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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:44:28 PM EDT
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Absoloutely, either they do, or the finance companies do.
You are lucky that's the only theing they convinced you to sell while you were there. One dealer made me sell my soul a few year back. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:48:00 PM EDT
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Yep. The 2nd place that gets it is Sirius, if your vehicle has Sat radio.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:50:51 PM EDT
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Yeah I gave the dealers assigned fictitious first names when I was dealing 6 months ago for a car.
I'm getting unrelated telemarketing calls now asking for those names, solar panels and items that don't even pertain to the car. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:50:56 PM EDT
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If a car dealer can turn a profit, they do it. Morals are so passé.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. The 2nd place that gets it is Sirius, if your vehicle has Sat radio. also if you do decide to suscribe to sirius make sure it's on a CC that you are not afraid you cancel in a second. You can call all you want to cancel your sub but they will keep hitting the card. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:52:53 PM EDT
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LoL, yes.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:54:50 PM EDT
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I still regret giving my phone number to Ford at the county fair 8 years ago. I have never received spam calls like this since then.
I will give it to whoever they sold it to. It has been persistent and unpredictable. They are real sombeeches! |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:55:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: I gave my cell number to a sales rep at a car dealership yesterday so he could contact me if he gets a used car in I might be interested in. I am getting nonstop calls on my cell all day today. Usually I just get one call about my vehicle warranty every few days. I already had four today. Yes Legal or not it does not stop them |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:56:10 PM EDT
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You should pretty much assume that anyone who has your personal info will sell it ... with the possible exception of medical professionals.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 4:57:47 PM EDT
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Give them a Google voice number and if you are crafty and have gmail or other email services that support it create email aliases so you can track exactly who sold your information.
But yes, they do. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: also if you do decide to suscribe to sirius make sure it's on a CC that you are not afraid you cancel in a second. You can call all you want to cancel your sub but they will keep hitting the card. Hmmm, I never had that problem with them, just shitty content that most of the time had me back on local radio stations to find music to listen to. 
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:03:17 PM EDT
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Absolutely. Wife bought a truck. Salesman had my junk email because I contacted initially. I was getting junk email addressed to my wife's name
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:09:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Does a bear shit in the woods?
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:10:49 PM EDT
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literally everyone does.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:13:14 PM EDT
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The crappy CRM software many dealers use is probably swiping info.
It seems unlikely that a dealership that might generate a 1000 inquiries a month? has much financial incentive to sell data... especially when THEY want to run those leads into the ground  Speed. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:20:19 PM EDT
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I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years.
We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list of all newly registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 5:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years. We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list off all registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. This. I'm retired now, but in my time as a salesman and sales manager, I never worked in a dealership that sold customer info. Did we use it to spam you with service and sales emails - of course we did. Sell it to third parties - NO. As in the quoted text, we also had customers sign that disclaimer saying we would NOT sell it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:48:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I'm retired now, but in my time as a salesman and sales manager, I never worked in a dealership that sold customer info. Did we use it to spam you with service and sales emails - of course we did. Sell it to third parties - NO. As in the quoted text, we also had customers sign that disclaimer saying we would NOT sell it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years. We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list off all registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. This. I'm retired now, but in my time as a salesman and sales manager, I never worked in a dealership that sold customer info. Did we use it to spam you with service and sales emails - of course we did. Sell it to third parties - NO. As in the quoted text, we also had customers sign that disclaimer saying we would NOT sell it. There is probably a clause in the CRM that lets the CRM company sell all the non PPI to solicitors. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:00:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: literally everyone does. I don’t. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:00:20 AM EDT
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Did they run your credit? That'll get the calls rolling in.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:10:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years. We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list of all newly registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. This. I've worked at multiple dealerships as a salesman, sales manager, and sales director and this is the first I've ever heard of this. You guys give car dealerships waaaay too much credit for something like this. Think of all the actual data farming companies you rubes enter all your info into when trying to figure out how "fuck the StEaLeRsHiP" True car (and their one million affinity partners): USAA, US News, Consumer Reports, Chase, State Farm, Progressive, Geico, PenFed, your credit union, Sams Club, American Express, LifeMart, AARP, Working Advantage, Allstate, AutoBlog, Car & Driver and on and on and on and on and on.. Edmunds Cars.com Car Gurus KBB NADA Autotrader Autobytel JD Powers Carfax Autocheck Etc Etc Etc And don't act like you don't do this because I know you're lying |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:58:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years. We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list of all newly registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. Well then. @JDennis Last car was purchased 2.29.2020, financed thru my credit union. I contacted 1 dealer, who got the car from another dealer 80 miles away and then to me. I purchased a $35 Walmart phone specifically and only for purchasing this car. Ditto for email. In less than a month I was getting calls and txts, 80% car related. NY DMV never saw my phone number. