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Link Posted: 5/12/2022 7:29:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By boolzi:

Local “fuel supply store”? What’s that?
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Local distribution plant will home deliver fuel. Their is a fee tho.

How my parents fill up the diesel fuel tank for the farm like 1-2 times a year.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 8:16:22 AM EDT
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Local distribution plant will home deliver fuel. Their is a fee tho.

How my parents fill up the diesel fuel tank for the farm like 1-2 times a year.
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By boolzi:

Local “fuel supply store”? What’s that?



Local distribution plant will home deliver fuel. Their is a fee tho.

How my parents fill up the diesel fuel tank for the farm like 1-2 times a year.

I get my propane and diesel from the same place.  When Ukraine kicked off I saw the writing on the wall and had both tanks filled while it was "cheap".  Boy am I glad I did.  Have a few months worth of diesel and a years worth of propane.  Hopefully enough to get through the crazy, but not holding my breath.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 8:20:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By boolzi:

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Originally Posted By boolzi:

Local "fuel supply store"? What's that?
Yea, what swamp said. Maybe bulk supplier would be more proper term, idk. The place where farmers and truckers call for bulk delivery. And they are right next door to my business, so local!

I originally was going to just get some barrels off craigslist and fill them, but they were going for $35-45 each (used and who knows what was in them) and hour plus of driving for pick up. Called this fuel supplier next door and he said yea, I have new barrels for $75 each. I said cool, can you fill them also? He said sure, $5.10 for on road and $4.40 for dyed, limit you can legally haul is 2 at a time. Each 55 drum equates to about 2300 miles in my TDI Passat.

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How do you move the heavy drums?  Does the fuel store deliver the fuel to your storage?
I have a truck to haul and a tractor with FEL at home. Full drums should be 435lbs. I have a shed about a 100 yards from my house for storage. A 3 sided open shed would be better, but I'm not as concerned with diesel versus gas. I wanted to do this for the last year, but never got around too it, and now it's going to cost me twice as much. Always wanted a couple drums of on-road, an off road for the tractor, and a gas drum for generator. But with prices still going up, and possible shortages better still to do it.



Link Posted: 5/12/2022 9:29:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By antenna_farmer:

I get my propane and diesel from the same place.  When Ukraine kicked off I saw the writing on the wall and had both tanks filled while it was "cheap".  Boy am I glad I did.  Have a few months worth of diesel and a years worth of propane.  Hopefully enough to get through the crazy, but not holding my breath.
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Family owns a chicken farm. Each house has a 1k propane tank and they have 7 houses. A very cold winter they will just about consume 1 tank per flock which is like 6-8 weeks. That is pretty rare tho.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 9:44:55 AM EDT
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DAY 3      JUDGEMENT DAY
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 9:49:21 AM EDT
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Diesel is being diverted to Europe as Russian punishment.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/major-trucking-firms-prepare-imminent-diesel-shortage-eastern-half-us-freightwaves-says
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 10:26:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MattyMattel:

I used to do that if I wanted fuel off the books. Of course with the ELD, once the truck rolls the ELD starts running the clock.

Sorry assed bastards, as if drivers didn't have enough to deal with. Got a buddy who's getting a good fuel surcharge, he deleted his EPA one box, damned thing was shutting him down.

No wonder I had a bunch of heart attacks.
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Originally Posted By Bayrunner83:
I saw a Big rig complete with trailer waiting for fuel at the Kroger gas station earlier too. I've never seen that before.

I used to do that if I wanted fuel off the books. Of course with the ELD, once the truck rolls the ELD starts running the clock.

Sorry assed bastards, as if drivers didn't have enough to deal with. Got a buddy who's getting a good fuel surcharge, he deleted his EPA one box, damned thing was shutting him down.

No wonder I had a bunch of heart attacks.
Driving used to be fun.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 11:05:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2022 11:10:33 AM EDT
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So Europe doesn’t plan, plays stupid games and we find out? Peak clown world as usual.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 11:48:44 AM EDT
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According to a guy on the local radio (he's in the home heating oil industry) the terminal in New Haven, CT is closed
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 11:49:52 AM EDT
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Isn't today day 3?
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 2:32:24 PM EDT
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Can aborted babies be made into diesel?
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 8:35:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Oakley:
Now if only we could get Nuclear going
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This needs to be the next thing Elon Musk tackles.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 8:40:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Randomguyinthewoods:

Not too long ago and may still apply, you can legally delete dpf if youre waiting on dpf parts only and the dealer will flash everything so that the trucks runs optimally and doesnt derate, your vin is logged into a database and when parts arrive you are to return for repairs or you are subject to the insane amount of fines, DPF is bs and should of neve been a thing, obama pushed that crap down everyones throat and bidens epa is now trying to push dpf for gas.
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I was wondering just the other day when they would push some kind of exhaust fluid onto gas engines.
Link Posted: 5/12/2022 10:06:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ManyFacets:
Isn't today day 3?
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Yes. Also, someone needs to account for how much fuel has been put into the system in the last 3 days.

