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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:08:09 PM EDT
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what they want, $3000 for the 2 stamp semi? MP5s are badass, prolly my FAV SMG, but one day someone will explain why a clone is $2000 plus a stamp plus a can. its a stamped sheet, welded, and some steel parts, with some lil rollers in it. i just made a 4.5" 9mm ar upper, got a magwell block, some $20 metalform mags, and have a $450 ghost M on the way. i threw an SD grip and some 416 sights and it runs all day, for about $1300 including 2 stamps and every part. and get this....the bolt locks open when the mag is empty. amazing! anyone care to allude the costs involved with an MP5? https://i.postimg.cc/TwGG4RHZ/received-108789010038810.jpg Maybe the increased cost is for those features? How many roller lock guns are on the wall at your LGS versus AR15 versions? |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:20:30 PM EDT
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what they want, $3000 for the 2 stamp semi? MP5s are badass, prolly my FAV SMG, but one day someone will explain why a clone is $2000 plus a stamp plus a can. its a stamped sheet, welded, and some steel parts, with some lil rollers in it. i just made a 4.5" 9mm ar upper, got a magwell block, some $20 metalform mags, and have a $450 ghost M on the way. i threw an SD grip and some 416 sights and it runs all day, for about $1300 including 2 stamps and every part. and get this....the bolt locks open when the mag is empty. amazing! anyone care to allude the costs involved with an MP5? https://i.postimg.cc/TwGG4RHZ/received-108789010038810.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IB4: "Why is this tacked?" "That's too much." "Meh, my Hi-Point is better." i just made a 4.5" 9mm ar upper, got a magwell block, some $20 metalform mags, and have a $450 ghost M on the way. i threw an SD grip and some 416 sights and it runs all day, for about $1300 including 2 stamps and every part. and get this....the bolt locks open when the mag is empty. amazing! anyone care to allude the costs involved with an MP5? https://i.postimg.cc/TwGG4RHZ/received-108789010038810.jpg 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:40:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2018 3:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MUH AR9 is jut as good as uh MP5! im at about $1750 for my entire setup, with stamps. thats an entry MP5 Pistol. thats where i get off the mp5 train...even tho i still desire one. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 3:44:02 PM EDT
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never said it. im not a fudd type. im mpre of a "what am i getting for this buy-in price". i said whats the additional $1000 cost for? the video is a good response to my question tho. something with substance is always nice. thx. im at about $1750 for my entire setup, with stamps. thats an entry MP5 Pistol. thats where i get off the mp5 train...even tho i still desire one. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:37:57 PM EDT
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Bending it would constitute as making it for you, That's where the problem is Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Oh, I thought I saw you had the jig when you were putting yours together. That's where the problem is |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 8:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can throw one together a lot cheaper. If youre good about using GB you can easily score a German kit for under 1300. If you want to use new RCM parts it still wont cost a ton more. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:11:58 PM EDT
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You can throw one together a lot cheaper. If youre good about using GB you can easily score a German kit for under 1300. If you want to use new RCM parts it still wont cost a ton more. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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never said it. im not a fudd type. im mpre of a "what am i getting for this buy-in price". i said whats the additional $1000 cost for? the video is a good response to my question tho. something with substance is always nice. thx. im at about $1750 for my entire setup, with stamps. thats an entry MP5 Pistol. thats where i get off the mp5 train...even tho i still desire one. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC Got links for this stuff? 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 10:15:23 PM EDT
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what they want, $3000 for the 2 stamp semi? MP5s are badass, prolly my FAV SMG, but one day someone will explain why a clone is $2000 plus a stamp plus a can. its a stamped sheet, welded, and some steel parts, with some lil rollers in it. i just made a 4.5" 9mm ar upper, got a magwell block, some $20 metalform mags, and have a $450 ghost M on the way. i threw an SD grip and some 416 sights and it runs all day, for about $1300 including 2 stamps and every part. and get this....the bolt locks open when the mag is empty. amazing! anyone care to allude the costs involved with an MP5? So if the product is good the price isn't out of line. As far as why they are all expensive. Comes down to a few things. Most of the vendors don't have the scale to make rolling the receivers cheap. It takes skill and you need people who know what they are doing to do it right. In a way the ar parts can be done more on machines and can be pumped out in much higher volume. Scale is a big thing. You have a lot of companies making ar parts, with the roller lock hk style guns no where near as many. Only a few companies in the US make the flats, barrels are mostly made by Todd Bailey, whoever makes them for michaels machines, rcm, and the imported b&t ones. Same goes with most everything else. Lower output means higher prices. Trigger groups cost as much as complete ar lowers. You can also train a drunk monkey to assemble an ar15(look at psa). Takes more work to assemble one of these. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:50:25 AM EDT
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Let me know where you are buying a SD kit on GB for $1300
