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Posted: 9/7/2022 6:49:49 PM EST
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My eyes just bled from looking at that weld.
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Posted: 9/7/2022 6:58:18 PM EST
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He's not an *actual* welder, but he can weld. It holds, and it's covered anyway, so it's good enough for me.
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Posted: 9/8/2022 7:52:21 AM EST
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That's one of the pluses of owning a Polaris.
You become more proficient at fixing off road vehicles. 
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:07:29 AM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:18:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: At least the bracket is what broke. Easy fix really. The parking pin in the transmission are known to sear off when taking it out of park into gear. It happens when there's too much tension while parked on an incline. It's rare. But a known thing. It's why a lot of folks put a parking brake on their machine. Takes the pressure off that pin when on a hill. Spring Brake Thingy (Parking Brake) |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 10:03:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 67Firebird]
[#6]
Ooh, I like the look of that. I think I'll do it. I really don't want to shear anything off the transmission.
Edit - Thanks. 
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Posted: 9/8/2022 2:35:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: At least the bracket is what broke. Easy fix really. The parking pin in the transmission are known to sear off when taking it out of park into gear. It happens when there's too much tension while parked on an incline. It's rare. But a known thing. It's why a lot of folks put a parking brake on their machine. Takes the pressure off that pin when on a hill. Spring Brake Thingy (Parking Brake) Interesting....I may look at that for my XP4 1k......I wince putting it in gear on any slope. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 4:19:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: Interesting....I may look at that for my XP4 1k......I wince putting it in gear on any slope. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: Originally Posted By aod886: At least the bracket is what broke. Easy fix really. The parking pin in the transmission are known to sear off when taking it out of park into gear. It happens when there's too much tension while parked on an incline. It's rare. But a known thing. It's why a lot of folks put a parking brake on their machine. Takes the pressure off that pin when on a hill. Spring Brake Thingy (Parking Brake) Interesting....I may look at that for my XP4 1k......I wince putting it in gear on any slope. If you saw the size of the parking pawl inside the transmission you would really wince, same thing for the reverse chain, bicycles have bigger chains.
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Posted: 9/8/2022 7:53:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: If you saw the size of the parking pawl inside the transmission you would really wince, same thing for the reverse chain, bicycles have bigger chains. The OP's ride doesn't have a reverse chain. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:06:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle: The OP's ride doesn't have a reverse chain. While I don't have the RZR 800, I'm pretty sure they do. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 8:57:44 PM EST
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I just ordered that brake. I don't want to break anything again.
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:06:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I just ordered that brake. I don't want to break anything again. Very easy to install. The neoprene lock nuts will not engage the threads again. I don't remember if the instructions say to, but I just put some blue locktite on the bolts. Don't over tighten. You don't want to mess up the master cylinder. I had to adjust the brake pedal for the latch. Easy task. All in the instructions. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:09:23 PM EST
[#13]
Oh, and remove at least your front sway bar on that rig.
It'll improve the ride immensely. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:32:11 PM EST
[#14]
Yeah polaris welding sucks. I’ve had to weld my driver seat retaining tab on the front twice. Twice because I’m not any better than the welders at polaris.
I also ignited my floorboard the second time. It’s real ugly under there.
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:50:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By aod886: Very easy to install. The neoprene lock nuts will not engage the threads again. I don't remember if the instructions say to, but I just put some blue locktite on the bolts. Don't over tighten. You don't want to mess up the master cylinder. I had to adjust the brake pedal for the latch. Easy task. All in the instructions.  Having a $60 discount was nice.Originally Posted By aod886: Oh, and remove at least your front sway bar on that rig. It'll improve the ride immensely. Here's from almost up to our pond, which the farthest point (trail loops around it), coming back to the house;  2021-8-15 Rzr ride Originally Posted By JohnSmith6073: Yeah polaris welding sucks. I've had to weld my driver seat retaining tab on the front twice. Twice because I'm not any better than the welders at polaris. I also ignited my floorboard the second time. It's real ugly under there.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 9:55:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: aod886]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I'll watch out for all of that. I almost ordered it from the link provided, but decided to take a look on Amazon, and found it there for $20. Having a $60 discount was nice.Scary. My rides are pretty mellow though, mostly on my trails here. (Less than ten acres). I drive it on the road a little, when going to my friends house. That's maybe 100 yard gravel, and 75 yards blacktop. Otherwise, I'm on my gravel driveway or dirt trail through the woods. Here's from almost up to our pond, which the farthest point (trail loops around it), coming back to the house;  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtlFLsmKkMEThe $20 ones on Amazon Keep the rear sway bar on to keep the "roll" at a minimum. Either way you can put the bars back on if you don't like it. Just gives the shocks full articulation. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 10:51:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: The $20 ones on Amazon I thought about that, and kept looking back and forth between the two sites. I couldn't see any difference at all. Metal thickness, spring, and paint job all looked the same to me. I guess the metal may be a lower grade, but it looked like the same thing. I hope it's just as good, if it's a knock-off. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 10:54:09 PM EST
[#18]
Well keep us up to date when you get it installed.