3 Days ago, there was only reserve for 3 days.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 12:46:13 AM EDT
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They're all liberal up there.

Fuck 'em.

They're probably even cheering it on and virtue signaling on LinkedIn Facebook For Work.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 12:50:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By danos660r:
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I'd buy stock in that company.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 2:10:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By danos660r:
Can aborted babies liberals be made into diesel?
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FIFY
ETA They are prolly filled with soy oil
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 7:29:20 AM EDT
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I went to the Wawa to fill my ethanol free cans last night. There were two tractor trailers filling up. At least they were at the end pumps.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 7:45:59 AM EDT
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Can someone here give me the rundown of what areas are most effected?  
Curious to see how it will impact the rest of the country.  Oil and gas is kind of dependent on regional situations.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 7:56:32 AM EDT
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Eastern seaboard, not so much FL.
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 10:51:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2022 7:24:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BelinTX:
So Europe doesn’t plan, plays stupid games and we find out? Peak clown world as usual.
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Lol what do you think WW2 was
Link Posted: 5/13/2022 7:57:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

Lol what do you think WW2 was
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Originally Posted By BelinTX:
So Europe doesn't plan, plays stupid games and we find out? Peak clown world as usual.

Lol what do you think WW2 was
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Link Posted: 5/13/2022 8:10:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:38:21 AM EDT
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Rumor was that once Trump cut or greatly reduced federal funding to Planned Parenthood, then PP had to find a new revenue stream.

Soooo…PP started to sell baby parts to China.

That’s the rumor anyway.


Link Posted: 5/14/2022 9:19:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By transplanted:


They're all liberal up there.

Fuck 'em.

They're probably even cheering it on and virtue signaling on LinkedIn Facebook For Work.
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Originally Posted By transplanted:


They're all liberal up there.

Fuck 'em.

They're probably even cheering it on and virtue signaling on LinkedIn Facebook For Work.


There are millions of freedom minded conservatives in the northeast who are constantly outvoted. Does that make them all liberal?  Don’t post insulting things that make you look ignorant.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 9:23:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By transplanted:


They're all liberal up there.

Fuck 'em.

They're probably even cheering it on and virtue signaling on LinkedIn Facebook For Work.
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Fuck NY and their SAFE act.
They should move to a free state.
Ha.  That'll never affect me in my state.
They get what they pay for.
I would start shooting over their policies.


So which one did you say?
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:05:07 AM EDT
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Balkanize or be assimilated.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:32:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BelinTX:
So Europe doesn't plan, plays stupid games and we find out? Peak clown world as usual.
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No, as usual we dictate policy for them, they whine about costs/opinions of their economies by implementing that policy, and then we pay them to do it and they STFU until they can get more of our money.

Remember that picture of Trump at some conference with ole Angela leaning over while Trump sat there arms crossed?  Yeah.  Our foreign policy crew will tell you this is the cost of being the global super power.  Meanwhile China laughs and waits for us to finish the Iran deal with  Russia.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:33:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 20229mm:
Can someone here give me the rundown of what areas are most effected?  
Curious to see how it will impact the rest of the country.  Oil and gas is kind of dependent on regional situations.
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PA, NJ, MD, NY, NJ, and the rest  of New England.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:34:12 AM EDT
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Price is still holding at 6.20 and no shortage yet in west mass for diesel
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:43:09 AM EDT
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PA, NJ, MD, NY, NJ, and the rest  of New England.
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Originally Posted By 20229mm:
Can someone here give me the rundown of what areas are most effected?  
Curious to see how it will impact the rest of the country.  Oil and gas is kind of dependent on regional situations.
PA, NJ, MD, NY, NJ, and the rest  of New England.


Good, some of those responsible for this socialist/communist/democrat debacle.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 1:58:08 PM EDT
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F350 dually bringing my 15K+# 5er home from wintering in FL. DEF on the way down was $2.99 and now $4.19. With EFS card the cash price was $5.38 and pump said $280.80. Final discount diesel cost at 1/2 way home was $248. That truck is my daily driver

Don't forget China is building over 100 electricity plants this year! All will be fired with COAL

Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:18:02 PM EDT
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Paid $5.29 today in Tampa.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:20:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By boolzi:

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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Placed an order at the local fuel supply store for 2ct 55 gallon drums of diesel. Cost 5.10 gal plus $75 for the drum. Might do two more. That would be nearly 4 months of supply for me if I drove the TDI only.

Local “fuel supply store”? What’s that?




What I do.

Fuel and lubes. We keep you moving.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:37:55 PM EDT
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We were reviewing this on Friday (long haul transportation).

