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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:27:21 PM EDT
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Hmm, I restocked my Garand last year and I haven’t taken it out since. I’ve got 1k of 60’s M2 ball for it, so I have no excuse.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:31:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Deer rifle is a Weatherby vanguard in 30-06 DBM with a vortex Viper 4-12 and a sling it is a perfect setup for me Thats my elk rifle, using Fed. Premium 180gr Partitions. My deer rifle is a 1948 vintage Model 70 in .30 Gov't 06.  It seems to regular, cheap Federal blue box 150gr soft points. It wears a steel body Weaver K4 scope. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:43:06 PM EDT
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I like it!
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:51:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You must already know the when God first inspired John Garand (another canuck) to design the Garand rifle it was .276 peterson, not 30. It was the US Army that screwed that up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does your sister in law shovel snow? Can she cook? Does she clean the house and do the laundry? And maybe she makes Linda Lovelace look like a beginner. It was the US Army that screwed that up. Yeah, who wants ammo commonality between your bolt action battle rifles, that you have millions of, the M1906 BAR, and your M1919 Browning machine guns, with your new semi-automatic battle rifle? |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:53:08 PM EDT
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100% agree. Love the 30-06.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:56:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, who wants ammo commonality between your bolt action battle rifles, that you have millions of, the M1906 BAR, and your M1919 Browning machine guns, with your new semi-automatic battle rifle? This was pre ww2, and the us was looking at a different rifle and caliber, so commonality meant jack shit at the time. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 6:59:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice, I just picked up an 03-A3 in December to go with my Garands.  |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:00:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A hundred years from now people will still be shooting the 6.5x55mm and the 30-06. And by then the 6.8 SOO will be long forgotten. You forgot 7.62x54 . I believe it's the longest serving military cartridge in the world . |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:03:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was pre ww2, and the us was looking at a different rifle and caliber, so commonality meant jack shit at the time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, who wants ammo commonality between your bolt action battle rifles, that you have millions of, the M1906 BAR, and your M1919 Browning machine guns, with your new semi-automatic battle rifle? This was pre ww2, and the us was looking at a different rifle and caliber, so commonality meant jack shit at the time. I think you're confused, all of those guns were in the inventory in our arsenals between the wars because they were used in World War 1 or soon there after |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:15:44 PM EDT
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Love my 30-06 rifles.
  
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:20:48 PM EDT
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It’s a great caliber though it’s roots are the Mauser cartridge. 375 Holland does everything the ‘06 can do with the same bullet drop but cover more game. The problem isn’t that the ‘06 is bad, the problem is it’s long associated as a fudd caliber and shooting one makes you a fudd(to many).
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Username checks out.  I'd argue 5.56 is a better all-around cartridge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You won't find a better all-around cartridge, child.  I'd argue 5.56 is a better all-around cartridge.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got my Dads old Model 70 Featherweight that I'm going to tune up for deer season this year. The Answer sounds perfect. Thanks OP I inherited a Model 70 from my Dad as well. He bought it back in the early 80s, shot it a couple times to site it in, shot two deer with it and put it in the safe. I cleaned it up, took it out to shoot it and stock cracked. So I need a new stock and want to put a scope on it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 7:49:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only 30-06 I have is a M1 Garand made in 1941. Somehow I feel like this is fitting. I've killed a lot of animals over the years, but never with a 30-06. For anything deer sized and smaller I prefer a .270 or less. For anything elk sized and bigger I really prefer something larger than the 06. It's a great cartridge, but IMO their are better options these days. Very true, but the 30-06, the 30-30, and .22 is just plain old American as fuhk. One of the gun writers put together an article stating that a man should have three rifles for all of North American hunting 'needs'. Something smaller for thin skinned animals. Deer/Pronghorn/Elk?/etc. I like personally like the 7mm-08 for that role, and I recognize the .260 & .243 make for great light-weight rifles for that too. This is the gun you'd be using most, so no need for shoulder pounding larger calibers. Something for Large/Dangerous game. Moose/Elk/Bear/etc. 300 Win Mag, .338, or the like works. I don't believe you'd be shooting too much with these larger calibers. Then something for varmints. Coyote/Prairie Dogs/etc. I haven't shot or even read much about this category, so fill in your own calibers. With all that said, I don't have ANY experience on shooting stuff larger than a Whitetail Buck and I have a 30-06, a 30-30, a 12GA slug barrel, and .50cal M/L for that. I'll eventually use my AR for this for myself one of these days. Heck my son has taken his first deer with my AR - The only kill that gun has under its belt. Sorry for the hy-jack. I love my Encore's 30-06 barrel and the hand-loaded 150GR Sierra Game Kings loaded up with 58.5gr. of IMR4350. 3/4" at 100yds. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:07:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:19:40 PM EDT
