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Posted: 11/23/2022 9:54:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: greyninja]
...from Twitter to CIA/DHS/FBI/NSA contracts...
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“Many talented people have been impacted by layoffs in the past few months and with the holidays approaching, this is a tough time to be without work,” John Heyliger, Lockheed Martin’s vice president of talent acquisition, wrote on LinkedIn. “If you, or someone you know, has found themselves unexpectedly seeking new opportunities, my team and I are here to connect.”

https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2022/11/will-tech-layoffs-finally-help-defense-firms-get-engineers-they-seek/380118/
brownells
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 9:56:23 PM EST
[#1]
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 9:58:26 PM EST
[#2]
How many will pass their SF86
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 9:59:12 PM EST
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Most will, easily.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:03:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:

Most will, easily.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By FlatRangeOperator:
How many will pass their SF86

Most will, easily.


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:04:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
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Twitter employees are lazy twatters.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:06:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
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it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:08:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker:


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By FlatRangeOperator:
How many will pass their SF86

Most will, easily.


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.


They created the most significant global town hall possible. DoD could care less how they expand their creativity. These aren’t drone technicians.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:10:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
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Most of the valuable ones (engineers) aren't being shitcanned. I'm sure some will walk, but the bulk of the layoffs are "soft skill" types.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:11:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 01911:


They created the most significant global town hall possible. DoD could care less how they expand their creativity. These aren’t drone technicians.
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DoD most certainly does care especially if a clearance is involved.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:15:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By crazymoose:


Most of the valuable ones (engineers) aren't being shitcanned. I'm sure some will walk, but the bulk of the layoffs are "soft skill" types.
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That's the truth of it,   also factor in the potential new talent that might have either been kept out or just stayed away on their own due to the toxic environment at twitter for some.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:18:26 PM EST
[#11]
Sadly I suspect that a move for some twitter employees from twitter to a DOD/IC job is not that far of a move....  
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:26:33 PM EST
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it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.



it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:30:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By greyninja:
...from Twitter to CIA/DHS/FBI/NSA contracts...
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“Many talented people have been impacted by layoffs in the past few months and with the holidays approaching, this is a tough time to be without work,” John Heyliger, Lockheed Martin’s vice president of talent acquisition, wrote on LinkedIn. “If you, or someone you know, has found themselves unexpectedly seeking new opportunities, my team and I are here to connect.”

https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2022/11/will-tech-layoffs-finally-help-defense-firms-get-engineers-they-seek/380118/
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I would guess that the biggest talents at Twitter WERE Cooking the Books and Loafing.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:32:20 PM EST
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They would have to piss in a cup.
They'd never want the job.

And Uncle Sam certainly does give a damn about you double-dipping on him vs other employers on the same 40-hour work week.

Kharn
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:33:05 PM EST
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Sadly I suspect that a move for some twitter employees from twitter to a DOD/IC job is not that far of a move....  
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Same Job different office.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:34:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.
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Oh you can rest assured that there are very talented people that want to work for him no matter what the industry.  As far as those leaving go,  if they're not happy they should leave.  I wouldn't want disgruntled folks left with too much access.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:34:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:

Most will, easily.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By FlatRangeOperator:
How many will pass their SF86

Most will, easily.

Dude you crack me up I love reading your comments. Elon musk got rid of the fat
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:35:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
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Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:35:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Kharn:
They would have to piss in a cup.
They'd never want the job.

And Uncle Sam certainly does give a damn about you double-dipping on him vs other employers on the same 40-hour work week.

Kharn
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Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:36:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker:


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.
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You think they piss test?




Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:39:13 PM EST
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If you think shitbirds/people with casual drug use history aren't capable of getting or maintaining clearances, you haven't served long enough as military or DOD civilian personnel. I know people who smoked weed in school and got jobs at places like Booz Allen Hamilton, or were even on track to commissioning through ROTC.

Also you don't get piss tested working for beltway bandits, at least not for desk type work. Maybe handling vehicles or hazmat, sure, but I've never seen that in my career at companies supporting the DOD.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:40:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By juan223:



Oh you can rest assured that there are very talented people that want to work for him no matter what the industry.  As far as those leaving go,  if they're not happy they should leave.  I wouldn't want disgruntled folks left with too much access.
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Originally Posted By juan223:
Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.



Oh you can rest assured that there are very talented people that want to work for him no matter what the industry.  As far as those leaving go,  if they're not happy they should leave.  I wouldn't want disgruntled folks left with too much access.

Space X and Tesla both have pretty high turnover rates. So either Musk likes to hire lots of people he doesnt need, or people dont really want to work for him as much as they want his companys' names on their resumes
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:41:10 PM EST
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You think they piss test?




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Originally Posted By Handblown:
Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker:


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.



You think they piss test?





It really is funny that people still think this shit. It aint the Bush Administration anymore.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:49:01 PM EST
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You think they piss test?




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If they want to work for DoD they will.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:50:17 PM EST
[#25]
So they can leak more CIA software to foreigners?
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:51:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:

It really is funny that people still think this shit. It aint the Bush Administration anymore.
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Contract/clearance requirements didn't go away.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:53:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By juan223:



it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.



it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  

Agreed. And moreover, do those pudgy little halflings have what it takes to work in defense? If so, we are in trouble.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:53:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
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I spent some time working at American Airlines.  There is some great talent working there, but as one of the most talented persons I met there said, "This place will kill your work ethic."
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:54:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By juan223:
Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.



it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.

