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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:14:36 PM EDT
A buddy and I ran a errand a couple hours away yesterday, and while there we stopped by a few larger chain stores because I wanted to see how bad the lack of firearms stuff actually is around here.  Literally 2 had hardly and guns and zero ammo except for 300 win mag, and some .270 and odd calibers. The last one had hardly anything except for some shotguns, a few handguns, a ton of bolt rifles and 2 AR's.  One AR was a Sport 2, the other was a Colt CR6920 for a $1000.  I have everything I need and then some, but told my buddy he should pick up the Colt since he only has 1 AR.  If he didn't I was thinking about it since they are going for 1300-1500 for the CR6920 now. The guy at the counter says they get a couple of those Colts in regularly.  Did Colt start selling them again?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:15:15 PM EDT
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yes they are roll marked CR instead of LE now
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:16:31 PM EDT
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Are they going to make the LE6920SOCOM again?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:19:08 PM EDT
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I'll take an A4
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:24:44 PM EDT
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I thought they were selling both the LE and CR before they stopped selling AR's all together to the Civilian Market.

All I wanted to really find was a Gold Cup Trophy, but even the 1911's other than a couple Kimbers were gone.

I want to safe queen my wife's fathers Air Force service Colt


Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:26:16 PM EDT
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Colts junk. Buy BCM
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:27:36 PM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:28:54 PM EDT
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You’re lucky if the gun actually has Colt made parts in it, and not some subcontracted to a no-name shop.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:36:30 PM EDT
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This.  Colt is a brand name now, not a manufacturer.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:41:11 PM EDT
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About a month ago I saw 3 of the Colt M4 MPS at Scheels.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:41:30 PM EDT
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junk, yeah sure.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:47:24 PM EDT
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Stack up the bad guy bodies that Colts have ended, and BCM's. (I have nothing against BCM btw)
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:50:23 PM EDT
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it's still in the 2020/21 colt catalogs.

people shit on colt but it's still the same colt. too many people believe the aggrieved ex colt employee that was last employed there some 8 or 10 years ago, chris bartocci, the small arms solutions guy on youtube.

colt ar's are still GTG and the staple.

the new commercial 6920 has new markings though. no more "m4", just "carbine"



edit: i would have bought the rifle for $1k. easily.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 9:51:52 PM EDT
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What makes colt junk and bcm superior to it?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:09:40 PM EDT
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I like Colt rifles.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:10:39 PM EDT
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yes they are roll marked laser engraved CR instead of LE now
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The rollmark wasn't even that if what was shown/discussed here. It was laser etched and horrendous looking.


edit: beat with actual pic of trashy etching.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:20:21 PM EDT
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Whats a preban BCM worth?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:21:33 PM EDT
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They are NOT made by colt. They carry the name but are sub contract parts. MAC did an entire video on it.


Colt made ARs are now no longer made
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:22:38 PM EDT
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it's still in the 2020/21 colt catalogs.

people shit on colt but it's still the same colt. too many people believe the aggrieved ex colt employee that was last employed there some 8 or 10 years ago, chris bartocci, the small arms solutions guy on youtube.

colt ar's are still GTG and the staple.

the new commercial 6920 has new markings though. no more "m4", just "carbine"

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20201003-085007_Chrome_jpg-1617690.JPG

edit: i would have bought the rifle for $1k. easily.
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it's people like you what cause unrest
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:23:22 PM EDT
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it's still in the 2020/21 colt catalogs.

people shit on colt but it's still the same colt. too many people believe the aggrieved ex colt employee that was last employed there some 8 or 10 years ago, chris bartocci, the small arms solutions guy on youtube.

colt ar's are still GTG and the staple.

the new commercial 6920 has new markings though. no more "m4", just "carbine"

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20201003-085007_Chrome_jpg-1617690.JPG

edit: i would have bought the rifle for $1k. easily.
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Rifle is made by about 3-5 manufacturers now....

