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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:16:25 PM EDT
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Old Western Scrounger has both calibers but it's not cheap.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too. You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.  Funny, I have way too much .38 S&W! |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:29:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link to .32SW (not .32 Long) please. I can only find blanks in stock Normally not hard to find. Winchester, Remington, Magtech and Fiocchi all load it. Ammoseek |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:35:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny, I have way too much .38 S&W! It is fun to shoot. I have a Webley and a S&W I frame. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is fun to shoot. I have a Webley and a S&W I frame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny, I have way too much .38 S&W! It is fun to shoot. I have a Webley and a S&W I frame. I have an Enfield No. 2 Mk 1 that is in excellent shape. It just needs to be fed. I have 1 box of 50. I need a lot more ammo than that to have fun with it. 
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:43:52 PM EDT
[#6]
.32 rimfire?
 
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:47:11 PM EDT
[#7]
If you are going to shoot the old military rifles really need to reload. I've had both Japanese and British out this year. Shoot them at around 90% load. Both use same bullet and same load.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny, I have way too much .38 S&W! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too. You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W. Funny, I have way too much .38 S&W! I have 400 rounds of that weak shit and exactly one USP S&W model 10. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:54:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an Enfield No. 2 Mk 1 that is in excellent shape. It just needs to be fed. I have 1 box of 50. I need a lot more ammo than that to have fun with it. Steinel makes the 200gr British load. https://www.steinelammo.com/product/38-200-military-load/ |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 9:59:51 PM EDT
[#10]
.357 Rem Max would be nice to stumble across.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 10:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI have an 1860s Merein & Hulbert side break derringer that would love one of those. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 10:06:17 PM EDT
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Same here. Especially the way a several of the online dealers were selling large quantities of No4's and SMLE's not that long ago. Been in the hunt for some .303 150gr SP's for a while myself. Kicking myself for not keeping all the brass I had a couple of years ago.
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Posted: 7/21/2021 10:13:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steinel makes the 200gr British load. https://www.steinelammo.com/product/38-200-military-load/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have an Enfield No. 2 Mk 1 that is in excellent shape. It just needs to be fed. I have 1 box of 50. I need a lot more ammo than that to have fun with it. Steinel makes the 200gr British load. https://www.steinelammo.com/product/38-200-military-load/ Nice, I'm going to bookmark that for when it's hopefully off of backorder. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 10:47:17 PM EDT
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I am leaving tomorrow for the keys, when I get back I may need an EE post to see if anyone wants to buy the obscure that I have too much of!
9X18 Ultra (150) 9mm Browning Long (300) 9mm Largo (500) .38 S&W Remington (750) 7.63 Mauser (500) 7.62x45 (300) .32 S&W (100) .22 Aguila No powder (1000) Not so obscure but I probably don’t need as much as I have. 6.5 Carcano (300) 7.62x25 (1000) |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 10:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try finding 32RF I've got about 200 rounds 
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:01:58 PM EDT
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Local ace hardware stocks 303 Brit if you want me to get you some
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:05:22 PM EDT
[#17]
9.3x57
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am leaving tomorrow for the keys, when I get back I may need an EE post to see if anyone wants to buy the obscure that I have too much of! 9X18 Ultra (150) 9mm Browning Long (300) 9mm Largo (500) .38 S&W Remington (750) 7.63 Mauser (500) 7.62x45 (300) .32 S&W (100) .22 Aguila No powder (1000) Not so obscure but I probably don’t need as much as I have. 6.5 Carcano (300) 7.62x25 (1000) I have a case of Norma 9X18 Makarov that I got from a guy I worked with who mistakenly ordered it thinking it was 9x19 when he was drunk. I actually have no interest in selling it, but I do need a Makarov PM or a CZ82 to shoot it out of. Also open to a Stechkin APS. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:18:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .357 Rem Max would be nice to stumble across. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Try this one: 8x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:38:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
.357 Rem Max would be nice to stumble across. |
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:49:08 PM EDT
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OK, OK. All this talk of "obscure".