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First bolt gun I bought was a savage 30.06
Re barreled it in .308 Sold it for some reason. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How well does 5.56 handle bear? Aught-six does right well on blacks, and will certainly be better than any .22 ever built on browns and polar. For ethical bear hunting, I absolutely agree with you. I would still bet money and my life on a 5.56 mag dump vs. any bear though, and it’s a little more versatile for other purposes. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:25:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:28:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Regardless of what anyone says, it is the overall best rifle cartridge ever produced. Well....that’s quite a statement. Off for more research....... |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:30:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The .30-06 is God's caliber. I agree! I have a Lyman Receiver sight on my Mauser 3006 and a 6x scope on my Remy 700 .270 win.(necked down 3006! LOL!) (At one point I thought about rebarreling the .270 to .35 Whelen but the 06 is almost perfect!) ETA: I shoot 130gr in my 270. But I can/do shoot anything from 110gr to 220gr in my 06. I even have some 220gr Berger bronze solids I can load up for "dangerous" game. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:31:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For ethical bear hunting, I absolutely agree with you. I would still bet money and my life on a 5.56 mag dump vs. any bear though, and it’s a little more versatile for other purposes. Ive hunted quite successfully with 556 for deer. Its definitely not my 1st, or 10th choice. It works and Ive never lost a deer because of it but it is suboptimal. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .270 better |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:40:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For ethical bear hunting, I absolutely agree with you. I would still bet money and my life on a 5.56 mag dump vs. any bear though, and it’s a little more versatile for other purposes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How well does 5.56 handle bear? Aught-six does right well on blacks, and will certainly be better than any .22 ever built on browns and polar. For ethical bear hunting, I absolutely agree with you. I would still bet money and my life on a 5.56 mag dump vs. any bear though, and it’s a little more versatile for other purposes. I personally believe that the AR-15 makes for an excellent survival rifle. -Adjustable stock for multiple shooters and clothing requirements ? Check. -Taylor your bullets for task specific requirements ? Check. -Swap out your red-dot with pre-sighted in hunting scope and then back again ? Check. [ Thx to LaRue who damn-near perfected that market ] -Install .22 conversion kit and a pre-sighted in red-dot for small game ? Check. -Pre-Threaded barrels for... reasons. Check. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:42:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive hunted quite successfully with 556 for deer. Its definitely not my 1st, or 10th choice. It works and Ive never lost a deer because of it but it is suboptimal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For ethical bear hunting, I absolutely agree with you. I would still bet money and my life on a 5.56 mag dump vs. any bear though, and it’s a little more versatile for other purposes. Ive hunted quite successfully with 556 for deer. Its definitely not my 1st, or 10th choice. It works and Ive never lost a deer because of it but it is suboptimal. Shot placement is more of a factor, no doubt. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:48:09 PM EDT
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Sorry again for the hy-jack.
I really like the shoulder thump of my 30-06. Not as brutal as the 12GA slug / Turkey load, or timid as the 5.56. It's 'Just Right'. 
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was pre ww2, and the us was looking at a different rifle and caliber, so commonality meant jack shit at the time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, who wants ammo commonality between your bolt action battle rifles, that you have millions of, the M1906 BAR, and your M1919 Browning machine guns, with your new semi-automatic battle rifle? This was pre ww2, and the us was looking at a different rifle and caliber, so commonality meant jack shit at the time. Douglas MacArthur put his foot down because of all the 30-06 still in stock, left over from WW1. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:56:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got my Dads old Model 70 Featherweight that I'm going to tune up for deer season this year. The Answer sounds perfect. Thanks OP |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Regardless of what anyone says, it is the overall best rifle cartridge ever produced. Nope, it WAS one of the best cartridges, at one time. If you have one, keep it and shoot game with it. If buying a new rifle today, there are much better choices. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the weapon weight, bullet mass, and muzzle velocity is equal there is no difference. Physics and all that jive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can absolutely tell the difference in Recoil between the two and don't consider myself to be real shy either. I believe I read somewhere that it was measured at around 17% difference in recoil using the same weight bullet. That's not a ton but it's also not insignificant either. If the weapon weight, bullet mass, and muzzle velocity is equal there is no difference. Physics and all that jive. Well the one thing you haven't considered is that the .308 uses less powder to achieve the same velocities while using the exact same bullets. With some powder and bullet combos in the 150-165 grain range, the .308 is conspicuously faster using less powder. In short, less big boom magic dust to go the same speed equals less hurt from death stick.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:42:33 PM EDT
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I like my .30-06. My main deer rifle. Accurate as heck. It's an old Remington, with tweaked trigger, bedded action and barrel. I handload 150g Nosler BT (forget what powder at the moment) but I put three rounds in the diameter of a dime at 100 yrds a few years ago. Posted them here a long time ago. I'll have to find that picture.
