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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:33:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was 7.25 cash on sunset and Alvarado in LA yesterday  Jeebus! I hope I won't be forced to buy a Lightening F150 that they can't produce... |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:36:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeebus! I hope I won't be forced to buy a Lightening F150 that they can't produce... And will never be effected by rolling brown outs.. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:56:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And will never be effected by rolling brown outs.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Jeebus! I hope I won't be forced to buy a Lightening F150 that they can't produce... And will never be effected by rolling brown outs.. Better to have rolling brown/blackouts than to work on generating power that people clearly aren't demanding. Or improving transmission. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:58:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemme throw another monkey wrench into this: Some of the big oil companies that offer a pension are losing experienced folks like it's cool due to the fed interest rates. For my company, you have the option after hitting 15 years of employment and 55 years old of taking either the annuity or the lump sum. For anyone who has actually prepped, the lump sum is the better option. But since the lump sum moves inversely with fed interests rates, many guys that would have stayed longer are retiring. To stay even an additional quarter with a big interest rate jump would cause many to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars. We'll have a knowledge gap in short order. That will lead to more unit trips, extended turnarounds, more off spec product, etc. Not to mention the ever encroaching corporate-ness and micro-management GOTCH-YA fuck-fuck games that make the older more experienced operators just say “Enough of this bullshit!” and pull the handles. Kinda reminds me of the GD threads on why military pilots are or were leaving in droves. EDIT: couple the above with the continued kicking of the can maintenance wise. “umm…yeah, our pipe X-rays showed that section was getting thin, but we didn’t think it would catastrophically fail so soon!” |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before EV doesn't have this problem. EV's aren't affected by the diesel shortage. They are effected by the lack of energy density in those batteries however. Good luck towing around large trailers full of goods, some of them refrigerated, hundreds of miles a day with EV. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:16:01 PM EDT
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WRT my post above….for those who don’t know. When you push hydrocarbons that are say 300*F up to 900*F through a pipe, and that pipe has a thin spot in its “wall”, when that thin spot finally lets go, and really hot hydrocarbons are spraying everywhere, once that stuff hits the air, it auto-ignites.
It doesn’t even need a source of ignition or a spark. If there is an enclosed vessel nearby with liquid hydrocarbons in the bottom:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:22:31 PM EDT
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Oil prices are high and the industry has no desire to change that. Expect high oil prices to the the norm from here on out.
Ukraine-Russia war shutting down/hampering both Russian and Ukrainian production. US suppliers won't raise production because fracking/shalling is only profitable when oil prices are high. OPEC was spooked by 2020s low prices and don't want to see them again. Global demand is only getting tighter as more and more markets modernize. Renewable energy is the Rich Strike of this race and the oil industry knows it. They'll milk the market for all its worth until they can't anymore. Even if it hastens their own gradual replacement, they'll get rich doing it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:24:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: EV's aren't affected by the diesel shortage. They are effected by the lack of energy density in those batteries however. Good luck towing around large trailers full of goods, some of them refrigerated, hundreds of miles a day with EV. Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:24:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After food will be diapers. Time stamp it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For OP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FR7FuLqX0AAKzHO?format=png&name=900x900 It's good to have confirmation, but not on things like this.  This, on top of a reported baby food shortage. After food will be diapers. Time stamp it. I guess my granddaughter gets potty trained sooner rather than later in that case |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Learn to code. I code. Not gonna help with this shit. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:29:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuel and asphalt. Bids went out for contracts a while ago. Especially larger projects. If you bid fuel at 3-4 a gallon 2 years ago. And it’s going to be 5 now… that’s a rough time. Asphalt is the same way. You bid your costs. It’s sky rocketed in price. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Construction industry is going to get trounced. Can you elaborate on this? I’m trying to build a small house. Fuel and asphalt. Bids went out for contracts a while ago. Especially larger projects. If you bid fuel at 3-4 a gallon 2 years ago. And it’s going to be 5 now… that’s a rough time. Asphalt is the same way. You bid your costs. It’s sky rocketed in price. In Virginia, the state contracts have contract adjustments for asphalt and some of the contract items have adjustment for fuel. Private contracts probably don't have this though. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:33:02 PM EDT
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If you think diesel is high now, wait until there isn't any.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 12:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems like this would also affect rail lines & diesel electric engines, but I'm not a train guy. Can anyone comment? They buy in bulk and have on site storage. It'll eventually hit them but it'll take a little bit. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:01:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. So in other words we are going to have to suck it up until the "kinks" are resolved? How about no? |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:09:41 PM EDT
