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Posted: 7/2/2021 4:57:13 PM EDT
I saw this on Reddit. Though I would have dismissed it years ago, with Elizondo’s comments, I am interested in what it might mean. Does anyone have experience or knowledge here?
(Click to enlarge.) https://www.dailypioneer.com/2021/sunday-edition/what-exists-beneath.html |
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Never heard of it. Where did the poster say that document came from?
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Quoted: Never heard of it. Where did the poster say that document came from? View Quote The FBI vault, https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/ufos-and-the-guy-hottel-memo |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Never heard of it. Where did the poster say that document came from? The FBI vault, https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/ufos-and-the-guy-hottel-memo The fun part is going through the thousands of pages of documents to separate the wheat from the chaff, and there is a LOT of chaff they throw out with it. MSM will never do that job for us so it's down to crowd sourcing and volunteers taking various blocks to look through and post anything if interest, then those are summarized and put back out on major forums. I lost my taste for looking for needles in a pile of needles (what looking for 'geod' reports is like) but seems somebody else is on the job. The Lokes or Tales brought me to one page that explains 'Loki', the trickster demon, comes from Lokes, but doesn't define Lokes. The One site that did try to summarize these is Here Here's an except of that site's intro (Many words are hyperlinked o other sites or within the site, like Wikipedia): Lokas or Talas is a concept in Hindu mythology that refers to alternate worlds or realities, and in the simplest context (but highly inaccurate) multiple dimensions. These worlds are explained in Prajapati, and later expanded in Theosophy. The concept was later picked up in a classified US document called Memorandum 6751. CERN then builds the Large Hadron Collider, (so-to-speak) to spec, from theosophist Helena Blavatsky's Kosmic planes in her 1888, The Secret Doctrine. In 1888, the The Secret Doctrine by Helena Blavatsky, was published in two volumes: Cosmogenesis and Anthropogenesis. Her research focused on the esoteric cosmology derived from ancient Sanskrit writings. She drafted many diagrams and produced a plethora of research notes on the Hindu subject of Lokas or Talas (dimensional worlds). Much of her work was later sought after by various secret societies. In 1947, a US government official identified Supernormal beings coming from a Lokas or Talas that was explained in a disclosure document, declassified in 2010, as Memorandum 6751 *.[1] (See full analysis of Memorandum 6751 * at The Conspiracy Wiki). Future Circular Collider From 1971 to 2009, CERN seemingly plucked the pages right out of Blavatsky's playbook The Secret Doctrine to build the Large Hadron Collider, with a Future Circular Collider on the way. The agenda, according to the Director Sergio Bertolucci, is to open a dimensional door, so that "Out of this door might come something".[2] Interconnecting worlds Seven Oresme celestial spheres The Egyptian Djed pillar, the backbone of Osiris. typically seven Chakras, morphological vortices The term loka and its counterpart tala are Sanskrit words widely used in metaphysical systems of India. The general (but not exclusive) meaning of loka is "spiritual world," and the general meaning of tala is "material world." They are both in contrast and at the same time in conjunction with each other. Every loka has as its twin, or counterpart, a tala. Wherever there is a loka, there is an exact corresponding tala. The tala is the nether pole of its corresponding loka. Lokas and talas are considered to be the spiritual and the material aspects or substance-principles of the different worlds in the cosmic universe. It is impossible to separate a tala from its corresponding loka — quite as impossible as it would be to separate the two poles of electricity. The number of Lokas and Talas are generally seven. For every seven lokas, there are seven talas. A loka is considered the spiritual pole, where the tala is the material pole acting as the element of its corresponding loka or principle. Therefore, the concept functions as a hierachy, where the lokas are the principles of a hierarchy, and the talas, in exactly the same way, are the elements or substantial or material aspects of the hierarchy. All seven lokas and all corresponding talas are continuously and inextricably interblended and interworking; and that the lokas and the talas working together form the universe and its various subordinate hierarchies that encompass life. The higher lokas with the higher talas are the forces or energies and substantial parts of the spiritual and ethereal worlds; the lowest lokas and their corresponding talas form the forces or energies and substantial parts of the physical world surrounding us; and the intermediate lokas with their corresponding talas form the respective energies and substantial parts of the intermediate or ethereal realms.[3 (Continued at link...) * Page shown in OP IS Memo 6751 |
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Seems like the concepts of heaven and hell, karma, nirvana, etc, all kind of blend together into an extra dimensional concept. Bad people devolve to a worse realm. Good people move on to a better one. Everyone wants to move up the line.
From that report, I surmise that beings from a “darker” dimension want to colonize ours? |
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Would seem like they couldn't really colonize. If the worlds are inseparable and are the polar opposite I would assume visiting one to the other would make permanent occupation not sustainable. Maybe they want to blend them together.
