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Posted: 10/26/2020 12:31:42 PM EDT
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My FIL was the assistant Chief of a fairly large city in FL.
He was and is a died in the wool Democrat. Voted for Obama twice and HRC in 2016. Said it was all about (police) unions to him. 
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Posted: 10/26/2020 12:49:35 PM EDT
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Many at my fire department are hard core leftists. They follow lock step with whatever the union says. I, and many others, do not and am a republican and on any given topic I am 100% opposed to whatever the liberals want.
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Posted: 10/26/2020 1:04:03 PM EDT
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I have worked for 2 departments in my career....municipal and sheriffs office. I would estimate 95-98% of my coworkers are conservative. Even the ones who lean liberal could be considered socially liberal while also being “law and order liberals”. This is in a conservative state so more liberals states are probably different.
The real problem is the liberal judges and DA/prosecutors. Our elected DA runs as a Republican but a bunch of us suspect he’s a Democrat. People bitch about the “cops don’t do anything” in liberal areas but when your DA/prosecutor refuses to prosecute anything, and your city government tells you to stand down, there isn’t much you can do. You will find more liberal department heads but that’s because that’s the only people liberal city leaders hire and that person isn’t out working the streets and seeing the problems there like the road officers. They are usually highly educated types who think a new program will solve all society’s ills. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 1:48:33 PM EDT
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You're going to find this to be a regional issue.
Departments actively attract people with the same qualities that would also vote democrat, and weed out conservative personalities. You wouldn't think a hippie liberal anti-government type would be in a uniform, but a lot of them think they can just talk through issues. Plus, in places where there are a lot of democrats, police/fire/waste are good jobs with pensions and excellent medical. They are not there to help, they are playing the long con. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 2:01:43 PM EDT
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It seems most chiefs tend left-Democrat. goggle what-how the International Association of Chiefs of Police recommend for laws, prosecution, and guns.
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Posted: 10/26/2020 2:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My FIL was the assistant Chief of a fairly large city in FL. He was and is a died in the wool Democrat. Voted for Obama twice and HRC in 2016. Said it was all about (police) unions to him. How about now when all the unions support Trump? Has he changed his tune? To be honest despite all the harm the left can do to the country their eagerness to paint cops as the enemy worries me more than anything else. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 2:25:24 PM EDT
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Unions can ruin rational thinking. Happens in many areas, including LEO and Fire. Unions tend to support liberals for their labor positions.
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Posted: 10/26/2020 2:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about now when all the unions support Trump? Has he changed his tune? To be honest despite all the harm the left can do to the country their eagerness to paint cops as the enemy worries me more than anything else. UPDATE: Looks like the trolls have found the poll. Obviously invalid entries. Oh well, I tried. We know what the truth is eh? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My FIL was the assistant Chief of a fairly large city in FL. He was and is a died in the wool Democrat. Voted for Obama twice and HRC in 2016. Said it was all about (police) unions to him. How about now when all the unions support Trump? Has he changed his tune? To be honest despite all the harm the left can do to the country their eagerness to paint cops as the enemy worries me more than anything else. UPDATE: Looks like the trolls have found the poll. Obviously invalid entries. Oh well, I tried. We know what the truth is eh? Havent discussed 2020 with him. He's from MA, very liberal family. The city he worked in here is very democrat. Who's trolling this thread? |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 2:39:19 PM EDT
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Leftism is inherently authoritarian. Organizations that attract authoritarians will also attract leftists. Those who seek authority over their own coworkers...are likely more so.
It seemed illogical, but the most ardent hard leftists I have known were also former Marines...and I mean the “ kill everyone who won’t give up their guns” types. Authoritarian culture... |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 4:36:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about now when all the unions support Trump? Has he changed his tune? To be honest despite all the harm the left can do to the country their eagerness to paint cops as the enemy worries me more than anything else. UPDATE: Looks like the trolls have found the poll. Obviously invalid entries. Oh well, I tried. We know what the truth is eh? Yeah polls in general don’t mean much and mean even less on this site. Trump is definitely the law and order presidential candidate and is WIDELY supported by LE (not just national LE organizations) Doesn’t mean I agree 100% with him but the country is definitely better with him as president. What is sad though.....there is a push nationwide for low/no bonds, soft on crime sentences, useless probation/parole programs, and reduce the prison population. Sounds great but we are seeing the results nationwide as liberal jurisdictions are seeing an explosion in crime. I suspect if nothing changes (and the president can’t change much locally) we are headed to a return to 80s and 90s crime rates. The retard public will likely blame the president when it’s really their local representatives (state and lower level) who are pushing for the insanity. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 4:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My FIL was the assistant Chief of a fairly large city in FL. He was and is a died in the wool Democrat. Voted for Obama twice and HRC in 2016. Said it was all about (police) unions to him. I worked with plenty of cops who were very vocal about voting for Obama. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 6:21:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Havent discussed 2020 with him. He's from MA, very liberal family. The city he worked in here is very democrat. Who's trolling this thread? I noticed some early yes votes and it smelled a bit fishy. Can't say if it was trolling but seems likely considering the question. When you think about it seems nonsensical that any LE or first responder would support the liberal ticket. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 6:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I worked with plenty of cops who were very vocal about voting for Obama. First term I understand. Obama was a smooth talking hustler and he promised a lot. By second term Obama was well into throwing shade at law enforcement every chance he got. His rhetoric put a target on cop's backs. I wonder if those same officers voted for Obama both times. |
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Posted: 10/26/2020 10:24:57 PM EDT
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Never supported a Democrat, never will. Won't be a part of any organization that does. Black officers vote Democrat because of reasons,( conditioning ). Know at least one white officer voted for Obama for the same reasonbut add white guilt.