You are implying that they are leaving because the Musk acquisition stopped them from doing unique and amazing things.

Such as?
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 10:59:37 PM EST
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Another fake worker?
Is this person stupid enough to give up 3 months pay?
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:01:11 PM EST
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A few years back Google had a employee revolt over Google getting a DOD contract (GPS for drones?).  I don't think too many Twitter people will want to work for DOD,
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:15:19 PM EST
[#32]
Dear God. It has children's drawings on the fridge
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:19:27 PM EST
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The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.
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The dope smokers have 90 days paid to get clean.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:22:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:

It really is funny that people still think this shit. It aint the Bush Administration anymore.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By Handblown:
Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker:


The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork.



You think they piss test?





It really is funny that people still think this shit. It aint the Bush Administration anymore.

If they want to work in the IC, they'll piss.
Originally Posted By Apec:
If you think shitbirds/people with casual drug use history aren't capable of getting or maintaining clearances, you haven't served long enough as military or DOD civilian personnel. I know people who smoked weed in school and got jobs at places like Booz Allen Hamilton, or were even on track to commissioning through ROTC.

Also you don't get piss tested working for beltway bandits, at least not for desk type work. Maybe handling vehicles or hazmat, sure, but I've never seen that in my career at companies supporting the DOD.

Then you have a lame job.
The IC and those with access to chemical/biological agents used for defensive testing (Personnel Reliability Program) both test on a frequent but random basis.

Kharn
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:24:14 PM EST
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I could see the DOD looking the other way to give clearance to lefties if it promotes Democrat hegemony & social Justice
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:25:45 PM EST
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Yes but they would have to lie on their SF86.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:25:49 PM EST
[#37]
Twitter isn't the only place laying off.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:27:00 PM EST
[#38]
Not guilty.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:28:23 PM EST
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I work for LM and there are an equal number of lazy twats. Makes me want to scream.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:28:55 PM EST
[#40]
#StayWoke
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:31:38 PM EST
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If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.
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There are definitely -some- talented people at Twitter. And of those some didn't want to work under someone with Elon's work ethic.

The rest will be glad to know that Starbucks is hiring.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:33:23 PM EST
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How anyone expected anything other than this I'll never know. Just because someone on TV tells you what you want to hear so you can stick your head back in the sand and pretend everything is fine or good I'll never understand.

It was obvious that woke companies would love virtue signaling this. It was obvious their talent crushing dissent was wanted. They'll do their jobs because they are truly indoctrinated and love nothing more than being paid for pushing their agendas.

These places will gladly hire shitty workers on top of everything because they are loyal to the cause.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:33:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Apec:
If you think shitbirds/people with casual drug use history aren't capable of getting or maintaining clearances, you haven't served long enough as military or DOD civilian personnel. I know people who smoked weed in school and got jobs at places like Booz Allen Hamilton, or were even on track to commissioning through ROTC.

Also you don't get piss tested working for beltway bandits, at least not for desk type work. Maybe handling vehicles or hazmat, sure, but I've never seen that in my career at companies supporting the DOD.
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I have well over 30 years military/DOE/DoD contractor work under my belt. I have seen many individuals lose their job after popping hot on a piss test. We have regular random piss tests. Just a few months ago security pulled badges and escorted individuals off the installation for hot tests.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:33:44 PM EST
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Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By Kharn:
They would have to piss in a cup.
They'd never want the job.

And Uncle Sam certainly does give a damn about you double-dipping on him vs other employers on the same 40-hour work week.

Kharn

Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it.

If you're claiming you did 40 hours for him, and you really did 10 hours for him and 30 hours making wedding name tags or whatever for Etsy, oh yes.
He doesn't care if you did the 30 hours for Etsy after close of business, or if you only billed for 10 hours. But if you said you did 40 hours, you'd better have done at least 40 hours for him.

Kharn
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:34:05 PM EST
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Contract/clearance requirements didn't go away.
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I work with individuals who recently went through the clearance process. They did not have a piss test and just signed an affidavit of non drug use.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:35:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
Originally Posted By juan223:
Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:
If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay.



it's an online text message board for Christ's sake.  Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime.  I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  


Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already.

Musk has his own ideas for a social media platform and leveraging the Twitter infrastructure for it likely makes a lot of sense. Plenty of opportunity to do something innovative if you join the Elon Twitter team
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:35:47 PM EST
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There are definitely -some- talented people at Twitter. And of those some didn't want to work under someone with Elon's work ethic.

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Through my LinkedIn I saw one of the executives at Starbucks Corp (technology something) with a similar message about their team hiring.

It's kind of interesting watching finance, gov, and consumer facing companies trying to pick the scraps from the tech layoffs.

Frankly, with the way it works with the West Coast States, none of these folks are going to do shit until their unemployment is up. No point in taking a haircut
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:39:17 PM EST
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Never heard of that. I had to piss a few months ago and everyone has to take and pass a pre-employment piss test.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:39:59 PM EST
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If they want to work for DoD they will.
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You think they piss test?






If they want to work for DoD they will.

Just had one hit the door for popping positive.
Link Posted: 11/23/2022 11:41:07 PM EST
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