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Quoted: Seems like the concepts of heaven and hell, karma, nirvana, etc, all kind of blend together into an extra dimensional concept. Bad people devolve to a worse realm. Good people move on to a better one. Everyone wants to move up the line. From that report, I surmise that beings from a “darker” dimension want to colonize ours? View Quote Which goes back to a lot of things you and I have discussed here, the idea that these ‘aliens’ are demons. |
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Quoted: Which goes back to a lot of things you and I have discussed here, the idea that these ‘aliens’ are demons. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seems like the concepts of heaven and hell, karma, nirvana, etc, all kind of blend together into an extra dimensional concept. Bad people devolve to a worse realm. Good people move on to a better one. Everyone wants to move up the line. From that report, I surmise that beings from a “darker” dimension want to colonize ours? Which goes back to a lot of things you and I have discussed here, the idea that these ‘aliens’ are demons. I think it really supports the idea. Earth is a material plane, somewhere in the middle of lighter and darker places. Some faiths have simply three levels, darkness, Earth, Lightness. (Heaven and hell). Others have 7 circles or levels for each. Even new world societies have the concepts of an under and over world. No matter how far we fo back in history, there is the same concept with different names and different entities from each. All have a “spirit” realm that overlays our own, with beings that can materialize into reality. It’s the same story. Another point on the nature of what is being seen; In The Bible, Leviticus 20 warns against mediums and necromancy. CE5 is essentially that, talking to ETs through prayer and meditation. Psychic contact with another realm. And people that do that claim to experience non human intelligence interaction. It’s as if there is motivation for entities from the “dark” to want to be here, because it’s a better existence, and a stopping point for moving into the light. All faith have that concept of moving up or down a hierarchy of existence through faith or acts. |
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Quoted: Would seem like they couldn't really colonize. If the worlds are inseparable and are the polar opposite I would assume visiting one to the other would make permanent occupation not sustainable. Maybe they want to blend them together. View Quote That’s a great point. Possession, manifestations… how does that apply I wonder? |
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The part in the memo that mentioned "vibrancy" struck a cord. I was always fascinated that Tesla said the entire key to the universe/time/travel/dimensions was hitting the proper vibration...
ETA - I think Tesla actually used the term "frequency"... |
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Quoted: The part in the memo that mentioned "vibrancy" struck a cord. I was always fascinated that Tesla said the entire key to the universe/time/travel/dimensions was hitting the proper vibration... ETA - I think Tesla actually used the term "frequency"... View Quote Indeed. I believe I read about this phenomenon in one of the Montauk books. Definitely not the first book but maybe the Black Sun one. |
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Quoted: The part in the memo that mentioned "vibrancy" struck a cord. I was always fascinated that Tesla said the entire key to the universe/time/travel/dimensions was hitting the proper vibration... ETA - I think Tesla actually used the term "frequency"... View Quote He tuned Tesla coils across many many different frequencies to get optimal performance, depending on size, best is 30 kHz to 1 MHz while operating, the larger ones with the bigger tuned circuits are lower frequency which you see at rock shows and the hum you hear is the 60 Hz AC Line feed for the currents being pulled. Many of his other advances, such as Modulating RF and 3 phase power sort of stemmed from those experiments to push his "wireless power" experiments. Several other scientists/experimenters shared and fed ideas to each other creating what became modulated radio carriers as we see, instead of Rudimentary Spark Gap RF noise bursts. |
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Quoted: That’s a great point. Possession, manifestations… how does that apply I wonder? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Would seem like they couldn't really colonize. If the worlds are inseparable and are the polar opposite I would assume visiting one to the other would make permanent occupation not sustainable. Maybe they want to blend them together. That’s a great point. Possession, manifestations… how does that apply I wonder? Angels and demons is how it applies.. anyway that's the camp that I'm in. However many layers of spirit realm exist isn't as important as knowing that they do exist. Now it seems more people are going to be exposed to it. |
