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Link Posted: 11/15/2018 4:39:56 PM EDT
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Koalas all have chlamydia, rape each other, eat shit, and rape each other. We shouldn't follow any of their voting methods.

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Koalas might be fucking 'tarded, but ranked voting is a better system than the shit we have here in the US.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 4:52:46 PM EDT
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Koalas all have chlamydia, rape each other, eat shit, and rape each other. We shouldn't follow any of their voting methods.

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You said "rape each other" twice.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 4:55:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/15/2018 4:56:24 PM EDT
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Funny, numbers say R wins, dems keep counting, they find some for them, they won.  Time to build gallows
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 4:57:24 PM EDT
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Something to keep in mind here is that the country isn't divided 50/50. Most of the country doesn't follow or care about politics enough to vote.



You'll note that in the past even fewer Americans could be bothered to do their civic duty.

Don't fall into the media trap. Even if 100% of Dem voters were rabid true believers (most are not) that's only around 20-25% of the population. One out of four or five people in the US actually voted Democrat, same for the Republicans.

The country isn't divided,  voters are. It's by design, it's how the "two party" system works.

Ranked voting is one potential way around that, but there are many other obstacles in the way.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 5:17:57 PM EDT
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What "system" is that?  We don't have a system, we have 1,000 different methods for elections, depending on state and jurisdiction.  Hell, we can't even use a standardized ballot and counting method in one state, much less 2 counties here in WA.

California & Washington have a "top 2 only" primary method for deciding candidates for the general election, with CA even taking away the "write in" option.  That's different than other states, and nearly the exact opposite of Maine.

What you can be sure of, is that whoever proposed the particular method (Top 2, ranked, etc.) did the analysis to figure out the method that best benefitted their party.  Heavy Dem states have adopted Top 2, which has given many areas the choice of 2 Democrats, but rarely 2 Republicans.  Ranked choice also tends to favor the "majority" party, and gives the voters the illusion of their "vote matters."

Maine is fucked up from the perspective though that they don't use "Ranked Choice" for all their races, just some.  It's not consistent, which is bullshit.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 5:27:59 PM EDT
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I don't understand why the Republicans are standing by and letting this happen.
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Because they are, with a few exceptions, a bunch of fucking pussys who's only beliefs are keeping their office and doing favors for their friends.

The dumb fucks think they can accomplich this by appeasement and have never caught on to the fact the voters they are trying to appease will never vote for them.

Rick Scott could have removed Snipes from office based on her previous illegal actions.  But he didn't and now we're paying for it.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 5:50:53 PM EDT
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One person one vote.  Not one person a vote and six mulligans.  The constitutionality if the law is suspect based on that alone.  The Maine supreme court brought that up earlier but strangely said that it should be decided later.  
Today's decision only said that ranked choice should proceed and did not address the constitutional issue.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 9:00:16 PM EDT
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ranked choice is a precursor to what they ( the socialists) would like to implement elsewhere. Maine is the test bed they can point to saying "see!!!! it works!!!!!"

Fucking transplants and out of state millions made it happen, along with gullible, stupid old school lifetime democrats/socialists here.

Easy way for socialists to make sure they have the "votes".

It is a bunch of bullshit.  One vote........... one fucking vote....... not  "we will just combine 3rd party votes to the second party for the win."
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 9:04:34 PM EDT
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As I said in the dupe thread...

Maine has been the gimme gimme state for a LONG time. Just because they accidentally elected a Republican here and there didn’t make that go away. Shit, if it wasn’t for their programs at every level, 3/4 of their populace would die. Now I am making a blanket statement here but it is based on first hand knowledge. They have become a soft, incompetent, citizenry. They invite unskilled low life’s to their shores. They celebrate it in fact. This is not who Mainiacs used to be. RIP MAINE.
Link Posted: 11/15/2018 9:10:25 PM EDT
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Something to keep in mind here is that the country isn't divided 50/50. Most of the country doesn't follow or care about politics enough to vote.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/U.S._Vote_for_President_as_Population_Share.png/500px-U.S._Vote_for_President_as_Population_Share.png

You'll note that in the past even fewer Americans could be bothered to do their civic duty.
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meh been fairly constant, look at the dates on that chart... participation roughly double with womens suffereage
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 2:52:12 AM EDT
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What "system" is that?  We don't have a system, we have 1,000 different methods for elections, depending on state and jurisdiction.  Hell, we can't even use a standardized ballot and counting method in one state, much less 2 counties here in WA.

California & Washington have a "top 2 only" primary method for deciding candidates for the general election, with CA even taking away the "write in" option.  That's different than other states, and nearly the exact opposite of Maine.

What you can be sure of, is that whoever proposed the particular method (Top 2, ranked, etc.) did the analysis to figure out the method that best benefitted their party.  Heavy Dem states have adopted Top 2, which has given many areas the choice of 2 Democrats, but rarely 2 Republicans.  Ranked choice also tends to favor the "majority" party, and gives the voters the illusion of their "vote matters."

Maine is fucked up from the perspective though that they don't use "Ranked Choice" for all their races, just some.  It's not consistent, which is bullshit.
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Koalas might be fucking 'tarded, but ranked voting is a better system than the shit we have here in the US.
What "system" is that?  We don't have a system, we have 1,000 different methods for elections, depending on state and jurisdiction.  Hell, we can't even use a standardized ballot and counting method in one state, much less 2 counties here in WA.

California & Washington have a "top 2 only" primary method for deciding candidates for the general election, with CA even taking away the "write in" option.  That's different than other states, and nearly the exact opposite of Maine.