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I saw a Big rig complete with trailer waiting for fuel at the Kroger gas station earlier too. I’ve never seen that before.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:13:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Oil prices are high and the industry has no desire to change that. Expect high oil prices to the the norm from here on out. Ukraine-Russia war shutting down/hampering both Russian and Ukrainian production. US suppliers won't raise production because fracking/shalling is only profitable when oil prices are high. OPEC was spooked by 2020s low prices and don't want to see them again. Global demand is only getting tighter as more and more markets modernize. Renewable energy is the Rich Strike of this race and the oil industry knows it. They'll milk the market for all its worth until they can't anymore. Even if it hastens their own gradual replacement, they'll get rich doing it. Quoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. I would love to know your experience in this field. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:21:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:39:28 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better to have rolling brown/blackouts than to work on generating power that people clearly aren't demanding. Or improving transmission. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Jeebus! I hope I won't be forced to buy a Lightening F150 that they can't produce... And will never be effected by rolling brown outs.. Better to have rolling brown/blackouts than to work on generating power that people clearly aren't demanding. Or improving transmission. I live in a small town in OK, multiple hour power outages are fairly common and coming home to find clocks blinking is not unusual at all. I’d bet OG&E can’t keep power up for 6 months without an outage even barring weather issues. They also like to talk about hefty profits in one hand and then cry for price increases due to weather events in the other all the while their last mile distribution is rotting and falling over. FWIW the guys in the field are awesome, it’s the people in charge that couldn’t care less. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:46:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a Big rig complete with trailer waiting for fuel at the Kroger gas station earlier too. I’ve never seen that before. During the last gas shortage (stations being out of fuel and waiting for deliveries) in the Nashville area, Kroger was one of the more reliable places to buy gas. They apparently had made better (regarding deliveries) contracts with their suppliers. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:47:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Crude oil prices have dropped 10% since Friday. From $110 to $99/barrel.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:51:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Building back better To the closet left and lurkers, May you die a painful death of ass cancer 
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:55:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a Big rig complete with trailer waiting for fuel at the Kroger gas station earlier too. I’ve never seen that before. I used to do that if I wanted fuel off the books. Of course with the ELD, once the truck rolls the ELD starts running the clock. Sorry assed bastards, as if drivers didn't have enough to deal with. Got a buddy who's getting a good fuel surcharge, he deleted his EPA one box, damned thing was shutting him down. No wonder I had a bunch of heart attacks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 1:58:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. Typical green response. Why worry about starving today when the answer is only years away. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:03:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The diesel shortage is a myth, super-expensive diesel is actually good for your wallet, it's all Trump's fault, and why don't you just go buy a brand-new all-electric truck? There, I think I have the next six months of media content mapped out. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:04:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical green response. Why worry about starving today when the answer is only years away. Dont pay him any mind, he is a watermelon. Green on the outside, red on the inside. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:04:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Typical green response. Why worry about starving today when the answer is only years away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. Typical green response. Why worry about starving today when the answer is only years away. Anyone pushing hydrogen is either an idiot or grifting. There is no third option. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:10:51 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We burned 460 gallons yesterday doing field work. Having 1,200 gallons delivered today. Hopefully corn and soybeans keep going up to pay for diesel that keeps going up. I doubt they will go up enough to even slightly offset the cost increases for production. Fertilizer has quadrupled Furl will hit tripled Parts have gone up 70-90% Plus oil, hydraulic fluid…..etc. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:11:03 PM EDT
[#28]
In '08 when oil was damn near $170/bbl, we didn't see fuel prices this high.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:19:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In '08 when oil was damn near $170/bbl, we didn't see fuel prices this high. It really makes a guy wonder. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:38:44 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont pay him any mind, he is a watermelon. Green on the outside, red on the inside. Never heard that one. I like it. 
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:40:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oil prices are high and the industry has no desire to change that. Expect high oil prices to the the norm from here on out. Ukraine-Russia war shutting down/hampering both Russian and Ukrainian production. US suppliers won't raise production because fracking/shalling is only profitable when oil prices are high. OPEC was spooked by 2020s low prices and don't want to see them again. Global demand is only getting tighter as more and more markets modernize. Renewable energy is the Rich Strike of this race and the oil industry knows it. They'll milk the market for all its worth until they can't anymore. Even if it hastens their own gradual replacement, they'll get rich doing it. We've heard oil prices were never going to go down again and then they did. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:40:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It really makes a guy wonder. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In '08 when oil was damn near $170/bbl, we didn't see fuel prices this high. It really makes a guy wonder. Something about prices reflecting future costs? Or businesses making up profits for the cheap gas for 4 years? |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:42:39 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We've heard oil prices were never going to go down again and then they did. But did they really? YearInflation-adjustedActual 2020$2.31$2.28 2019$2.25$2.46 2018$2.21$2.46 2017$2.17$2.50 2016$2.12$2.51 2015$2.11$2.45 2014$2.09$3.37 2013$2.06$3.53 2012$2.02$3.64 2011$1.97$3.53 2010$1.94$2.79 2009$1.89$2.35 2008$1.88$3.27 2007$1.81$2.80 2006$1.77$2.59 2005$1.71$2.30 2004$1.65$1.88 2003$1.62$1.59 2002$1.59$1.36 2001$1.56$1.46 2000$1.51$1.51 |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be tough in trucking. We are a high revenue, low margin business. With the truck shortage for the last year and a half, equipment prices have doubled and parts are hard to find. Labor is demanding huge wages, if you can even find someone insurable. Add in dollar a mile plus fuel and my break even is huge. A lot of small and large trucking companies aren't going to survive this. Have a class A, but why use it when I can make 81k a year driving a concrete truck, home by 6:30-7 every night. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:49:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I live in a small town in OK, multiple hour power outages are fairly common and coming home to find clocks blinking is not unusual at all. I'd bet OG&E can't keep power up for 6 months without an outage even barring weather issues. They also like to talk about hefty profits in one hand and then cry for price increases due to weather events in the other all the while their last mile distribution is rotting and falling over. FWIW the guys in the field are awesome, it's the people in charge that couldn't care less.  I know several Oklahoma towns like that.I might know your town. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:53:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Crew cab 4x4? I will Buy it @BlackDogFarms IM sent. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 2:56:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone pushing hydrogen is either an idiot or grifting. There is no third option. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. Typical green response. Why worry about starving today when the answer is only years away. Anyone pushing hydrogen is either an idiot or grifting. There is no third option. 1. Hydrogen is the CFL bulb of automotive transportation. 2. He's the same lefty that 'tards up the political threads. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 3:15:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Liberals claim this is all made up. "Joe Biden is the best president ever!" Seriously. I guess their game plan is to just stick their head in the sand. That or "can't we force the oil companies to produce more?" They're truly delusional. We are rightly fucked.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 3:32:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We've heard oil prices were never going to go down again and then they did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oil prices are high and the industry has no desire to change that. Expect high oil prices to the the norm from here on out. Ukraine-Russia war shutting down/hampering both Russian and Ukrainian production. US suppliers won't raise production because fracking/shalling is only profitable when oil prices are high. OPEC was spooked by 2020s low prices and don't want to see them again. Global demand is only getting tighter as more and more markets modernize. Renewable energy is the Rich Strike of this race and the oil industry knows it. They'll milk the market for all its worth until they can't anymore. Even if it hastens their own gradual replacement, they'll get rich doing it. We've heard oil prices were never going to go down again and then they did. Someone said this last run up and I'll friggin post it again.... "The cure to high prices is....high prices" |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:07:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a Big rig complete with trailer waiting for fuel at the Kroger gas station earlier too. I’ve never seen that before. Many pumps cut off at the credit-card or debit-card pre-approval limit (used to be $99, etc.). *** driver walks up to cashier *** Cashier: How can I help you? Driver: I'm on Pump 4 and I need $1,300 Cashier:  Driver: I know 
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WRT my post above….for those who don’t know. When you push hydrocarbons that are say 300*F up to 900*F through a pipe, and that pipe has a thin spot in its “wall”, when that thin spot finally lets go, and really hot hydrocarbons are spraying everywhere, once that stuff hits the air, it auto-ignites. It doesn’t even need a source of ignition or a spark. If there is an enclosed vessel nearby with liquid hydrocarbons in the bottom: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/C9D608F1-5E68-4015-8E01-99B7595580C7_jpe-2378892.JPG I don’t BLEVE it. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:12:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Will hotdogs still be cheaper come 4th of July? I'm predicting $0.04 cheaper this year. But don't ask what's in them |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:16:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an acre I mow, Ilike to keep the front of house nice with some weed and feed, one bag will do it. $78 dollars for a bag, not this year. needed 2 gallons of sherman william paint to touch up decks, that was $125 with a 10% discount. Cant wait to put fuel in my boat holds 80 gallons, it will be around six at my marina , Iam guessing. If diesel keeps going up I'll break even hiring a company to come out. Save wear and tear on my tractor (1025). |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:29:34 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If diesel keeps going up I'll break even hiring a company to come out. Save wear and tear on my tractor (1025). ...until they hit you with the fuel surcharge. 
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:40:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WRT my post above.for those who don't know. When you push hydrocarbons that are say 300*F up to 900*F through a pipe, and that pipe has a thin spot in its "wall", when that thin spot finally lets go, and really hot hydrocarbons are spraying everywhere, once that stuff hits the air, it auto-ignites. It doesn't even need a source of ignition or a spark. If there is an enclosed vessel nearby with liquid hydrocarbons in the bottom: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/C9D608F1-5E68-4015-8E01-99B7595580C7_jpe-2378892.JPG |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:42:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:48:59 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any plastics, rubbers, synthetics, or lubes on those sweet hydrogen vehicles? Just checking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hydrogen vehicles are range competitive with diesel. Once they figure out the kinks (and its much better now then it was even 5 years ago) the future is BEV for personal vehicles and hydrogen for heavy duty trucks. I would like him to break down the processes of producing Hydrogen and what method he finds best and why. 
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:54:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would like him to break down the processes of producing Hydrogen and what method he finds best and why. Of course, it's made with dinosaur corpses and steam. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 4:57:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I make a fuck ton of H2 a day. Of course, it's made with dinosaur corpses and steam. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would like him to break down the processes of producing Hydrogen and what method he finds best and why. Of course, it's made with dinosaur corpses and steam. I'm not going to deny that Hydrogen, right now, is by far the best option of technology we fundamentally have, for clean fuels. The problem with hydrogen is *exactly* what you point out: We don't have the ability to make it, cheaply. If they crack the problem of producing cheap hydrogen, we'll start using hydrogen powered vehicles all day every day. But we're not there. We're a long way from there. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 5:03:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Let’s go Brandon!
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