I wouldn't pay $450 for it
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:26:27 PM EDT
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I don't remember BCM selling out civilian gun owners?  Am I wrong?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:26:30 PM EDT
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Lol.  TDP still TDP though.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 10:58:46 PM EDT
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I'm not up on any of the newer colt offerings.
Curious to know how many manufacturers are involved with a bcm and how much you wouldn't pay for one
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:36:31 AM EDT
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I wish they'd bring back the 6520.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:46:14 AM EDT
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I'm not up on any of the newer colt offerings.
Curious to know how many manufacturers are involved with a bcm and how much you wouldn't pay for one
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Rifle is made by about 3-5 manufacturers now....

I wouldn't pay $450 for it
I'm not up on any of the newer colt offerings.
Curious to know how many manufacturers are involved with a bcm and how much you wouldn't pay for one

He obviously missed the big DMPS thread a while back...
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:47:05 AM EDT
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What makes colt junk and bcm superior to it?
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What makes colt junk and bcm superior to it?



I have a bunch of Colts and one BCM, ha e owned a bunch of BCMs.  

BCM makes a bunch of different configurations of barrel and handguard.  

Quality is about equal.  

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:49:18 AM EDT
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A buddy and I ran a errand a couple hours away yesterday, and while there we stopped by a few larger chain stores because I wanted to see how bad the lack of firearms stuff actually is around here.  Literally 2 had hardly and guns and zero ammo except for 300 win mag, and some .270 and odd calibers. The last one had hardly anything except for some shotguns, a few handguns, a ton of bolt rifles and 2 AR's.  One AR was a Sport 2, the other was a Colt CR6920 for a $1000.  I have everything I need and then some, but told my buddy he should pick up the Colt since he only has 1 AR.  If he didn't I was thinking about it since they are going for 1300-1500 for the CR6920 now. The guy at the counter says they get a couple of those Colts in regularly.  Did Colt start selling them again?
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They started up again when it was no longer politically fashionable to be anti-2A.

They'll stop selling to civilians again after the next event the Connecticut Karens get upset about.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:51:50 AM EDT
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Yes.

Wish they would have kept the 6720 too.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:53:18 AM EDT
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Did someone ask for the chart?

Remember the chart?  

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:00:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:04:10 AM EDT
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Pepperidge farm members
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:59:01 AM EDT
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I'd like a 6520 please, don't give a shit about the markings.
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Pepperidge farm members
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Pepperidge farm members


Backstory?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:12:03 AM EDT
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They dropped the AR15A4

I own one but still
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:18:14 AM EDT
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Lol.  TDP still TDP though.
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I wouldn't pay $450 for it


Lol.  TDP still TDP though.
People having this perception that TDP was the most important thing to worry about was laughable. It is not nor was it ever some magical litmus test for a good gun.

It is depressing that Colt AR-15s are no longer Colt AR-15s though.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:19:42 AM EDT
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The chart was legit for it's intended purpose.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:26:33 AM EDT
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Serious trigger pullers only.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:31:45 AM EDT
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it's still in the 2020/21 colt catalogs.

people shit on colt but it's still the same colt. too many people believe the aggrieved ex colt employee that was last employed there some 8 or 10 years ago, chris bartocci, the small arms solutions guy on youtube.

colt ar's are still GTG and the staple.

the new commercial 6920 has new markings though. no more "m4", just "carbine"

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20201003-085007_Chrome_jpg-1617690.JPG

edit: i would have bought the rifle for $1k. easily.
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They put a fucking QR code on them now?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 4:54:11 AM EDT
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People having this perception that TDP was the most important thing to worry about was laughable. It is not nor was it ever some magical litmus test for a good gun.

It is depressing that Colt AR-15s are no longer Colt AR-15s though.
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The M4 TDP has to be an open secret by now, and the government owned M16A1/A2 TDP was FOIA'd and published in several places a few years ago. I'm guessing most manufacturers who don't follow it do it out of cost concerns more than a lack of specs. Even Colt put their name on Anderson-produced budget ARs at one point.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 5:19:29 AM EDT
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They started up again when it was no longer politically fashionable to be anti-2A.