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Quoted: Angels and demons is how it applies.. anyway that's the camp that I'm in. However many layers of spirit realm exist isn't as important as knowing that they do exist. Now it seems more people are going to be exposed to it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would seem like they couldn't really colonize. If the worlds are inseparable and are the polar opposite I would assume visiting one to the other would make permanent occupation not sustainable. Maybe they want to blend them together. That’s a great point. Possession, manifestations… how does that apply I wonder? Angels and demons is how it applies.. anyway that's the camp that I'm in. However many layers of spirit realm exist isn't as important as knowing that they do exist. Now it seems more people are going to be exposed to it. I think we are all going to get an education in it. I don’t think I’m going to trust anything “they” say. |
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Quoted: The part in the memo that mentioned "vibrancy" struck a cord. I was always fascinated that Tesla said the entire key to the universe/time/travel/dimensions was hitting the proper vibration... ETA - I think Tesla actually used the term "frequency"... View Quote It was a few weeks after my daughter passed away that she grabbed me by the shirt one night and pulled me up. I had just laid down to go to bed but my whole body was vibrating before this happened. She was so excited that she visited me and said she had to lower her frequency to do it. We talked for a minute and she turned into some sort of gold foil butterfly thing as she left. Wasn't my only experience with vibrations/frequency as I have had them since I was a kid, but never with her again. |
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Quoted: It was a few weeks after my daughter passed away that she grabbed me by the shirt one night and pulled me up. I had just laid down to go to bed but my whole body was vibrating before this happened. She was so excited that she visited me and said she had to lower her frequency to do it. We talked for a minute and she turned into some sort of gold foil butterfly thing as she left. Wasn't my only experience with vibrations/frequency as I have had them since I was a kid, but never with her again. View Quote |
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Quoted: OK. Go on please. My mother was visited by my sister after her (sis) death. View Quote I apologize for my writing abilities, as I am not the best at it. My daughter told me she was fine and happy. She said she was going to "school" and gaining her "Pearls of Knowledge" as well as greeting children who just passed and would comfort them. There was a bright light behind her while we talked. I also heard a very raspy voice behind the light who would interject at times, nicely, and claimed to be my grandmother. Thinking about it later I am not so sure that it was. More on that later. So around 7yrs of age it would always start with my body vibrating slowly at first then would get faster and faster and then it felt like something was slowly pulling the sheets of of me and I would feel like I was starting to float upwards. Scared me so I would just wake up and stay up. Its where I get me username from. After my experience with my daughter I stopped fighting it in hopes to see her again. At first it was pleasant experiences floating away and being able to fly around and could pretty much go anywhere I wanted to in a moment. I could even interact with other people. None that I knew. I have had regular normal dreams and surreal dreams. This was nothing like that. This appeared to me to be awake and cognitive, as in real life. I could interact with objects and feel them. In the end, I never could find her. Then the problems started when I would leave when my vibrations where lower. This resulted in some very scary interactions. Best as I can explain it as they where demons. I would snap back into my body and stop whatever was going on. Well, on a few occasions it seemed I opened a door that they could follow me. I started seeing shadow figures at times in the house, this was verified by my wife at the time, because she would see them too. After we separated, one night I was in bed trying to go to sleep and something started growling in my face, I did not open my eyes. I covered myself completely with the blanket so my face was not exposed and prayed, invoked the name of Jesus and said the Hail Mary three times and it left. I stopped messing with it after that. This led me to research into this. I found out about out of body experiences, the silver cord, frequencies/vibrations and read some books from psychics the covered this and my experiences and what my daughter told me. I have had family members go to psychics and they always brought up my daughter and how she passed. My ex-sister in law worked in a high-rise in CA at the time and on a whim, during her break, went to one of the upper floors she knew where a Psychic was and she fit her in and brought up my daughter in scary detail and what had happened to her. My conclusion to all this is it probably is best not mess around in the stuff I did and mostly is demonic in nature. |
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Wow. Thank you for the explanation and details. So sorry for your daughter and you.