If you have any questions, please reach out. |
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Posted: 9/8/2022 11:45:34 PM EST
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Yup. Happened to me in my F150 several years ago. I was at the gas station. I tried to put it in drive, from park and it snapped. I’m a Florida cracker, so this was merely a slight delay in my travels. I grabbed a block of wood from the truck bed and stuck it behind the rear tire. I started the truck and then crawled under it to move the selector to drive. I hopped in the truck and drove away.
Two things: I did get a few curious looks from the cultured folks watching. As far as I know, that block of wood is still there. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 12:11:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By aod886: Well keep us up to date when you get it installed. If you have any questions, please reach out. Originally Posted By mustb123: Yup. Happened to me in my F150 several years ago. I was at the gas station. I tried to put it in drive, from park and it snapped. I'm a Florida cracker, so this was merely a slight delay in my travels. I grabbed a block of wood from the truck bed and stuck it behind the rear tire. I started the truck and then crawled under it to move the selector to drive. I hopped in the truck and drove away. Two things: I did get a few curious looks from the cultured folks watching. As far as I know, that block of wood is still there. I'm sure that was something to see. I'm a bit too slow-moving for such things myself.  |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 6:36:09 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: While I don't have the RZR 800, I'm pretty sure they do. The RZR 800 does not. |
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:40:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle: The RZR 800 does not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle: Originally Posted By aod886: While I don't have the RZR 800, I'm pretty sure they do. The RZR 800 does not. What years don't have it? I can easily look up reverse chains and transmission breakdowns with a reverse chain. [part 53] |
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Posted: 9/11/2022 11:33:34 AM EST
[#23]
If years matter, mines a 2008.
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Posted: 9/11/2022 5:29:15 PM EST
[#24]
I took a little ride earlier, and I think that I didn't have it pulled all the way into gear. When I got out on the road (near the end of the video), it started slipping, so I pulled over and pulled it harder into gear. It was fine after that.
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:14:57 PM EST
[#25]
@ 4:53, did you try shifting into high/low?
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:21:49 PM EST
[#26]
No, I just stopped, then pulled it back a little harder and felt it click into gear. It has a different feel since the changes, and I didn't have it all the way engaged.
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:24:30 PM EST
[#27]
Might have to adjust your cable?
Check that the bracket you welded hasn't moved too. |
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Posted: 9/11/2022 8:31:35 PM EST
[#28]
Now that I've run it some, I need to check the oil again. When I pull the seats for that, I'll also check the bracket. Everything feels tight though, so I don't anticipate any trouble there. It's always good to know for sure though, with anything new.
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Posted: 9/12/2022 12:04:00 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I thought about that, and kept looking back and forth between the two sites. I couldn't see any difference at all. Metal thickness, spring, and paint job all looked the same to me. I guess the metal may be a lower grade, but it looked like the same thing. I hope it's just as good, if it's a knock-off. For what it's worth, your actively shitting on a small American business to save a few bucks and there have been reported issues https://www.rzrforums.net/threads/buyers-beware-of-chinese-knock-off-spring-brake-thingy-on-amazon.573038/ |
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Posted: 9/12/2022 12:26:08 PM EST
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Posted: 9/12/2022 3:18:19 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: Might have to adjust your cable? Check that the bracket you welded hasn't moved too. I just pulled the seats and checked stuff. Oil level is good, and the bracket/weld are solid. I'll drive it more, before deciding whether there needs to be more adjustments. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 8:26:48 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: Well keep us up to date when you get it installed. If you have any questions, please reach out. I ended up buying one for my 21' XP4....should be here this week, install seems crazy simple |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:26:16 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jmo371: I ended up buying one for my 21' XP4....should be here this week, install seems crazy simple Very simple. Just bolts on the back of the master cylinder. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:48:58 PM EST
[#34]
Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I was looking at the pedals today. I'm guessing that it'll mount to the two lower bolts, one on each side of the brake pedal.