What you can be sure of, is that whoever proposed the particular method (Top 2, ranked, etc.) did the analysis to figure out the method that best benefitted their party.  Heavy Dem states have adopted Top 2, which has given many areas the choice of 2 Democrats, but rarely 2 Republicans.  Ranked choice also tends to favor the "majority" party, and gives the voters the illusion of their "vote matters."

Maine is fucked up from the perspective though that they don't use "Ranked Choice" for all their races, just some.  It's not consistent, which is bullshit.
People don't think states' rights be like it is, but it do.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 2:55:21 AM EDT
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Democrats are extremely dishonest and are proud of it.  To Democrats, lie, steal and cheat are signals of high intelligence.

Without vote fraud, Democrats could not win many elections.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:01:10 PM EDT
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People don't think states' rights be like it is, but it do.
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State's don't have "rights", they have "powers."  We shouldn't reinforce the idea that states have "rights".....

But as to your point, yes, each state is free to conduct elections as they see fit.  But even within the same state, they can't seem to conduct elections in the same way across all their own jurisdictions.  In WA we have 39 counties, and at least 39 different ways to mark and count ballots.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:15:05 PM EDT
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State's don't have "rights", they have "powers."  We shouldn't reinforce the idea that states have "rights".....

But as to your point, yes, each state is free to conduct elections as they see fit.  But even within the same state, they can't seem to conduct elections in the same way across all their own jurisdictions.  In WA we have 39 counties, and at least 39 different ways to mark and count ballots.
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States have rights relative to each other and to other levels of government in a federation, confederation, or other union.  You shouldn't confuse that with an assertion that they have rights like a person has a natural or civil right.  The word has different meanings and applications depending on the context.  State's Rights are indeed a real thing.

The States, as sovereign entities, have all sovereign rights except those ceded to or shared with the Federal government (where the government chooses to exercise it in a manner which conflicts with the State).  This applies to elections, although the powers regarding places, manners, and times for Congressional elections are shared, with the Feds having primacy.  But without a proscription of ranked choice voting, or prescriptioon of a method which excludes it, States retain the right to choose this method of election for such races.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:21:40 PM EDT
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States rights issue. Maine decided to make this election policy.
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States rights, yes. But this will be another reliable anti gun vote.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:22:50 PM EDT
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One person one vote.  Not one person a vote and six mulligans.  The constitutionality if the law is suspect based on that alone.  The Maine supreme court brought that up earlier but strangely said that it should be decided later.  
Today's decision only said that ranked choice should proceed and did not address the constitutional issue.  
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One person, one vote, one value is not something you'll find anywhere in the Constitution for the United States.  It is a dotrine the Warren Court fabricated to prohibit States from using anything but population to apportion legislatures or structure other elections, which is something that the Left had wanted and which has and continues to further their cause (it's why the ities are such a problem now; before the Reapportionment Cases, the majority of States had mechanisms to deal with this problem).  Something that violates that doctrine is not inherently unconstitutional or even suspect if we read the Constitution only as originally understood or take it at its plain meaning.  The Constitution gives some prescriptive power to Congress regarding Congressional elections, which Congress can choose to exercise or not, but it does not prescribe or proscribe election methods itself.  Ranked choice violates no part of the Federal constitution.

If that doctrine is embodied in the Maine Constitution, that's another matter, although I'm not aware of that being the case.  From what I understand this method only conflicts with the Maine Constitution for certain elections, exclusive of Congressional ones (or maybe Federal ones in general).
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:25:25 PM EDT
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All instant runoff ballot designs have some flaws (FPTP is also deeply flawed as well) but it was the law going into the election.   Democrats steal elections when they get judges to change the rulez in the middle or after.  This was not a change in rules.

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That's what it sounds like to me, as well.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:27:20 PM EDT
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For those of you who know nothing about Maine politics
Maine 2nd District has been the Republican base of the state.
It went for Trump in 2016.

What happens when the ballot box becomes invalid........
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Correct.

This was the turning point for maine.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:34:35 PM EDT
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As I said in the dupe thread...

Maine has been the gimme gimme state for a LONG time. Just because they accidentally elected a Republican here and there didn’t make that go away. Shit, if it wasn’t for their programs at every level, 3/4 of their populace would die. Now I am making a blanket statement here but it is based on first hand knowledge. They have become a soft, incompetent, citizenry. They invite unskilled low life’s to their shores. They celebrate it in fact. This is not who Mainiacs used to be. RIP MAINE.
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Long time has been 50+ years.

Most folks here think seasonal work is a great way to have summers off.
Link Posted: 11/16/2018 9:54:58 PM EDT
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Long time has been 50+ years.

Most folks here think seasonal work is a great way to have summers off.
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As I said in the dupe thread...

Maine has been the gimme gimme state for a LONG time. Just because they accidentally elected a Republican here and there didn't make that go away. Shit, if it wasn't for their programs at every level, 3/4 of their populace would die. Now I am making a blanket statement here but it is based on first hand knowledge. They have become a soft, incompetent, citizenry. They invite unskilled low life's to their shores. They celebrate it in fact. This is not who Mainiacs used to be. RIP MAINE.
Long time has been 50+ years.

Most folks here think seasonal work is a great way to have summers off.
50+ years ago when there was approximately the peak amount of 26 paper / pulp mills in the state .... ::blinks:: In the "second district" there were about 11 mills within about 1.25 to 1.5 hrs of Bangor. Wonder how all of those mills worked on a day to day basis and manned their outages.

THOSE LAZY MILL AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS OF YESTERYEAR!
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