Find me one round, just one, in a condition suitable for display. .50 Warner. A friend's coworker has a Civil War Warner carbine with a single digit serial number. I want to get him a round to display it with. He has documentation of the ancestor who carried it, complete with a photo of the unit he was in, and his grave. He needs ammo. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 7:44:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which toe is your fucking toe? I've had ten all my life, and I've never used one for fucking. I guess my dick is too big? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Usually the second I give up looking for something I stub my fucking toe on it. Try that. Which toe is your fucking toe? I've had ten all my life, and I've never used one for fucking. I guess my dick is too big? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:18:39 AM EDT
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Anyone have any leads on some 11mm Murata?
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:32:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try this one: 8x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer I have cases of both Austrian & the r1939 azi proofed stuff on clips Try 8x50r (I make my own of both from 7,62 X 54r) |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:34:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have any leads on some 11mm Murata? Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have any leads on some 11mm Murata? Load your own. It's either that or buy loaded ammo from Gad's - but he'll use either formed cases (40-70 IIRC) or those exact RCC cases. Either way it won't be cheap. Quoted: OK, OK. All this talk of "obscure". Find me one round, just one, in a condition suitable for display. .50 Warner. A friend's coworker has a Civil War Warner carbine with a single digit serial number. I want to get him a round to display it with. He has documentation of the ancestor who carried it, complete with a photo of the unit he was in, and his grave. He needs ammo. Here you go. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:34:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .303, .35 Rem and .32 S&W are easy to source. Try finding 9mm Glisenti. I just received my 9mm Largo order from Steinl. Fortunately stocked up on 9mm Ultra before Covid. How bout some 9mm Browning Long?
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:35:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Try finding 32RF Quoted: Or .25 Stevens Long 
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:35:56 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Try 8 X 50r (I make my own from 7,62 X 54r) I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:36:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .32 rimfire is the hardest to find round I have tried to locate. I have not been successful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Try finding 32RF .32 rimfire is the hardest to find round I have tried to locate. I have not been successful. Convert to centerfire and shoot 32 colt. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:38:22 AM EDT
[#31]
As others have mentioned, I'd reload the 7.7 using cut down .30-06. I did the same for 7.92 Mauser when good surplus was unavailable.
For the same reason, I reload .303. Back when 7.62x54r surplus was dirt cheap I used it for powder and projectiles to reload .303. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:40:59 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. I have some enblocs of Italian made 8x50R. Willing to trade for some .41 Swiss rimfire or 11mm Mauser 303 and 7.7 are far from obscure. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:59:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. I've got an even more odd M95 Stutzen. Reparations post WWI, given to the Eye-Ties. Converted to 2" .410 and proofed as such in the 30's. Another 'roll your own' only option. I make all of my own old oddballs. Here's a pic of 11.15mm Werndl formed from 348 Win cases topped with 45 cal minié  the most obscure cal I have is 56-50 Spencer rimfire. I have exactly 1 original round fore my 1860 carbine |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:01:29 AM EDT
[#34]
Here's one I can't find - I could reload it if I could find appropriate cases or loading data for the inappropriate but common cases.
38 Colt Rimless Smokeless AKA 38 ACP |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:01:32 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have some enblocs of Italian made 8x50R. Willing to trade for some .41 Swiss rimfire or 11mm Mauser 303 and 7.7 are far from obscure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. I have some enblocs of Italian made 8x50R. Willing to trade for some .41 Swiss rimfire or 11mm Mauser 303 and 7.7 are far from obscure. 8x50 is laughably cheap compared to original 11mm Mauser and certainly compared to .41 Swiss rimfire. If you want to shoot either of those you're going to need to load your own - after converting the .41 to centerfire. Easy conversion what with how the bolt is. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:08:56 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got an even more odd M95 Stutzen. Reparations post WWI, given to the Eye-Ties. Converted to 2" .410 and proofed as such in the 30's. Another 'roll your own' only option. I make all of my own old oddballs. Here's a pic of 11.15mm Werndl formed from 348 Win cases topped with 45 cal minié http://www.newphillysports.com/milsurp/Werndlform.jpg the most obscure cal I have is 56-50 Spencer rimfire. I have exactly 1 original round fore my 1860 carbine Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. I've got an even more odd M95 Stutzen. Reparations post WWI, given to the Eye-Ties. Converted to 2" .410 and proofed as such in the 30's. Another 'roll your own' only option. I make all of my own old oddballs. Here's a pic of 11.15mm Werndl formed from 348 Win cases topped with 45 cal minié http://www.newphillysports.com/milsurp/Werndlform.jpg the most obscure cal I have is 56-50 Spencer rimfire. I have exactly 1 original round fore my 1860 carbine You can make Werndl cases from .348 Winchester?  Well that's going on the shopping list. I'd given thought to making a chamber sleeve so I could shoot it but making cases appeals much more. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:20:50 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: I was looking to find some 7.7 jap and 303 British.. Not looking for a shit load just enough to take some new things to the range.. Any suggestions on finding obscure ammo? @delemorte Aim has some Prvi softpoint 303 in stock |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:35:20 AM EDT
[#38]
Or 7,65 French Longue.