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Posted: 9/15/2022 11:00:25 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aod886: Very simple. Just bolts on the back of the master cylinder. Took like 30 seconds to put on  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 11:48:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: aod886]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I was looking at the pedals today. I'm guessing that it'll mount to the two lower bolts, one on each side of the brake pedal. https://i.postimg.cc/mk0BPGRP/2022-9-14-Rzr-Pedals-3.jpg Correct.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:33:08 PM EST
[#37]
Thank you. That will be easy to install.
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Posted: 9/18/2022 10:49:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 67Firebird]
[#38]
The bracket broke loose again today. I'm going to pull the seats and stuff, and see if I can figure out a way to improvise a bracket for it. I think it should have been bolted in originally.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 10:47:00 AM EST
[#39]
Both welds broke.
 I'm looking for a bolt-in option to span that gap, so it isn't torquing against the welds every time I shift. Maybe a straight piece.  Maybe something with even more support.  One bracket straight across would have prevented this from happening in the first place. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 11:51:06 AM EST
[#40]
Heck yeah man! I am with you on the old stuff too. Just did a cam swap to remove dod and could have never done it without help.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 11:52:08 AM EST
[#41]
If you need a bracket cut, give me length and even measurements on bolt holes and I will see what I can do.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 12:14:26 PM EST
[#42]
I'll check with my friend, and see if we can make a bracket out of these pieces I have or some scrap that he has, maybe tonight. If we can't do that, I may start taking measurements. Thank you.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 12:19:53 PM EST
[#43]
Sounds like you have a hard shift in your transmission. Might not hurt to have it looked at. My Polaris 500 gets stiff and has a bushing that needs replaced every so often. But on the other hand that weld was pretty poor. Can you reach the shift lever on the transmission and see if it shifts easily? If it's shifting easy it's likely the cable is bad but if it is rough and grinding the shift bushing is wore out.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 12:20:25 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: I'll check with my friend, and see if we can make a bracket out of these pieces I have or some scrap that he has, maybe tonight. If we can't do that, I may start taking measurements. Thank you. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 4:45:53 PM EST
[#45]
I'm having trouble figuring it out, because the bracket support would have to be three different levels. The front of the bracket is the medium height part, which drops down to the back of the bracket, then the shelf I want to bolt onto is higher than both of those.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 7:05:58 PM EST
[#46]
A good weld should be fine. Maybe weld a gusset in to reinforce it. I'm sure your friend wanted to be helpful but get someone who knows how to weld and it'll never come loose again.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 8:03:53 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ColtRifle: A good weld should be fine. Maybe weld a gusset in to reinforce it. I'm sure your friend wanted to be helpful but get someone who knows how to weld and it'll never come loose again. That's too bad it failed. But I agree with ColtRifle here. Should be an easy fix. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 8:06:11 PM EST
[#48]
His son is the welder, but he moved out a while back. That tubing is pretty thin walled, so I think bolting a bracket of some type would be easiest/best. I could also then deal with it myself, instead of needing help if there's a problem in the future. I just haven't yet figured out how to support it at three different levels.
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Posted: 9/19/2022 8:17:45 PM EST
[#49]
I guess I should explain better. I'm disabled, and due to health issues I gave up my drivers license and sold my car. I haven't driven since 2018. An *easy fix* of getting something fixed, especially more than once, means either repeatedly bugging my friends, or having a tow truck take my Rzr to the city to be worked on. That's at least $100 each way, plus whatever the repair costs, and when my Rzr is gone I can't take out the trash, check the mail, etc.
My friends don't mind helping, when they have time, but I don't want to be that guy who needs something every time we talk. If I can figure out how to bolt this bracket in, I can fix it without further bothering anyone, or paying hundreds of dollars sending it to the city. |
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Posted: 9/19/2022 8:18:06 PM EST
[#50]
Don't know if these pictures will help with ideas, but this is mine when I had the center console removed for something (I believe the winch install). All before the first off road trip, so all clean.
 Attached File Attached FileI still thing a good welder could afix it easily. |
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