It will really flip all of the shipping markets when/if it hits. Right now, there are a tremendous amount of trucking outfits running at a loss and right on the brink of failure.

There is a “perfect storm” scenario that could combine with this and really make things sporty.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 7:47:55 PM EDT
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Yup. That motherfucker is like Nero only old and half the size with a memory of a goldfish! he watching the nation burn playing the "air fiddle". He would poke his own eye out with a real one.

The motherfucker keeps taking out of our strategic oil reserves and making us vulnerable! Yeah, yeah, I know I am preaching doom but lets face it. This IS something to fret over GOD DAMN IT!
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 10:22:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fike:
We were reviewing this on Friday (long haul transportation).

It will really flip all of the shipping markets when/if it hits. Right now, there are a tremendous amount of trucking outfits running at a loss and right on the brink of failure.

There is a “perfect storm” scenario that could combine with this and really make things sporty.
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Why would the run at a loss?

Why not just refuse loads or reprice?
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 10:25:05 PM EDT
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3 DAYS!

Looks like we got poked in the pooper again.  
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 10:32:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunsAreIcky:
3 DAYS!

Looks like we got poked in the pooper again.  
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How do people not understand how a "reserve" works?
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 10:50:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By transplanted:


Why would the run at a loss?

Why not just refuse loads or reprice?
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Originally Posted By transplanted:
Originally Posted By fike:
We were reviewing this on Friday (long haul transportation).

It will really flip all of the shipping markets when/if it hits. Right now, there are a tremendous amount of trucking outfits running at a loss and right on the brink of failure.

There is a “perfect storm” scenario that could combine with this and really make things sporty.


Why would the run at a loss?

Why not just refuse loads or reprice?


Some revenue is better than none.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:11:13 PM EDT
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George Carlin is smiling right about now.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:25:56 PM EDT
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Local distribution plant will home deliver fuel. Their is a fee tho.

How my parents fill up the diesel fuel tank for the farm like 1-2 times a year.
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By boolzi:

Local “fuel supply store”? What’s that?



Local distribution plant will home deliver fuel. Their is a fee tho.

How my parents fill up the diesel fuel tank for the farm like 1-2 times a year.


In my neck of the woods, they'll drop the delivery fee if you're buying some minimum, I can't recall if it's 100 or 200 gallons.  But that's in a city where you're just one stop on their route that day, I reckon driving distances are farther in farm country.
Link Posted: 5/14/2022 11:26:36 PM EDT
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Today in CT:

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A different station:


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I filled up my truck and jerry cans yesterday (I don't go through enough diesel at the farm to warrent an above ground tank.  4.99 at Buckee's - fill up cost $304.50.  New record for me.  I already needed to do the trip, filling up at Buckee's saved about $20.
Link Posted: 5/15/2022 12:06:57 AM EDT
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How reserve works. 3 days reserve, one day supply come in, one day supply goes out. You can only get away with 3 days shortfall between new supply and outflows. With a lot of luck and everything working out there could never be a problem. You could also end up with shutting down all shipping in New England in 2 weeks. Dumb game to play
Link Posted: 5/15/2022 11:54:15 AM EDT
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I filled up my truck and jerry cans yesterday (I don't go through enough diesel at the farm to warrent an above ground tank.  4.99 at Buckee's - fill up cost $304.50.  New record for me.  I already needed to do the trip, filling up at Buckee's saved about $20.
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My above ground tank is full of $2 diesel from last year. I have recently bought my first $5 diesel. $200 to fill up. I have about $1100 invested in my storage tank.
Link Posted: 5/15/2022 1:05:08 PM EDT
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Rumor was that once Trump cut or greatly reduced federal funding to Planned Parenthood, then PP had to find a new revenue stream.

Soooo…PP started to sell baby parts to China.

That’s the rumor anyway.
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
Originally Posted By danos660r:
Can aborted babies be made into diesel?


Rumor was that once Trump cut or greatly reduced federal funding to Planned Parenthood, then PP had to find a new revenue stream.

Soooo…PP started to sell baby parts to China.

That’s the rumor anyway.

It's not like china doesn't kill enough of them on their own. They'll admit to 400+ million.
Link Posted: 5/15/2022 1:07:22 PM EDT
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Why would the run at a loss?

Why not just refuse loads or reprice?
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Originally Posted By transplanted:
Originally Posted By fike:
We were reviewing this on Friday (long haul transportation).

It will really flip all of the shipping markets when/if it hits. Right now, there are a tremendous amount of trucking outfits running at a loss and right on the brink of failure.

There is a “perfect storm” scenario that could combine with this and really make things sporty.


Why would the run at a loss?

Why not just refuse loads or reprice?

... and if they are trying to stay open, trying to retain customers, and/or they know they will start dropping customers if they jack prices because they are against a price ceiling?

Businesses are against a ceiling and trying to figure out how they are going to work day to day and there aren't any really good answers.
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