and fiscal conservatives should do the same to the Republicans. You gain more than just a title. You gain the assets of the party when you take it over. Think about how much money and assets the Republican Party has opposed to just trying to establish ones own fringe group. Sorry but that's a pipe dream. Globalists have taken power in BOTH the Democratic and Republican parties. Socialism is the agenda. There aren't enough constitutionalists and fiscal conservatives to take over the GOP. How long have people been crying about the GOPe? Nothing happens. You're regarded as a fringe element. President Trump was the last gasp for those of us who really did want to try and burn down * business as usual *. You see what resulted. Unity from elements of both parties to resist his agenda. We'd be better off to try and take over the Libertarian party and refocus it as a nationalist party. Open to ALL citizens of ANY race or religion. Fiscal conservatism, individual freedoms. Not white nationalism - American nationalism. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:48:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:56:45 PM EDT
[#43]
Pritzker's pal McCan ran a fake Conservative party in the gubernatorial elections here knowing it would only fracture the Republican vote. It was not needed as Rauner was such a turd he lost easily on his own but that was the idea. Now we're adopting the most BLM centric liberal education agenda in the country.
Third parties need to build ground in local elections before moving on to federal elections with a real chance of winning but they always want to go for the big prize first and as such will always fail. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:21:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Right now there is only one party in Washington DC. We need another party a second party.
The only reason some people are republicans is because they have no where else to go. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:23:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not going to work because both parties will unite to kill a third party like they did with the Tea Party. FPNI |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:56:47 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What we need is a party with a platform of transparency and leaving everyone the F alone I'm in the "live and let live"/"leave people alone"/"if it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg..." camp. Most people, including about 87% of the people here are "for freedom, but" (but they're not) and support their pet redistribution program(s). It's why we can't have nice things. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:06:07 PM EDT
[#47]
Why do people not pluralize the word socialist when obviously talking about more than one, ie: socialists?
Semi illiterate? Regional thing like warsh? |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:15:22 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives can’t even agree on conservative things. Why would they ever think that a new party would change that?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:16:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: As Ross Perot and others have learned you need a ground game in every county, district and state in America to win the Whitehouse. Just as the socialist took over the Democrat Party, Patriots should take over the Republican Party it would be a lot easier than starting from scratch. https://bongino.com/5-reasons-why-a-patriot-party-wont-work 1) If you can't take over the GOP, what makes you think you can successfully build a new party? 2) You win by adding people, not subtracting them. 3) What makes you think the party will stay pure? 4) It all revolves around Trump. 5) It means giving the Democrats complete control for years. 1 real reason: The Uniparty and their puppetmasters won't allow it |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:20:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's doubtful to work because unless Trump has some super secret Q bullshit going down right now, he's lost a good portion of his voters. Many Trump voters don't even like him, they just wanted the swamp drained at any cost. He appears to have left office with a lot of unexpended ammunition.. that's not a good look. Totally disagree. If anything, Trump and the America First agenda have even MORE supporters after seeing the disgrace of the election fraud and 1/6. I haven't met a single person who supported Trump and now doesn't -- EXCEPT for on this board and stories in MSM. Interesting. Don't AGAIN believe the media lie that now everyone hates Trump. |
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