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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:17:33 PM EDT
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banana republic

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:25:15 PM EDT
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. “It’s crazy in America that you still have to navigate an obstacle course to get to the ballot box.”
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But will navigate an American Ninja obstacle course at Target on Black Friday for 10% off hair products or discounted Nike shoes...


Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:28:51 PM EDT
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When I was in Iraq were were taking fire while escorting people to vote.

They still walked miles to do so and were proud when they did.

Some didn't make it.

Go through that once and then tell me the hardships of voting in America.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:30:57 PM EDT
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Federal control of state elections.

I'm sure that won't be used to unify rules that all states must have mail-in ballots and use the same model of electronic vote machine - and no one can check IDs since that's racist.

Anyone silly enough to still believe that "we'll get them in 2022/2024"?
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 4:46:21 PM EDT
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Not sure why people are saying they don't believe them.  They want to make voting easier, just like this did this past year with mail in ballots.  Having 30 days to check a box and drop an envelope in the mail is a lot easier that waiting until the single election day, driving there, waiting in a line for hours, voting, and then driving home.

It is a common known sales practice the easier you make a process the more engagement you get.  The Democrats nailed that with mail in voting and their results (including the amount of fraud) speak for themselves.  Republicans actively discouraged people from mail in voting, instead telling them to only vote in person on election day the way God intended it to be.

The best explanation of why mail in voting worked so well for the Democrats is this.  Imagine for 30 days you are constantly bombarded with TV and radio ads, web ads, and mailers.  Republicans just had to suffer through them and take no action for those 30 days. The Democrats, for those 30 days, if a single message/ad struck a cord with them had a ballot sitting there that they could fill out and drop in the mail.  From a sales standpoint what the Republicans did was extremely stupid and obviously was going to produce lower results.  

*note: I'm not saying things should be that way but this how everyone knew things were going to be last year and the Republicans shot themselves in the foot in swing states.  The Dems are going to use that to expand mail in voting in the future.  The days of only voting in person on a single day are dead/done.

My view on voting would be only people who pay taxes above the standard deduction or have paid taxes for 30 years should have the right to vote.  Limit the ability for people to pick how the money is spent to those who pay taxes.
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Yup. Mail-in voting worked so well in Pennsylvania that they sent out 1.8M ballots, officially received 1.4M ballots, and counted 2.5M mail-in ballots.

Do you think that trusting the USPS to get ballots delivered on time is a good thing?  I ordered a bicycle part from Pennsylvania on December 18 - it never arrived (today is January 23).  According to the tracking, it never left the origin post office.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:06:22 PM EDT
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lol

There are people here that still think the pendulum is going to swing back in 2 or 4 years. Universal mail in voting and possibly online voting is what they mean. Personally I think they should just have an 1-800 number to call in your vote like on American Idol or we can all vote through Facebook or Twitter. May as well save the paper and postage because the end results will be the same.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:11:16 PM EDT
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Democrats, asserting constitutional authority to set the time, place and manner of federal elections, want national rules they say would make voting more uniform, accessible and fair across the nation.



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except election laws are made by the each state legislature.

unless there's a natural disaster like the rona, then fuck the constitution in that case
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:16:49 PM EDT
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was listening to a VDH broadcast a week or so ago about what comes next, and amongst the delights he enumerated was that of voting mechanics... he said something like 30-40% mail in before 2020(nationally) turned into 60% this go-round.... he speculated that the democrats would immediately move to push that to 90%..
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:17:39 PM EDT
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If you pay taxes you can vote. If you do not pay taxes and are a welfare societal leech, you don’t get to tell me what to do.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:19:44 PM EDT
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All they want to do is make fraud more easier to perpetuate.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:23:08 PM EDT
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Election Day should be a Holiday so people don't need to squeeze in before or after work. I suggest Veteran's Day. It would take a Constitutional amendment but would honor veterans for what they are fighting for.

