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Posted: 1/25/2021 6:29:03 PM EDT
https://nationalfile.com/democrat-patrick-leahy-to-preside-over-trump-impeachment-trial-instead-of-chief-justice-roberts/
This tells me the Dems knew better than to even bother approaching Chief Justice John Roberts with this sham, knowing he'd refuse to preside over it. What a farce. The US is now officially a Banana Republic. |
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Roberts is a sham. He hates President Trump and is a RINO appointed by a RINO.
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Maybe Schumer will get the hint that winning a conviction is near impossible and forget the whole fucking thing. Not likely of course, but the whole thing is a pure, revenge seeking scam.
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When they are done with impeachment they will segue into treason. Trump will regret not crossing the Rubicon when he had the chance.
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I heard they found out Roberts said he would not preside since Trump isn’t president and the trial was moot.
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Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. View Quote Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. |
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I posted in a dupe thread, that if Roberts did not show up and take his place (displacing anyone sitting there), then we have crossed the threshold. It is impossible to read the Constitution any other way, impossible to twist what is plainly prescribed.
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Quoted: Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. [dem]No problem muh living breathing document and 2A doesn't actually mean what the words say[/dem] |
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Quoted: Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. Hell, our president is the guy who lost the election. Nothing matters anymore. They do what they want and no one stands up to them. |
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Sorry but what's the constitutional justification for having an impeachment trial for someone that is a private citizen now?
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Quoted: I posted in a dupe thread, that if Roberts did not show up and take his place (displacing anyone sitting there), then we have crossed the threshold. It is impossible to read the Constitution any other way, impossible to twist what is plainly prescribed. View Quote Right, lol, *that's* the threshold... |
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Quoted: I heard they found out Roberts said he would not preside since Trump isn’t president and the trial was moot. View Quote Where do they derive the constitutional authority to appoint anyone else to preside over this? It's the chief justice's exclusive duty to preside over an impeachment trial. He could/should throw this out because it applies strictly to a sitting president, not a former one. Roberts should be removed for refusing to fullfill his obligation. Tar & feather the rest. |
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Quoted: I posted in a dupe thread, that if Roberts did not show up and take his place (displacing anyone sitting there), then we have crossed the threshold. It is impossible to read the Constitution any other way, impossible to twist what is plainly prescribed. View Quote They seem to be arguing both sides of the position. He's not the President and therefore the Chief Justice shouldn't preside, but they want to use the penalty for a sitting president at the same time. |
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Roberts kinda has a conflict in that the SCOTUS is probably going to be in the position to decide if congress has any authority to convict a private citizen.
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Quoted: Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. Trump is not the current president, though he is the rightful president. |
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Imagine a foreign communist power institutes a puppet american government and that government does exactly the opposite of what the US Constitution says.
50 years ago we would have nuked half the planet for much less. |
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Arfcom Lawyers:
Could Trump sue the involed's personal esate for holding an illegal trial/if they claim he was convivted? |
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Can't impeach a private citizen, and as far as I know, Trump is a private citizen once again. If they really wanted to impeach him, they shouldn't have stolen the election.
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Quoted: Where do they derive the constitutional authority to appoint anyone else to preside over this? It's the chief justice's exclusive duty to preside over an impeachment trial. He could/should throw this out because it applies strictly to a sitting president, not a former one. Roberts should be removed for refusing to fullfill his obligation. Tar & feather the rest. View Quote The Constitution is very clear. |
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Yet another shining example of our duly elected members of Congress wasting our tax dollars
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It’s a kangaroo court.
You can’t impeach a private citizen and the Chief Justice is constitutionally required to preside. |
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Quoted: Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. Seems to me that you stop before the Chief Justice part in this case. FJB is President of the United States. |
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Amazing. There are now multiple layers of farce.
We're really chugging right along into the depths of looney-land aren't we. |
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They need two thirds of the senate votes to convict. The question is how many rinos can they get to vote with them.
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Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. View Quote |
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Quoted: It’s a kangaroo court. You can’t impeach a private citizen and the Chief Justice is constitutionally required to preside. View Quote Absolutely this. Let's hear more about how we all need to "Unify", while we hold an unconstitutional impeachment trial, presided over by someone who CLEARLY cannot be impartial with respect to the defendant, not to mention not legally allowed to preside -- all because of our blinding TrumpHate. Since the Constitution no longer matters, I truly don't know why they even bother with a 'trial' and just don't go directly to proclaiming a "verdict" and issuing their punishment. Honestly. It wouldn't be any worse. |
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They know that they have no legal means of impeaching DJT. This is all a sham show, like judge judy. The will "convict" with 51 votes and the media will proclaim that DJT has been "impeached"! It will have no legal basis but that's irrelevant. 50% of the people in the country will accept that he was convicted. The other 50% will just be one step closer to the inevitable conclusion.
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Quoted: Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law. Seems to me, no Chief Justice = unconstitutional impeachment. Not that that matters. It is not a Constitutional impeachment of a President without the Chief Justice presiding over a trial of a sitting President, and even Roberts knows that. He's not going to be dragged into playing silly reindeer games with the radical left. |
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Quoted: I posted in a dupe thread, that if Roberts did not show up and take his place (displacing anyone sitting there), then we have crossed the threshold. It is impossible to read the Constitution any other way, impossible to twist what is plainly prescribed. View Quote A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed. We crossed that threshold a long long time ago. |
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Well, that speaks volumes about their Constitutional standing doesn't it.
In my opinion the Impeachment is a critical strategic error of epic proportions on the part of the Democrats in the Senate, but so be it. The more time they spend on such a farce the less time they have to dedicate themselves to other efforts that might actually impact my life. It will further divide this nation and increase partisan divisions in the Congress. |
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