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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:35:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:36:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:37:28 PM EDT
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Hopefully pilot is okay.
Glad it's a F35 instead of another F22 since we can just make more |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:37:34 PM EDT
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Any chutes?
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:38:09 PM EDT
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Well shit.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:38:19 PM EDT
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Damn, hope the pilot is OK
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:40:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:41:56 PM EDT
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Why can’t we make more F-22’s?
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully pilot is okay. Glad it's a F35 instead of another F22 since we can just make more I think more F35's have crashed and been total losses than F22's at this point |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:43:22 PM EDT
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Hope the pilot is okay.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think more F35's have crashed and been total losses than F22's at this point Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hopefully pilot is okay. Glad it's a F35 instead of another F22 since we can just make more I think more F35's have crashed and been total losses than F22's at this point I think the F35 is still the safest aircraft developed by the US in terms of incidents to flight hours. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:44:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:44:31 PM EDT
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That's a bad day and a lot of paperwork.
Hoping the pilot is uninjured. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:45:17 PM EDT
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Dang.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:47:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the F35 is still the safest aircraft developed by the US in terms of incidents to flight hours. Wide adoption = more incidents. I'm still glad it beat the Boeing frog looking thing. Now give me some F-23s |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t we make more F-22’s? I believe they destroyed the tooling. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:47:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think more F35's have crashed and been total losses than F22's at this point |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:49:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t we make more F-22’s? Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:49:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think more F35's have crashed and been total losses than F22's at this point It can happen when you have over 5x as many. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:52:21 PM EDT
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Thankfully the pilot made it out safely. Boeing is also relieved that isn’t one of their’s this time.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:52:30 PM EDT
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On the bright side, the ejection system works well.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:52:34 PM EDT
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Glad the pilot is alive and apparently well. I wonder who they are.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the F35 is still the safest aircraft developed by the US in terms of incidents to flight hours. It is from the research I’ve seen. People forget how bad the other fighter were. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:53:25 PM EDT
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Ouch. There goes 100 million.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why can’t we make more F-22’s? Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Not destroyed, some is in storage. The rest is used to make spare parts. Restarting the production line is cost prohibitive. Computers and sensor systems have come a long way since the 1990s. All of those would have to be updated. Funnily enough those systems are in the process of being updated in existing aircraft so... |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why can’t we make more F-22’s? Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. A lot of the people on the F-22 builds have retired, there are still plenty left though that have been on the F-35 project since inception. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is from the research I’ve seen. People forget how bad the other fighter were. A lot of men died when they were working the kinks out of the F-16. A downright preposterous number of men died in accidents involving the Century Series fighters. The F-35 has had an excellent safety record so far. But we seem to have become a civilization that does not tolerate failure. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:55:25 PM EDT
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Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 4:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Good Deal! It sucks to be you day, but alive is better! |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the bright side, the ejection system works well. Someone just joined a new club and will get a watch out of it. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:05:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ouch. There goes 100 million. Hello, USAA? I need to file an accident claim. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:08:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:12:41 PM EDT
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IIRC, more NAVY pilots died in training that combat during WWII.
From WeAreTheMighty: U.S. suffered 52,173 aircrew combat losses. But another 25,844 died in accidents. More than half of these died in the continental U.S. The U.S. lost 65,164 planes during the war, but only 22,948 in combat. There were 21,583 lost due to accidents in the U.S., and another 20,633 lost in accidents overseas. On average there were nearly 50 aircraft crashes daily in the US during the war. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:12:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hello, USAA? I need to file an accident claim. They wont respond to your claim for two weeks. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:13:41 PM EDT
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#Icanfixher…
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe they destroyed the tooling. That doesn’t mean shit. It didn’t appear by magic. Tooling is backed up by released engineering. We can make more tooling anytime. But why make exact copies of a 20 year old fighter? Even if we did, the tooling would be redesigned to accommodate improved design and processes. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:14:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Just stop |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit. Maybe he lost the engine? |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit. The pilot ejected, so the plane hit that spot on its own. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit. happened just after takeoff from runway 21 to the SW, in between I-25 and University Blvd. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:39:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: happened just after takeoff from runway 21 to the SW, in between I-25 and University Blvd. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit. happened just after takeoff from runway 21 to the SW, in between I-25 and University Blvd. Recognize that hillside quite well. Ouch. Glad the pilot was able to bail. Bet he was the one I hear spooling up just after lunch. ETA: I think that makes more sense if he was coming in for a landing? May have the wrong location in mind. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:44:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not destroyed, some is in storage. The rest is used to make spare parts. Restarting the production line is cost prohibitive. Computers and sensor systems have come a long way since the 1990s. All of those would have to be updated. Funnily enough those systems are in the process of being updated in existing aircraft so... So… what? |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So… what? So we wait until the next toy currently known as NGAD comes online. Should take a mere 30 years or so. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we wait until the next toy currently known as NGAD comes online. Should take a mere 30 years or so. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Recognize that hillside quite well. Ouch. Glad the pilot was able to bail. Bet he was the one I hear spooling up just after lunch. ETA: I think that makes more sense if he was coming in for a landing? May have the wrong location in mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Where that’s at, he was coming in way too low. Wonder what the hell happened. Coming in from the West and misjudged somehow? Seems like a weird spot to hit. happened just after takeoff from runway 21 to the SW, in between I-25 and University Blvd. Recognize that hillside quite well. Ouch. Glad the pilot was able to bail. Bet he was the one I hear spooling up just after lunch. ETA: I think that makes more sense if he was coming in for a landing? May have the wrong location in mind.   here's a video from the SE of the crash site.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 5:55:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why can't we make more F-22's? Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. I see this this brought up all the time referencing something we used to build at one point in the past and then stopped. The Saturn 5 rocket, the steel used in battleship armor belts, the F-22... Sure, it's somewhat true, but it's misleading. You know what didn't exist prior to building those machines? The tooling and the people skilled in making them. It's more correct to say that we don't restart production of those things because they've been superseded by newer machines and technologies, and re-investing in older technology would be expensive and have little or no return on the investment. m |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the tooling was destroyed and the men who built them laid off. Fail and no. Google, it's a motherfucker. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:08:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why can’t we make more F-22’s? Because the cold war ended, congress canceled new orders, and scrapped the production line. Never approved for export so they couldn't keep the line open. Lockmart learned from the F-22 program and judiciously spread F-35 subcontracts across influential congresscritter districts to make it unkillable by congress. |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:09:24 PM EDT
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I’m working on an F-35 project right now. My curiosity is piqued.
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:10:28 PM EDT
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 F35 Crash Witness (Randolph White) REMIX - The Remix Bros |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:18:46 PM EDT
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I was on base all morning, didn’t hear or see anything. Weird.
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