150g for longer range, flat shooting and up to 220 grain for busting through WUT-EVAR.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:52:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:37:16 PM EDT
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100 years ago 06 was great
Today 06 is great And I suspect, 100 years from now as people on the internet argue whether it's better to neck up 22 squirrelblstr or more efficient to cut and reform 338 superbloot to make brass for their long out of production 6.5 meme, you'll still be able to go to space Walmart buy a box of freaking 30-06 corelokts and kill the hell or if moon deer. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:51:42 PM EDT
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My last rifle build was a 30-06. Mauser.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:53:41 AM EDT
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in the non fiction novel "Time Safari" 30-06 ball using a Garand was the recommended personal weapon for use against T-Rex and the other less squishy Dinos.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:58:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: in the non fiction novel "Time Safari" 30-06 ball using a Garand was the recommended personal weapon for use against T-Rex and the other less squishy Dinos. It's all about shot placement
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:04:58 AM EDT
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I love the 06 and have several to include a pre 64 Win M70, but give me a 270 with a 130gr Barnes over 61 grains of H4831 at 3150 FPS and there ain't nothing safe on this continent.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:08:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The .30-06 is God's caliber. And the choir said "Amen!". |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:13:06 AM EDT
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No use for it in my collection at this time. I’ve already got 30 caliber covered.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:17:18 AM EDT
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.308 does everything almost as well.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:57:51 AM EDT
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The only two guns I ever bought at a gun show were both .30-06. First, a 1943 M1 Garand with CMP stamped stock. Then, a few months later, a Mossberg 100 bolt action with a variable power Bushnell scope, which was a ton of fun for hunting wild hogs.
I hadn't even built my first AR yet, and shamefully didn't really know what made them so desirable. I figured they were the overpriced gimmick (based on gun show prices) that scared leftists for irrational reasons. It wasn't until PSA helped me understand the value of being able to use bulk milsurp cartridges and build rifles cheaply from parts kits that I figured it out. I had been handloading IMR4895 to roughly M2 specs for the Garand with a Lee hand press, as supplies of genuine M2 milsurp ammo were almost gone when I got started. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:37:55 AM EDT
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All the cool kids love .30-06. Perfect round, as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 5:45:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @silverknife1 The Berger 230 OTM fits at mag length.... well.. I load at about 2.830" but could go shorter with maybe a tiny bit of ogive going into the neck. With W748(41.55gr******) in Lapua brass, Wolf LRP I get about 2300fps out of my 19.75" R700(10 twist). The 3.245" single feed load(.010" off the lands) with the same but using W760(47.7gr ******) gets around 2370-2420fps, it's temp sensitive but still holds groups. These are both about 5k psi over my 175SMK at 2620fps and 7k psi over the 175SMK at 2550fps as measured by my PressureTraceII. *******Don't use this exact load! Work up! your chamber, free bore, case cap, temp, bullet coating, etc. will all effect pressure. These are loads made up 100% by me, I don't use loading manuals for obvious reason. @popnfresh Lol I don’t have any 748 and even if I could get any these days, I’m not that dumb. Thanks for the info. Have you played with the 190-220 gr stuff at all? Opinions/ real data vs the 230s? ATM my experience stops at 175gr |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only two guns I ever bought at a gun show were both .30-06. First, a 1943 M1 Garand with CMP stamped stock. Then, a few months later, a Mossberg 100 bolt action with a variable power Bushnell scope, which was a ton of fun for hunting wild hogs. I hadn't even built my first AR yet, and shamefully didn't really know what made them so desirable. I figured they were the overpriced gimmick (based on gun show prices) that scared leftists for irrational reasons. It wasn't until PSA helped me understand the value of being able to use bulk milsurp cartridges and build rifles cheaply from parts kits that I figured it out. I had been handloading IMR4895 to roughly M2 specs for the Garand with a Lee hand press, as supplies of genuine M2 milsurp ammo were almost gone when I got started. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:03:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:07:38 PM EDT
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I am continually disappointed in the fact that no one makes a “tactical” bolt action .30-06
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wish I had bought one when I could |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:14:17 PM EDT
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It's not something I need, but for some reason I still really want this;
Noreen Firearms .30-06 The magazine prices though!   |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 8:55:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The .30-06 is God's caliber. I've been meaning to pick up a R700 in 30-06. Where is a good place to find them these days? Looking mainly for the action as I want to put it in a Magpul Hunter or chassis. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 8:56:44 PM EDT
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