I prefer paper ballots that can be recounted by hand. Such as in Georgia's Hand count.

No one should need to wait in line more than 30 minutes to vote. Three hours or more is ridiculous , especially on a work day.

All ballots are subject to signature matching. But with mail in ballots , human observers couldn't easily challenge Donte's signature and not challenge Bob's. Georgia 2018 had 4 times the objections to nonwhite voters as to white voters.

Any one whose mail in ballot is thrown out for signature mismatch should be informed. This would expose any fraudulent signatures. The voter should be able to correct their signature on ballot or give a new signature- ID should be required here.

Everyone should be able to get state ID that is not a Drivers license for a small fee. Many people don't drive and don't drink either-so don't get state ID to buy Alcohol. Shocking but true. A lot of Christians do not drink, especially the women.

California has the highest percentage of eligible adults that have Drivers licensees, at 86 percent. So 14 % of eligible drivers do not have a drivers license , Of that some will be in the 16-18 range so not eligible to vote But many eligible voters do not have a drivers license.

Kansas has the lowest percentage of people of eligible age that hold a Drivers license. I couldn't find the actual percentage but every state has to have at 14 % or more people who are eligible but do not have a drivers license.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:23:46 PM EDT
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there is no reason we couldn't have a publicly available block chain voting system with embedded gps and voter data.

anyone, anywhere, in near real time, could see the votes flow in. no BS counting, its written to the chain and forever there it will be.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:25:20 PM EDT
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When I was in Iraq were were taking fire while escorting people to vote.

They still walked miles to do so and were proud when they did.

Some didn't make it.

Go through that once and then tell me the hardships of voting in America.
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I had to stand in line for like 20 minutes.  How dare you minimize my pain.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:27:24 PM EDT
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was listening to a VDH broadcast a week or so ago about what comes next, and amongst the delights he enumerated was that of voting mechanics... he said something like 30-40% mail in before 2020(nationally) turned into 60% this go-round.... he speculated that the democrats would immediately move to push that to 90%..
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Why stop there?  Let's aim for 110% mail in.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:28:00 PM EDT
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in person voting with voter id expanded to 10 days or so instead of just election day. Texas does it, it works

until 2020 when king abbot decided to make it even longer, and the dems tried to expand mail-in voting for pretty much anyone. it took the 5th circuit to shut that shit down about a week before the election.

still had fraud, including drive-through voting in harris county after judges specially ordered them not to do so

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:28:19 PM EDT
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Democrats won't be happy until you can pick up a whole stack of ballots wherever you do your grocery shopping, take them home, and fill out as many or as few as you have the wherewithal to fill out...
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And those piles will be available at the southern border. Grab a stack as you come on in!
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:29:54 PM EDT
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When I was in Iraq were were taking fire while escorting people to vote.

They still walked miles to do so and were proud when they did.

Some didn't make it.

Go through that once and then tell me the hardships of voting in America.
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I was just thinking about the Iraqis.  They had a more honest election than we just did.

Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:30:16 PM EDT
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Election Day should be a Holiday so people don't need to squeeze in before or after work.
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You do realize that a large portion of the population doesn't get a holiday off?

And if you can't be bothered to find 30 minutes to vote then the problem is with you.  
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:32:34 PM EDT
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Well that didn't take long.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:39:55 PM EDT
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Mail in votes with concurrent mail in registration.  No proof of legal eligibility allowed
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 5:40:08 PM EDT
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You guys realize they mean Dominion in every location, month long voting plus everyone gets a ballot mailed to them and no citizenship or ID proof required.
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Probably not too far off.

From the article: "The bill would mandate early voting, same-day registration, and other long-sought reforms some critics reject as federal overreach."

Here's a link to the fact sheet for the legislation:

H.R. 1, the For the People Act

Sounds like fun: "H.R. 1 will create automatic voter registration across the country, ensure that individuals who have completed felony sentences have their full voting rights restored, expand early voting and enhance absentee voting, simplify voting by mail, reduce long lines and wait times for voters and modernize America’s voting system."

