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Posted: 7/21/2021 3:24:09 PM EDT
I was looking to find some 7.7 jap and 303 British..  Not looking for a shit load just enough to take some new things to the range..

Any suggestions on finding obscure ammo?
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:37:24 PM EDT
7.7 Arisaka was a pain in the ass to find and expensive even before the current craziness. You may have better luck finding it at local shows than online (at least, I used to). Oddly, Prvi makes brass for it but has never sold loaded ammo.

If you're going to shoot a decent amount of old surplus calibers like this it's worth considering reloading.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:38:41 PM EDT
Usually the second I give up looking for something I stub my fucking toe on it.   Try that.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:44:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
7.7 Arisaka was a pain in the ass to find and expensive even before the current craziness. You may have better luck finding it at local shows than online (at least, I used to). Oddly, Prvi makes brass for it but has never sold loaded ammo.

If you're going to shoot a decent amount of old surplus calibers like this it's worth considering reloading.
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Neither is a primary caliber.. Just thinking about making a trip of the surp rifles.. Seems like im paying out the nose for Jap ammo..

I found those previous links but wanted to ask incase i was just not getting it.

Thx yall
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:46:45 PM EDT
Never thought I'd see the day .303 was "obscure".  

20 years ago every shop had at least one or two boxes on the shelf for the guys hunting with their Enfields.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:52:35 PM EDT
Try finding 32RF
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:58:00 PM EDT
Or .25 Stevens Long
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 3:58:49 PM EDT
.35 rem
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:00:37 PM EDT
These guys have surplus 303 in stock, not sure if the price is decent or not. https://max-arms.com/product/303-british/
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:01:26 PM EDT
These guys kinda specialize in that sorta thing.

https://www.ows-ammo.com/ammunition
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:02:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sgt911:
.35 rem
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Wrong.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:03:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maddmatt:
Try finding 32RF
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.32 rimfire is the hardest to find round I have tried to locate. I have not been successful.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:09:54 PM EDT
Do you reload?

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:11:43 PM EDT
.32SW
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:18:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By delemorte:
I was looking to find some 7.7 jap and 303 British..  Not looking for a shit load just enough to take some new things to the range..

Any suggestions on finding obscure ammo?
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With the obscure stuff, it's usually a seasonal thing. Most places don't produce 7.7 Jap year round, so when you see it on the shelves you need to buy a bunch of it. Setting up in stock notifications is a good way to know when it's coming in as most places will get it in around the same time.

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:46:00 PM EDT
For .303 British:

Like someone said, ammoseek.

Keep an eye on sgammo, in normal times he has a lot of Prvi (good ammo).

Gunbroker always has assorted .303 for sale from rare & obscure types to modern sporting ammo.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 4:50:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MshakeMO:
Usually the second I give up looking for something I stub my fucking toe on it.   Try that.  
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Which toe is your fucking toe?  I've had ten all my life, and I've never used one for fucking.

I guess my dick is too big?
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:16:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Avidrook:
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This. Trim 1/4" off .30-06 brass, lube well, run through 7.7 dies, do a final trim. Time consuming but cheaper than tracking down 7.7 ammo, especially for small amounts.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:28:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

This. Trim 1/4" off .30-06 brass, lube well, run through 7.7 dies, do a final trim. Time consuming but cheaper than tracking down 7.7 ammo, especially for small amounts.
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Not only that, if you're loading for more than one surplus/C&R rifle, you should look into 'the load.' https://forum.castbulletassoc.org/thread/1387-the-load-is-13-grains-of-red-dot/

There are other variations of this, but it's a great way to keep things simple, utilize a powder which many of us already have around or is relatively easy to procure, and produce good plinking rounds.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:38:07 PM EDT
You can form the.303 British from .30-40 Krag but I suspect that this will only add layers to your problem.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:45:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:
Never thought I'd see the day .303 was "obscure".  

20 years ago every shop had at least one or two boxes on the shelf for the guys hunting with their Enfields.
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Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too.

You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:46:18 PM EDT
Norma makes some kick ass 7.7.
I also like the Privi brass for it.
Currently sitting on about 700 rounds of 7.7
Bought 500 Privi cases from Graf's.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:49:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By governmentman:


.32 rimfire is the hardest to find round I have tried to locate. I have not been successful.
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Originally Posted By governmentman:
Originally Posted By maddmatt:
Try finding 32RF


.32 rimfire is the hardest to find round I have tried to locate. I have not been successful.


That is pretty much impossible.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:49:15 PM EDT
Try finding the original 8mm Mauser round. It's .318 not .323 so I cast my own.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:50:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By delemorte:



Neither is a primary caliber.. Just thinking about making a trip of the surp rifles.. Seems like im paying out the nose for Jap ammo..

I found those previous links but wanted to ask incase i was just not getting it.

Thx yall
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Originally Posted By delemorte:
Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
7.7 Arisaka was a pain in the ass to find and expensive even before the current craziness. You may have better luck finding it at local shows than online (at least, I used to). Oddly, Prvi makes brass for it but has never sold loaded ammo.

If you're going to shoot a decent amount of old surplus calibers like this it's worth considering reloading.



Neither is a primary caliber.. Just thinking about making a trip of the surp rifles.. Seems like im paying out the nose for Jap ammo..