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Quoted: I apologize for my writing abilities, as I am not the best at it. My daughter told me she was fine and happy. She said she was going to "school" and gaining her "Pearls of Knowledge" as well as greeting children who just passed and would comfort them. There was a bright light behind her while we talked. I also heard a very raspy voice behind the light who would interject at times, nicely, and claimed to be my grandmother. Thinking about it later I am not so sure that it was. More on that later. So around 7yrs of age it would always start with my body vibrating slowly at first then would get faster and faster and then it felt like something was slowly pulling the sheets of of me and I would feel like I was starting to float upwards. Scared me so I would just wake up and stay up. Its where I get me username from. After my experience with my daughter I stopped fighting it in hopes to see her again. At first it was pleasant experiences floating away and being able to fly around and could pretty much go anywhere I wanted to in a moment. I could even interact with other people. None that I knew. I have had regular normal dreams and surreal dreams. This was nothing like that. This appeared to me to be awake and cognitive, as in real life. I could interact with objects and feel them. In the end, I never could find her. Then the problems started when I would leave when my vibrations where lower. This resulted in some very scary interactions. Best as I can explain it as they where demons. I would snap back into my body and stop whatever was going on. Well, on a few occasions it seemed I opened a door that they could follow me. I started seeing shadow figures at times in the house, this was verified by my wife at the time, because she would see them too. After we separated, one night I was in bed trying to go to sleep and something started growling in my face, I did not open my eyes. I covered myself completely with the blanket so my face was not exposed and prayed, invoked the name of Jesus and said the Hail Mary three times and it left. I stopped messing with it after that. This led me to research into this. I found out about out of body experiences, the silver cord, frequencies/vibrations and read some books from psychics the covered this and my experiences and what my daughter told me. I have had family members go to psychics and they always brought up my daughter and how she passed. My ex-sister in law worked in a high-rise in CA at the time and on a whim, during her break, went to one of the upper floors she knew where a Psychic was and she fit her in and brought up my daughter in scary detail and what had happened to her. My conclusion to all this is it probably is best not mess around in the stuff I did and mostly is demonic in nature. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OK. Go on please. My mother was visited by my sister after her (sis) death. I apologize for my writing abilities, as I am not the best at it. My daughter told me she was fine and happy. She said she was going to "school" and gaining her "Pearls of Knowledge" as well as greeting children who just passed and would comfort them. There was a bright light behind her while we talked. I also heard a very raspy voice behind the light who would interject at times, nicely, and claimed to be my grandmother. Thinking about it later I am not so sure that it was. More on that later. So around 7yrs of age it would always start with my body vibrating slowly at first then would get faster and faster and then it felt like something was slowly pulling the sheets of of me and I would feel like I was starting to float upwards. Scared me so I would just wake up and stay up. Its where I get me username from. After my experience with my daughter I stopped fighting it in hopes to see her again. At first it was pleasant experiences floating away and being able to fly around and could pretty much go anywhere I wanted to in a moment. I could even interact with other people. None that I knew. I have had regular normal dreams and surreal dreams. This was nothing like that. This appeared to me to be awake and cognitive, as in real life. I could interact with objects and feel them. In the end, I never could find her. Then the problems started when I would leave when my vibrations where lower. This resulted in some very scary interactions. Best as I can explain it as they where demons. I would snap back into my body and stop whatever was going on. Well, on a few occasions it seemed I opened a door that they could follow me. I started seeing shadow figures at times in the house, this was verified by my wife at the time, because she would see them too. After we separated, one night I was in bed trying to go to sleep and something started growling in my face, I did not open my eyes. I covered myself completely with the blanket so my face was not exposed and prayed, invoked the name of Jesus and said the Hail Mary three times and it left. I stopped messing with it after that. This led me to research into this. I found out about out of body experiences, the silver cord, frequencies/vibrations and read some books from psychics the covered this and my experiences and what my daughter told me. I have had family members go to psychics and they always brought up my daughter and how she passed. My ex-sister in law worked in a high-rise in CA at the time and on a whim, during her break, went to one of the upper floors she knew where a Psychic was and she fit her in and brought up my daughter in scary detail and what had happened to her. My conclusion to all this is it probably is best not mess around in the stuff I did and mostly is demonic in nature. First, I am deeply saddened by your loss. You have my most heartfelt sympathy. That is an incredible life experience. I am intrigued. Can you tell me if there is an article or anything that might help a layperson understanding it a little more? Thank you so very much. |
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Quoted: First, I am deeply saddened by your loss. You have my most heartfelt sympathy. That is an incredible life experience. I am intrigued. Can you tell me if there is an article or anything that might help a layperson understanding it a little more? Thank you so very much. View Quote I am still wrapping my head around it. Wiki silvercord for starts, that will have you going down the rabbit hole. Check out James Van Praagh and his books about life after death, he seems to me to be seriously legit. |
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Quoted: It was a few weeks after my daughter passed away that she grabbed me by the shirt one night and pulled me up. I had just laid down to go to bed but my whole body was vibrating before this happened. She was so excited that she visited me and said she had to lower her frequency to do it. We talked for a minute and she turned into some sort of gold foil butterfly thing as she left. Wasn't my only experience with vibrations/frequency as I have had them since I was a kid, but never with her again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The part in the memo that mentioned "vibrancy" struck a cord. I was always fascinated that Tesla said the entire key to the universe/time/travel/dimensions was hitting the proper vibration... ETA - I think Tesla actually used the term "frequency"... It was a few weeks after my daughter passed away that she grabbed me by the shirt one night and pulled me up. I had just laid down to go to bed but my whole body was vibrating before this happened. She was so excited that she visited me and said she had to lower her frequency to do it. We talked for a minute and she turned into some sort of gold foil butterfly thing as she left. Wasn't my only experience with vibrations/frequency as I have had them since I was a kid, but never with her again. Second: I found that comment fascinating as the concept of butterflies being messengers or a representative of loved ones is a very old and touching concept. I have personally witnessed this in my family as well, though not nearly as beautiful as your account. |
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