It's the poster child for obsolete pistol ammo. I have to load my own. 7.7 Japanese is easily made from. 30-06. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:43:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For you reloaders of the truly obscure cartridges, what do you do for dies? Take a chamber cast and have custom ones made? @Jayne_Cobb C&H(CH4D) Dies. They're expensive new, but because a lot reloaders aren't familiar with the brand, you can get them used for real cheap. I scored some 7.7 Jap dies for $12 on eBay last year. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 12:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How bout some 9mm Browning Long? I have 300 rounds of it if you are looking for it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 12:40:44 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Try 8 X 50r (I make my own from 7,62 X 54r) I do the same! Those of us with original M95 rifles who actually want to shoot them sure don't have an easy go of it. Every time I've tried to find components I get the same thing - "you mean 8x56mm right?" No. No I sure don't. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 12:41:42 PM EDT
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You .32 Rimfire guys:
- it’s difficult but if you reload, it’s possible to finagle Fiocci 9mm rimfire into something close to .32 rimfire (but you’ll need to replace the smokeless with an appropriate black powder charge). |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 12:43:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Ammo max has tons of .303
Gun shows for 7.7 |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 12:58:33 PM EDT
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Fyi it is easy the convert 9mm largo to 9mm NATO
I made a spacer to make to chamber length to 19mm from 23mm. It is steel ring cut from steel 9mm NATO shell and polished, to be 4.00mm. Pressed it into a cleaned chamber and it gives the 9x19 shell a solid support for the case mouth to rest on. Ring |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 1:11:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Try this one: 8x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer try Gunborker |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 7:55:26 PM EDT
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Got a buddy of mine who picked up a rifle in 35 Winchester self loading...... All I can find is about turning 38 spl cases down on a lathe.....
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:00:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fyi it is easy the convert 9mm largo to 9mm NATO I made a spacer to make to chamber length to 19mm from 23mm. It is steel ring cut from steel 9mm NATO shell and polished, to be 4.00mm. Pressed it into a cleaned chamber and it gives the 9x19 shell a solid support for the case mouth to rest on. Ring Cool idea. How well does it stay installed? The .308 chamber adapters for M1s are known for ejecting with a case. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:35:25 PM EDT
[#48]
38-44
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Posted: 7/23/2021 1:47:00 AM EDT
[#49]
6.5 Dutch for a Portuguese mannlicher is pretty hard to get. Found some on GB years ago.
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Posted: 7/23/2021 7:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.7 Arisaka was a pain in the ass to find and expensive even before the current craziness. You may have better luck finding it at local shows than online (at least, I used to). Oddly, Prvi makes brass for it but has never sold loaded ammo. If you're going to shoot a decent amount of old surplus calibers like this it's worth considering reloading. This is True. I felt like I got lucky early last year and found a few boxes 7.7x58 at Grafs and Sons. I have since grabbed some dies and bullets and have been saving my brass. Privi still makes .303 British and I see it for sale every now and then but it is not necessarily cheap. I have seen it at Aim Surplus and SG ammo but it does not last long. I also now have bullets and dies for that. Eta: the same .303 bullets will work for both as well as 7.62x54R eta part II:  Attached File |
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