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You can throw one together a lot cheaper. If youre good about using GB you can easily score a German kit for under 1300. If you want to use new RCM parts it still wont cost a ton more. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC Quote HistoryQuoted:
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never said it. im not a fudd type. im mpre of a "what am i getting for this buy-in price". i said whats the additional $1000 cost for? the video is a good response to my question tho. something with substance is always nice. thx. im at about $1750 for my entire setup, with stamps. thats an entry MP5 Pistol. thats where i get off the mp5 train...even tho i still desire one. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:58:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can throw one together a lot cheaper. If youre good about using GB you can easily score a German kit for under 1300. If you want to use new RCM parts it still wont cost a ton more. Its really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be. The SD contained in this thread is priced high for the record. Especially for someone new on the market. Just my opinion though; no offense to D3LLC |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 8:34:00 AM EDT
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Let me know where you are buying a SD kit on GB for $1300 Real German HK SD kits are $$$$$$$ |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 10:39:19 AM EDT
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I was referring more to a regular MP5 kit as the poster who I was replying to was referring to a MP5. They were going for 1 to 1.3k or so earlier this year on gb. Real German HK SD kits are $$$$$$$ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let me know where you are buying a SD kit on GB for $1300 Real German HK SD kits are $$$$$$$ 
I have seen the TPM that Mike is referring to and there truly is no comparison. The fit, finish, and function of the D3 design is superior in every way. You will NOT be disappointed. Now I just need the ATF to hurry up!! |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 11:25:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got an A3 parts kit for about $1300 last year and I thought that would be sufficient to scratch my MP5 itch. Then I shot Mike's full auto SD in the video above.... now I'm waiting on my stamps for the SD.
I have seen the TPM that Mike is referring to and there truly is no comparison. The fit, finish, and function of the D3 design is superior in every way. You will NOT be disappointed. Now I just need the ATF to hurry up!! Im also waiting on a SD can 
Should be literally any day now. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:37:44 PM EDT
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Oh! My bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Oh, I thought I saw you had the jig when you were putting yours together. That's where the problem is
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Posted: 10/24/2018 10:07:24 PM EDT
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The ar barrels going to be available by themselves? I already have a german sd can I could use.
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Posted: 10/25/2018 5:04:17 AM EDT
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The ar barrels going to be available by themselves? I already have a german sd can I could use. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 12:42:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs he using his left eye?
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Posted: 10/25/2018 12:48:55 PM EDT
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Are you barrel gas vent holes drilled spirally to follow the rifling grooves like the original HK factory SDs?
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Posted: 10/25/2018 1:54:22 PM EDT
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Is he using his left eye? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Now he shoots left handed. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 2:11:17 PM EDT
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Are you barrel gas vent holes drilled spirally to follow the rifling grooves like the original HK factory SDs? Specially with a pistol caliber |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 2:19:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, he is. That was right around the time that his eyesight changed & he got glasses. Apparently his left eye became dominant about that same time & I hadn’t realized it yet. Now he shoots left handed. He is a lucky boy having you to guide him. |
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Posted: 10/25/2018 8:16:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you an SOT? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:23:18 AM EDT
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PLEASE tell me that Todd Bailey is not a part of this as AZ is his AO...  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 3:59:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2018 4:35:30 PM EDT
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Why do you ask? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/4/2018 4:43:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryHe getting brass to his forehead and that is not good. Kuddos for letting him shoot but he needs to start shooting from the left side. ETA: Saw you addressed this already. |
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Posted: 11/4/2018 5:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The kid is left eye dominant. He getting brass to his forehead and that is not good. Kuddos for letting him shoot but he needs to start shooting from the left side. ETA: Saw you addressed this already. |
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Posted: 11/5/2018 9:16:52 PM EDT
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I don't know if the toad is involved or its just his brother but the clone attempts operation now resides in Arkansas |
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Posted: 12/4/2018 8:55:47 PM EDT
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Very nice
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