I found those previous links but wanted to ask incase i was just not getting it.

Thx yall


Let me help his subtlety. If you're ever - for the rest of your life - going to shoot more than 100 rounds of either .303 British or 7.7 Arisaka? Just reload. It will legitimately be cheaper than buying.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:52:03 PM EDT
.303, .35 Rem and .32 S&W are easy to source.  

Try finding 9mm Glisenti.

I just received my 9mm Largo order from Steinl.

Fortunately stocked up on 9mm Ultra before Covid.

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:52:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JVD:
Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too.

You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.
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Starline makes the brass, but it is currently backordered.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:55:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hayabusa1340:
Norma makes some kick ass 7.7.
I also like the Privi brass for it.
Currently sitting on about 700 rounds of 7.7
Bought 500 Privi cases from Graf's.
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I'd buy some 7.7


@Hayabusa1340
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:56:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JVD:


Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too.

You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.
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Originally Posted By JVD:
Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:
Never thought I'd see the day .303 was "obscure".  

20 years ago every shop had at least one or two boxes on the shelf for the guys hunting with their Enfields.


Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too.

You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.

I actually found an empty .38 S&W at the range within the last year. Somebody is shooting it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:57:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By delemorte:
I was looking to find some 7.7 jap and 303 British..  Not looking for a shit load just enough to take some new things to the range..

Any suggestions on finding obscure ammo?
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Steinl has a couple 7.7 Jap options.

Steinl
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:58:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rbarry3715:
.303, .35 Rem and .32 S&W are easy to source.  

Try finding 9mm Glisenti.

I just received my 9mm Largo order from Steinl.

Fortunately stocked up on 9mm Ultra before Covid.
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It's literally 9x19 lite. Source any 9mm brass and strike out the headstamp.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:58:20 PM EDT
Try Grafs for the 7.7.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:59:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:

I actually found an empty .38 S&W at the range within the last year. Somebody is shooting it.
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38 S&W is common.  

SG
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:00:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jayne_Cobb:

It's literally 9x19 lite. Source any 9mm brass and strike out the headstamp.
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I know but I don’t want to spend my time reloading.  Maybe when I retire.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:01:04 PM EDT
Savage .303 round nose lead
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:04:06 PM EDT
I would not necessarily consider either of those obscure

I am seeking .25 Stevens rimfire, for example...
(as well as 8mm Nambu and 9mm Largo and 7.63x25mm Mauser too)
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:11:13 PM EDT
For you reloaders of the truly obscure cartridges, what do you do for dies? Take a chamber cast and have custom ones made?
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:12:22 PM EDT
Do you reload OP? I can send you 50 or so once fired HXP 303 brass. No charge.

The round works with all the major powders in that power class, and it takes the relatively available .311 bullet. Same as the 7.62x39, among others.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:15:22 PM EDT
Before I moved out of MO a few weeks ago Prvi Partizan .303 was showing up at the LGS's. I haven't seen it since I've moved but it seems that some has recently been imported and should be floating around.

I'd have paid more attention if I wasn't so well stocked on Surplus .303.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:15:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rbarry3715:
.303, .35 Rem and .32 S&W are easy to source.  

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Link to .32SW (not .32 Long) please.

I can only find blanks in stock
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:15:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JVD:
Remington 303 was on the shelf a few years ago at Fleet Farm. Pretty sure I picked up some Greek surplus too for not a terrible price in the last 10 years too.

You want hard centerfire ammo, find me some .38 S&W.
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tons of .38 S&W on the shelves in local Dallas stores... try harder, 😆
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:19:20 PM EDT
Back in the day, Norma was the only 6.5 Jap I could find. Wicked expensive, and I don't see it anymore. Hording what little bit I have left.

That's fine, not like I grind out long range sessions with it, but its kind of sad that a lot of good C&R rifles out there are going to sit idle, since ammo is so hard to find.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:21:24 PM EDT
Y'all understand 38 S&W is different from 38 Special, right?

Just making sure.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:22:51 PM EDT
Before the craziness I bought a 400 round can of .303 off SGAmmo.  I still need to get gun that can shoot it.  

I think the most obscure caliber I shoot is 11mm Mauser but I only have 40 pieces of brass and I need to repair my 71/84 Mauser rear sight before shooting it again.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:40:36 PM EDT
PPU makes both. Wolf carries .303 Brit. Hit a fun show an check Mom an Pop gun shops. If you reload hit
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?18-Swappin-amp-Sellin
An find some brass.

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:44:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jayne_Cobb:
For you reloaders of the truly obscure cartridges, what do you do for dies? Take a chamber cast and have custom ones made?
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Most are available but for wildcats and oddballs I just buy blank dies and ream them.

If you don't have a lathe you can buy custom dies from CH4D and similar.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:04:48 PM EDT
Never found anything for this guy. Just want to take it to the range someday...

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:14:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NMwaterfowler:
Try this one:
8x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer
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I just bought 3 boxes of 9x56mm Mannlicher Schoenauer.  $40.  I don't have the rifle.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:14:40 PM EDT
I can’t find .22 hornet unless it’s $1.50 a round.  
Used to be a common cartridge.  Now rare.
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