So yeah, it's about what you'd expect from the fascist party in 2021.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:05:54 PM EDT
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“People just want to be able to cast their vote without it being an ordeal,” said Rep. John Sarbanes, a Democrat from Maryland who is the lead sponsor of the House bill. “It’s crazy in America that you still have to navigate an obstacle course to get to the ballot box.”"

What obstacle course?  You go to the polling center, wait your turn and vote.

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they are starting a new narrative to pass mail in voting ONLY, mandated nation wide
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:10:22 PM EDT
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They're going to make every state a swing state model so they lose none going forward.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:32:55 AM EDT
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they are starting a new narrative to pass mail in voting ONLY, mandated nation wide
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“People just want to be able to cast their vote without it being an ordeal,” said Rep. John Sarbanes, a Democrat from Maryland who is the lead sponsor of the House bill. “It’s crazy in America that you still have to navigate an obstacle course to get to the ballot box.”"

What obstacle course?  You go to the polling center, wait your turn and vote.



they are starting a new narrative to pass mail in voting ONLY, mandated nation wide

Mail in voting is too hard.  Can they just text me?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 12:33:47 AM EDT
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So exactly the opposite?
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 1:30:06 AM EDT
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You guys realize they mean Dominion in every location, month long voting plus everyone gets a ballot mailed to them and no citizenship or ID proof required.
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Exactly. It's proven to be a good system to truly represent 'democracy'.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 1:40:59 AM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 1:47:46 AM EDT
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The opposite.  They will push for universal mail in ballots, meaning every person on the voter rolls is automatically mailed a ballot and of course no signature verification will be required.  That way they can harvest all the ballots from people, including the dead.  

Cleaning up the voter rolls is a very difficult process.  Unless notified it takes a state a minimum of 10 years to remove someone from the rolls.  In my state they had a list of 220,000 names that needed to be removed, the Democrats sued and stopped the clean up.  Many states have not cleaned up their rolls in over 20 years.  Everyone on record would be sent a ballot.


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hell they have already introduced it
https://patriots.win/p/11SJxqJtDh/-democrats-introduce-their-first/

e registration. no id mandatory mail in and early voting. no challenging voter rolls, same day reg....
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:20:05 AM EDT
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hell they have already introduced it
https://patriots.win/p/11SJxqJtDh/-democrats-introduce-their-first/

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Internet registration.

16 year old voters.

lol

"We'll get em in 2022 guys."
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:42:47 AM EDT
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there is no reason we couldn't have a publicly available block chain voting system with embedded gps and voter data.

anyone, anywhere, in near real time, could see the votes flow in. no BS counting, its written to the chain and forever there it will be.
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This. You send in a ballot an pick a code (PIN, whatever) that allows you to decrypt your vote later... that way after-the-fact, you can get online and open your vote, verify that it was recorded and that it was what you submitted.

Link Posted: 1/24/2021 2:46:47 AM EDT
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The Constitution specifically gives the State legislatures the authority to make election laws. Not the Feds.
This needs to be challenged by the states.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:44:53 AM EDT
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Democrats, asserting constitutional authority to set the time, place and manner of federal elections, want national rules they say would make voting more uniform, accessible and fair across the nation.



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Translation from Democraps: We mastered the ability to rig and win elections, including the Presidency, and now we are going to standardize the rules to ensure Republicans never win the Presidency again, ever.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 3:53:59 AM EDT
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Thumb prints on each ballot to prove identity.
Bonus when those thumb prints get flagged and show that a felon is trying to vote, disqualifying the ballot.
Double bonus that you now have the finger prints of people that may be future felons, removing them from the voting pool altogether.
The only ones against such a thing could be asked the simple question: "why, you thinking about doing something illegal in the future?"