They'll stop selling to civilians again after the next event the Connecticut Karens get upset about.
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A buddy and I ran a errand a couple hours away yesterday, and while there we stopped by a few larger chain stores because I wanted to see how bad the lack of firearms stuff actually is around here.  Literally 2 had hardly and guns and zero ammo except for 300 win mag, and some .270 and odd calibers. The last one had hardly anything except for some shotguns, a few handguns, a ton of bolt rifles and 2 AR's.  One AR was a Sport 2, the other was a Colt CR6920 for a $1000.  I have everything I need and then some, but told my buddy he should pick up the Colt since he only has 1 AR.  If he didn't I was thinking about it since they are going for 1300-1500 for the CR6920 now. The guy at the counter says they get a couple of those Colts in regularly.  Did Colt start selling them again?
They started up again when it was no longer politically fashionable to be anti-2A.

They'll stop selling to civilians again after the next event the Connecticut Karens get upset about.


That's not why they stopped. They won a bunch of military contracts at the same time, and weren't prepared to fill all the volume at once, and had to dedicate production to those contracts. They always intended to resume civilian sales.
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They put a fucking QR code on them now?
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it's still in the 2020/21 colt catalogs.

people shit on colt but it's still the same colt. too many people believe the aggrieved ex colt employee that was last employed there some 8 or 10 years ago, chris bartocci, the small arms solutions guy on youtube.

colt ar's are still GTG and the staple.

the new commercial 6920 has new markings though. no more "m4", just "carbine"

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20201003-085007_Chrome_jpg-1617690.JPG

edit: i would have bought the rifle for $1k. easily.

They put a fucking QR code on them now?


What's the problem?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:51:26 AM EDT
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My buddy called Colt about a new one he purchased because it didn’t have a C marked BCG like he was use to seeing, and it had a different feel to it. What I gathered secondhand from him was that the guy told him naturally it was just as good as his older Colts but some things were contracted out. He said the safety was the least positive feeling one he’s ever felt, everything felt gritty and cheap, and he was really worried over the BCG.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 7:57:09 AM EDT
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They never stopped.

Arms Unlimited and others were getting 6920s in the entire time this rumor was being blasted.
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I think there were just so many pallets of guns they had enough to keep a steady trickle from before. LGS said the shipments they got where all built prior to the “halt” on civilian sales.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 8:19:17 AM EDT
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You guys realize that Colt doesn’t actually have a turn key AR factory or anything right?

They are a brand/roll mark that now farms out the work to machine shops who make AR parts....many of them obscure.
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I have a bunch of Colts and one BCM, ha e owned a bunch of BCMs.  

BCM makes a bunch of different configurations of barrel and handguard.  

Quality is about equal.  

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What makes colt junk and bcm superior to it?



I have a bunch of Colts and one BCM, ha e owned a bunch of BCMs.  

BCM makes a bunch of different configurations of barrel and handguard.  

Quality is about equal.  



I did it the arfcom way and got both, gave the BCM to my fiancée. I did put a bcm free float quad rail on my colt, but I don’t see much difference in quality from one to the next. I’m genuinely curious as to what makes BCM superior to colt. If the argument that colt isn’t making all their parts anymore, then why is it inferior to BCM which also doesn’t make all their parts in house (from my understanding; I could be wrong).

I’d bet on my colt being more accurate than my fiancee’s BCM. I think I should go out to the range and do some side by side accuracy testing between both rifles. I have a feeling the colt barrel is superior to the BCM barrel. Do we know who makes the barrels for BCM?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 1:20:36 PM EDT
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Is there a link to who makes Colt parts now if it isn't Colt? I can't find anything searching that says they outsource, or who they outsource to.
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