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well then. @JDennis Last car was purchased 2.29.2020, financed thru my credit union. I contacted 1 dealer, who got the car from another dealer 80 miles away and then to me. I purchased a $35 Walmart phone specifically and only for purchasing this car. Ditto for email. In less than a month I was getting calls and txts, 80% car related. NY DMV never saw my phone number. If you used that phone number and email from a burner phone (funniest thing I have heard in a while, especially to buy a car), that contact info would have been on the paperwork and submitted with the paperwork to the DMV for transfer and registration. Therefore that is the info sold by the state and why your getting contacted on it. If your getting called on your real number and email, the data collecting company looked you up by your address which I am sure you used your real address on the title paperwork. Either way it IS NOT the dealer.... The stories and hoops people go through to buy a car is hilarious on GD. Buying a car is freaking simple, super simple, it isn't rocket surgery |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:15:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. The 2nd place that gets it is Sirius, if your vehicle has Sat radio. Yes, this. I ripped the dealer for giving my cell phone number to Sirius. The dealer took care of it. Sirius did not call me anymore. And, the next time I purchased a car from that dealer Sirius did not call me then either. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give them a Google voice number and if you are crafty and have gmail or other email services that support it create email aliases so you can track exactly who sold your information. But yes, they do. Yep, Google number is good for this purposes. Next is an old school landline that get given out to everyone and not answered. If it’s important enough they’ll leave a message. I don’t answer my cell unless I know the number or expecting a call. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Everybody does.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:44:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The stories and hoops people go through to buy a car is hilarious on GD. Buying a car is freaking simple, super simple, it isn't rocket surgery Yes, but I buy cars every 2 years (6 drivers in my family), mostly new, and each car gets a low of 24k and a high of 38k miles a year. I made the mistake of giving a Honda dealer my contact info persuant to a sale, which did not materialize. TEN YEARS later, and multiple requests to remove from their mail and call lists, I get an email each month (sometimes more) and at least 4-5 calls a year. Multiply that by 5 - 6 dealers when we are car shopping, and it becomes a royal pain. Now they are also texting. We purchased another make/model that time around, and advised the Honda dealership we were not interested. Easily 1x call a week and 5 emails a week back then. I almost resorted to posting their info on Craiglist in one of the seedier sections. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well then. @JDennis Last car was purchased 2.29.2020, financed thru my credit union. I contacted 1 dealer, who got the car from another dealer 80 miles away and then to me. I purchased a $35 Walmart phone specifically and only for purchasing this car. Ditto for email. In less than a month I was getting calls and txts, 80% car related. NY DMV never saw my phone number. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I have been working at the wrong dealerships the past 20 years. We absolutely DO NOT sell your info. Do we keep it for follow ups, cold calls, ect. ABSOLUTELY. It goes in our CRM system. Who sells your info is the state. Companies (like the car is out of warranty spam) buy a list of all newly registered vehicles from the state. Then from there the companies send you non stop mailers and spam calls, ect. Finance companies will send you a welcome packet, approval letter or a letter stating why you were declined. What I stated above does not apply for online retailers like carvana, ect. Or apply to crap chains like carmax. I don't know what they do. In fact the dealers I sold at or the dealer I run actually have the customer sign a document that we will not sell your info to third parties. Well then. @JDennis Last car was purchased 2.29.2020, financed thru my credit union. I contacted 1 dealer, who got the car from another dealer 80 miles away and then to me. I purchased a $35 Walmart phone specifically and only for purchasing this car. Ditto for email. In less than a month I was getting calls and txts, 80% car related. NY DMV never saw my phone number. You could never contact anyone at all with that phone number and still get those calls and texts |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:44:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absoloutely, either they do, or the finance companies do. You are lucky that's the only theing they convinced you to sell while you were there. One dealer made me sell my soul a few year back. It's gotta be the dealers. I bought 3 BNIB cars in the last 2 years with cash. No finance companies involved. I probably average 15 calls a week for extended warranty bullshit. I block them, but they keep calling! I want to destroy them! 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:47:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's gotta be the dealers. I bought 3 BNIB cars in the last 2 years with cash. No finance companies involved. I probably average 15 calls a week for extended warranty bullshit. I block them, but they keep calling! I want to destroy them! It's not the dealers.... it is your state. 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well then. @JDennis Last car was purchased 2.29.2020, financed thru my credit union. I contacted 1 dealer, who got the car from another dealer 80 miles away and then to me. I purchased a $35 Walmart phone specifically and only for purchasing this car. Ditto for email. In less than a month I was getting calls and txts, 80% car related. NY DMV never saw my phone number. Lol, it was probably your credit union I buy sales leads for an insurance company; FCU's are a huge vendor for us. Speed |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should pretty much assume that anyone who has your personal info will sell it ... with the possible exception of medical professionals. They share it too. My housekeeper got China virus. Abt 10 days after diagnosis the blood bank started blowing her phone up asking her to donate. She had no idea about plasma treatments. Early on they were sharing positive test results with local law enforcement too. Not sure if they still are but... |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 12:56:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could never contact anyone at all with that phone number and still get those calls and texts No. I have three numbers on my T mobile plan (total of eight, three to me). I've had my cell phone number since 1991 or 1992, it's relatively important for me to keep that number, and thus to keep the volume of "noise" on that line to a minimum. I have a phone number that is used only for work (work phone where I am reimbursed), and to date, I have never received any such comms on that particular number, in about 7 years. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 12:58:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, it was probably your credit union I buy sales leads for an insurance company; FCU's are a huge vendor for us. Speed I'm going over there tomorrow to dry fuck em so hard....  Except the credit union has my primary phone number (212 555 1212). I also have my own email domain, so every vendor gets their own email address - [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], etc. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 1:00:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Do car dealerships sell your personal info? No |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 1:09:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: also if you do decide to suscribe to sirius make sure it's on a CC that you are not afraid you cancel in a second. You can call all you want to cancel your sub but they will keep hitting the card. Fact, and there is no way to delete or edit the card info on the website. |
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