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Posted: 10/27/2020 6:56:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First term I understand. Obama was a smooth talking hustler and he promised a lot. By second term Obama was well into throwing shade at law enforcement every chance he got. His rhetoric put a target on cop's backs. I wonder if those same officers voted for Obama both times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I worked with plenty of cops who were very vocal about voting for Obama. First term I understand. Obama was a smooth talking hustler and he promised a lot. By second term Obama was well into throwing shade at law enforcement every chance he got. His rhetoric put a target on cop's backs. I wonder if those same officers voted for Obama both times. I was already retired by his second term but it wouldn't surprise me. Some of them were members of one of the black officers organizations we had. The group has links on their site to the Black Panther Party and lists Mumia Abu-Jamal as recommended reading. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 6:59:10 AM EDT
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Yes, it's bullshit. Some cops are liberal, some cops are conservative, some cops aren't either one.
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Posted: 10/27/2020 11:12:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was already retired by his second term but it wouldn't surprise me. Some of them were members of one of the black officers organizations we had. The group has links on their site to the Black Panther Party and lists Mumia Abu-Jamal as recommended reading. Appreciate everyone's input. Considering that Trump has almost twice the black support he did first time out and the left's plan to replace them with hispanics has not succeeded ftmp, I feel better about the possibility of a win. Wish there was something that could be done about our deep state run media. They are worse than the Chinese propaganda machine. |
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Posted: 10/27/2020 2:52:30 PM EDT
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LE tend to be overwhelmingly conservative, but there are a lot of LE unions that have historically voted DFL because of union issues. This is where a lot of dissonance occurs. In the last 10 years, this has started to shift and we are seeing unions changing to supporting conservatives and setting aside some of the pro-union BS in favor of supporting candidates that actually support cops and law and order.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:28:17 AM EDT
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Hell no, conservative all the way.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 4:00:29 AM EDT
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LE for 19 years. Staunch Conservative! My agency is NON Union. Sheriff here was known as a "union buster". Union tried to get in here but no one wanted that bullshit. I know of no liberal scum in my agency however there are in the two small cities in our county. Area is mostly red though!
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Posted: 10/28/2020 4:19:36 AM EDT
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The Fraternal Order of Police and the Police Benevolent Association both support Trump this election.
There no LEO's on sitting the fence about who to support for President this go-around given all of the civil unrest. It's clear that BLM, Antifa and the LEO leadership and management may be left leaning, but my guess most of the rank and file are not leaning toward Biden. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 4:41:36 AM EDT
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FUCK. NO.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 4:55:50 AM EDT
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LE is a cross section of the country. No different than the Armed Forces, etc.... if your area is mostly Leftist then the majority of LE will be Leftist since most are from the area. If the area is 50/50 5hen LE will probably be 50/50. Additionally, the higher in rank the more the political environment will determine the political mindset. A Leftist Mayor will not appoint q Conservative to be Chief of Police.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LE is a cross section of the country. No different than the Armed Forces, etc.... if your area is mostly Leftist then the majority of LE will be Leftist since most are from the area. If the area is 50/50 5hen LE will probably be 50/50. Additionally, the higher in rank the more the political environment will determine the political mindset. A Leftist Mayor will not appoint q Conservative to be Chief of Police. I guess we will never know for sure but I wonder how many left leaning officers (chiefs too) will vote for Trump anyway. Surely they will follow the instinct to protect self and family long term. Voting for Biden is akin to shooting yourself in the foot. I predict a blue wave but it's not the one the Dems expect. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 2:19:24 PM EDT
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A pox on OP for having a poll with a different question than the thread title.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 2:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A pox on OP for having a poll with a different question than the thread title. Sorry. I changed the title. I assume all the votes for supporting Dems are mistakes due to my crappy wording. Am I officially un-poxed now officer? 
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Posted: 10/31/2020 5:09:17 PM EDT
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I will answer their calls for service, but no, I do not and will not support the leftist agenda. Where I used to be more of a 'let's all get along' type, now I call it out whereever I see it.
I know of one obama loving democrat law enforcement officer in my area, and he has rank, too.* *this obviously does not include police chiefs in our area |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 2:16:25 PM EDT
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Most of my friends in my agency are Republican Trump supporters but there is a minority that support Biden and socialism. I don’t understand it either. One is an actual card carrying socialist. Ironically when Obama got elected he was afraid gun control will be enacted so he was asking those of us on the correct side of the political spectrum to help him buy some AKs before they got banned. On top of that he’s a Jew. And I couldn’t help but think to myself that he did not learn from his peoples history and is just repeating it. SMH.
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Posted: 11/18/2020 8:32:11 PM EDT
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Dem never but my shitty ass union (teamsters) supports FJB and blm all the way. They don't seem to hate their members when the dues come in however.
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