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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:57:22 AM EDT
 Why do FFLs need badges? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:59:19 AM EDT
[#1]
Backstory? MA has all kinds of dumbshit gun laws, I assume dealers are exempt from most of them. MA is also full of Karens and snitches. Stupid as it is to have such a badge, I’m guessing it’s intended to preempt problems. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:01:33 AM EDT
[#2]
Fuck Massachusetts
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:04:50 AM EDT
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There is no indication that is a Massachusetts thing. It appears to be the FFL equivalent of those douchey CCW badges and was made for a guy from Mass.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:24:19 AM EDT
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the DA and ADA's can get badges in PA, but they have to pay for them.
Although, that at least makes sense since they are technically law enforcement, but ya...an FFL badge seems like gun counter employee wet dream stuff  Speed |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:28:54 AM EDT
[#5]
Huh, I've never seen that before. I've also never heard any of the FFLs that I know mention them. I don't think that's really a thing.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:29:42 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck Massachusetts |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:29:56 AM EDT
[#7]
Are cops exempt from the 10 round cap is masshole like they are in Californiaistan?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are cops exempt from the 10 round cap is masshole like they are in Californiaistan? They are exempt from the awb, even after they retire. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:41:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are exempt from the awb, even after they retire. Nice |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:03:02 AM EDT
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I had an FFL while living in MA during the 90s. We didn't need no stinking badges. Some idiot probably had it made if the pic isn't photoshopped.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:04:40 AM EDT
[#11]
I wonder if someone had it made to calm down Karens in a liberal state when they were transporting guns?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:05:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are exempt from the awb, even after they retire. I thought they could keep their normal capacity duty magazines only if the PD officially gave them to the LEO at retirement. That's not the case? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:06:02 AM EDT
[#13]
This is not fair. I want a badge.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:06:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if someone had it made to calm down Karens in a liberal state when they were transporting guns? That’s exactly what I was thinking. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:19:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they could keep their normal capacity duty magazines only if the PD officially gave them to the LEO at retirement. That's not the case? As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:21:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:22:38 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding is that the Mass AWB is a copy of the Clinton AWB. Depends on the interpretation of it, it can change on the whim of the state AG |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:23:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding is that the Mass AWB is a copy of the Clinton AWB. Yes, with no sunset. And an AG who has more recently attempted to (illegally) claim that postban compliant guns are covered by it. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:26:21 AM EDT
[#19]
Respect muh 4473!
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:40:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My understanding is that the Mass AWB is a copy of the Clinton AWB. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131M The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (i) the possession by a law enforcement officer; or (ii) the possession by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving such a weapon or feeding device from such agency upon retirement. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:40:32 AM EDT
[#21]
I sent that pic to a cop/ffl that I know and his response was "wtf is that hahaha". Safe to say it's not a real thing.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:42:05 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryLooks like a was given bad information, not that it's likely to be enforced. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:44:04 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:46:47 AM EDT
[#24]
Ma. Is a throughly corrupt state, the laws as they are here are just suggestions that the officials use here to control things
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:48:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. My understanding is that the Mass AWB is a copy of the Clinton AWB. https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131M The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (i) the possession by a law enforcement officer; or (ii) the possession by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving such a weapon or feeding device from such agency upon retirement. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:49:46 AM EDT
[#26]
The Spirit of America
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:52:04 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a MA cop can only keep mags from the agency, they can't buy their own. Correct. Once they retire, they can't buy new, normal capacity mags. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:52:25 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Spirit of America  "Spirit of Massachusetts" commercial - 1987  1987 Spirit of Massachusetts is The Spirit of America Commercial |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:53:30 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a MA cop can only keep mags from the agency, they can't buy their own. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As far as I know they are exempt. That could have changed or I could have been given bad information but as far as I know they can have whatever they want. My understanding is that the Mass AWB is a copy of the Clinton AWB. https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section131M The provisions of this section shall not apply to: (i) the possession by a law enforcement officer; or (ii) the possession by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving such a weapon or feeding device from such agency upon retirement. And LEOSA is subject to mag cap limits. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:03:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:04:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And LEOSA is subject to mag cap limits. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:09:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Stupid MA Gun Laws = Exhibit A:
I have a MA Non Res Carry License (I have had it for about 15 years). I live in a neighboring state but conduct business in MA. MA gun stores cannot sell me ammo. They can only sell ammo to MA residence. I can walk into a MA gun store, show them my state carry license, my MA State carry license (issued by the MA Dept. of Public Safety), and the response will be: For a counter person or store owner to quickly grab the ammo boxes off the counter, and be sternly told (sneered at), that unless you have a MA FID card and you live in MA, "NO AMMO FOR YOU!". |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:09:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LEOSA has always been subject to mag and AWB limits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And LEOSA is subject to mag cap limits. Didn’t know that leosa was limited to mag restrictions. That’s gotta be a real pain in the ass if you travel a lot. I carry (legally) in both MD and VA pretty much daily. Not on leosa. Not having to worry about mag limits is nice. Or not having to fear getting jammed up for carrying a standard capacity magazine, at least. Saw a g19x 10rd mag in a MD shop the other day. Such a waste 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:10:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if someone had it made to calm down Karens in a liberal state when they were transporting guns? Very possible this. You would be surprised at the three things that seem to calm Karens and Kens down. 1. A badge. I once flashed a (no shit) Post Toasties Junior G-man badge at someone once years ago and they settled right down. 2. An official looking uniform. Doesn't have to be a LEO or .mil just something that LOOKS OFFICIAL. 3. Last but not least, the Official short sleeved white shirt, dark tie, pocket protector, dark slacks and the amazing CLIPBOARD. You can pass yourself off as any kind of non LEO/.mil official. The same Karens that would get upset over some guy carrying a Daisy Red Ryder down the street will feel safe and secure seeing someone in a badge, uniform or both walking down the street carrying an M-60. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:12:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Between this and the school crossing guard badge/sash thread you must be trolling ebay for some kind of badge.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:14:26 PM EDT
[#36]
They don’t.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:30:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Between this and the school crossing guard badge/sash thread you must be trolling ebay for some kind of badge. I doubt it. IIRC the OP is a retired cop of some sort. He's likely have all the badges he wanted. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:35:49 PM EDT
[#38]
It is kind of weird how Massachusetts flies under the radar as probably the worst state in America.
Everyone is so busy shitting on CA and NY all the time, MA hardly comes up. Yet the laws are just as bad and the people are even worse in my opinion. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:40:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is kind of weird how Massachusetts flies under the radar as probably the worst state in America. Everyone is so busy shitting on CA and NY all the time, MA hardly comes up. Yet the laws are just as bad and the people are even worse in my opinion. I'm from mass, I hate this liberal hellhole and can't wait to leave. That said, its definitely better than NY and probably better than CA as far as guns go. You can get around almost all of the bullshit if you are willing to pay a bit more. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:43:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm from mass, I hate this liberal hellhole and can't wait to leave. That said, its definitely better than NY and probably better than CA as far as guns go. You can get around almost all of the bullshit if you are willing to pay a bit more. It does seem there are workarounds, or FFLs willing to be creative. I always put in my FS ads that I'm willing to ship to ban states and I've shipped to MA more than a few times but they did have some unusual requests to help them get around the BS. I think to beat the handgun roster and trigger pull requirement some FFLs are transferring just the frames, for instance. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:44:50 PM EDT
[#41]
i don't know what a bullet button is
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:46:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm from mass, I hate this liberal hellhole and can't wait to leave. That said, its definitely better than NY and probably better than CA as far as guns go. You can get around almost all of the bullshit if you are willing to pay a bit more. This is how it works here |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:48:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It does seem there are workarounds, or FFLs willing to be creative. I always put in my FS ads that I'm willing to ship to ban states and I've shipped to MA more than a few times but they did have some unusual requests to help them get around the BS. I think to beat the handgun roster and trigger pull requirement some FFLs are transferring just the frames, for instance. There are also a lot of cops who are exempt from the handgun roster that have a habit of buying new glocks and then deciding they don't like them after a week without even taking them to the range and then selling them for 800 bucks. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are also a lot of cops who are exempt from the handgun roster that have a habit of buying new glocks and then deciding they don't like them after a week without even taking them to the range and then selling them for 800 bucks. and as of late the Feds have prosecuted a few. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are also a lot of cops who are exempt from the handgun roster that have a habit of buying new glocks and then deciding they don't like them after a week without even taking them to the range and then selling them for 800 bucks. Common in CA too. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and as of late the Feds have prosecuted a few. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are also a lot of cops who are exempt from the handgun roster that have a habit of buying new glocks and then deciding they don't like them after a week without even taking them to the range and then selling them for 800 bucks. and as of late the Feds have prosecuted a few. Seems like it would be easy to get caught doing that with the way MA tracks private sales. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like it would be easy to get caught doing that with the way MA tracks private sales. They only prosecute to make a point or to get back at someone, keep your head down and it won't be cut off (usually), we are all guilty of something in ma. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:02:10 PM EDT
[#48]
im still waiting to get pulled over for having my ball hitch in the receiver
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not fair. I want a badge. https://maxarmory.com/collections/custom-engraved-badges There used to be a few places advertised in the back of gun mags long ago |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:43:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like it would be easy to get caught doing that with the way MA tracks private sales. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are also a lot of cops who are exempt from the handgun roster that have a habit of buying new glocks and then deciding they don't like them after a week without even taking them to the range and then selling them for 800 bucks. and as of late the Feds have prosecuted a few. Seems like it would be easy to get caught doing that with the way MA tracks private sales. |
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