Winner Winner
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:13:38 AM EDT
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So the election that had record high turnout, zero fraud and zero foreign interference (per Dems and the MSM) is the impetus to say it’s too hard to vote?  

Also, I have to say the math simply doesn’t work. 159,000,000 votes were cast, and that was supposedly 66.7% turnout. That means there are 238,000,000 “voter-eligible citizens” in the US?  238MM out 331MM people = 72% of the US population is over 18, a US citizen and not a felon?  Bullshit.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:36:12 AM EDT
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“People just want to be able to cast their vote without it being an ordeal,” said Rep. John Sarbanes, a Democrat from Maryland who is the lead sponsor of the House bill. “It’s crazy in America that you still have to navigate an obstacle course to get to the ballot box.”"

What obstacle course?  You go to the polling center, wait your turn and vote.

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Have you ever seen an infomercial for a shitty product that solves an issue no one actually has?  The kind where they show some housewife failing to use a pen, or some other menial bullshit in order to show how much you need their worthless product?

This is a lot like that.  They have a "solution" for a problem that doesn't exist.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:38:31 AM EDT
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I don't think this is a bad thing.

Unless Democrats want it.
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Did you read the link? They want to mandate early voting, same day registration and all of the other obviously exploitable shit.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:39:53 AM EDT
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Lemme guess, it, in absolutely no way at all, starts with voter ID
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That's not accessible or equitable. Don't you know that voter ID is racist. And good luck trying to implement it now that the federal gov is telling you how to run your election.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:40:36 AM EDT
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It's time to secede.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:42:23 AM EDT
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You are making the assumption that mail in votes will be counted fairly. That's a big assumption.
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They definitely will be counted carefully. It provides vital intelligence on how many fabricated votes they'll need to hide on election day.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 4:44:37 AM EDT
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Only a domestic terrorist would say this.
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People used to walk, ride horses, take trains, etc to vote.  All of a sudden, riding public transportation to a polling location is an obstacle.


Only a domestic terrorist would say this.

No need to get fancy, it's racist. Poor people have less access to services and black people are disproportionately poor so it's racist.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:41:31 AM EDT
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Democrats never say what they mean. They want Federal election stealing to be easier.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:53:14 AM EDT
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All they want to do is make fraud more easier to perpetuate.
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Bingo.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 5:56:14 AM EDT
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And those piles will be available at the southern border. Grab a stack as you come on in!
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There will be DNC volunteers waiting to sign them up. They purposely attend all cultural fairs here looking to register anybody and get them to join the party too...
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 6:19:05 AM EDT
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There goes the secret ballot.

What? This guy voted for who?

Go back and get his ip addresss chase him down and shoot him!

Link Posted: 1/24/2021 6:54:38 AM EDT
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“Easy” shouldn’t be the most important attribute of our election system.  Seriously, it’s shocking simple already.
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. “It’s crazy in America that you still have to navigate an obstacle course to get to the ballot box.”


“Easy” shouldn’t be the most important attribute of our election system.  Seriously, it’s shocking simple already.



This is just plain lies.  Voting is one of the easiest things i've ever done in my life.  Even when I voted absentee while in college.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 6:59:33 AM EDT
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Not sure why people are saying they don't believe them.  They want to make voting easier, just like this did this past year with mail in ballots.  Having 30 days to check a box and drop an envelope in the mail is a lot easier that waiting until the single election day, driving there, waiting in a line for hours, voting, and then driving home.

It is a common known sales practice the easier you make a process the more engagement you get.  The Democrats nailed that with mail in voting and their results (including the amount of fraud) speak for themselves.  Republicans actively discouraged people from mail in voting, instead telling them to only vote in person on election day the way God intended it to be.
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Not here in Georgia. Our republican SoS ran tv commercials for months encouraging people to vote by mail.
Link Posted: 1/24/2021 9:20:56 AM EDT
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There’s a reason they met in San Francisco
2020 Presidential Candidates Rally at California Democratic Convention in San Francisco
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