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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:59:05 AM EDT
D.C. Mayor Bowser: Dem-Led House, Senate Will Pass D.C. Statehood, Bring It to Biden’s Desk

Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told  “Just the News” on Friday that the Democratic-led Senate and House will vote in favor of statehood for the District of Columbia and send the bill to President Joe Biden’s desk, who has expressed support for D.C. statehood in the past.
***we had our first successful vote on statehood in the House of Representatives last year. She reintroduced the bill. She has a record number of sponsors.”

She continued, “It is going to be reintroduced in the Senate in a couple of weeks
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We literally have no one to speak for us in the Senate. We have to have full representation.”
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This will likely be Harris's first tie breaking vote and I have no doubt Biden will sign it, and signify the start of permanent Senate control.

A side question, I wonder if and when it is passed if it makes the mayor the acting governor and she gets to instantly appoint two new senators?

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you need 50 states to agree. lol
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Unless they use Dominion.
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Yeah, I can think of a handful of states that will say "lol....no".
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Hahahaha. Look everyone this guy thinks we still follow a constitution!
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No you don't.
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No you don't.

I thought it was 2/3

and we knew it was Dc first, then PR
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:09:44 AM EDT
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Won’t she be out of a job?
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Puerto Rico is also in there.  And the requirement that all states conduct California/Chicago style elections.
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D.C. Mayor Bowser: Dem-Led House, Senate Will Pass D.C. Statehood, Bring It to Biden’s Desk

Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser told  “Just the News” on Friday that the Democratic-led Senate and House will vote in favor of statehood for the District of Columbia and send the bill to President Joe Biden’s desk, who has expressed support for D.C. statehood in the past.
***we had our first successful vote on statehood in the House of Representatives last year. She reintroduced the bill. She has a record number of sponsors.”

She continued, “It is going to be reintroduced in the Senate in a couple of weeks
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This will likely be Harris's first tie breaking vote and I have no doubt Biden will sign it, and signify the start of permanent Senate control.

A side question, I wonder if and when it is passed if it makes the mayor the acting governor and she gets to instantly appoint two new senators?

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Have you ever taken a civics class?
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You all do realize all they need is a majority vote in the House and Senate (They will nuke the filibuster) and FJB signs it. Done, welcome to the 51st state and we are forever fucked.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:15:51 AM EDT
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needs to be ratified by 2/3 of the several states.

EDIT: 3/4ths
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I thought it was 2/3

and we knew it was Dc first, then PR
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No you don't.

I thought it was 2/3

and we knew it was Dc first, then PR


How do new states become part of the U.S.?

The process of creating a new state is written in Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution which reads,

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State."
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Congress has the power to admit a new state, but the president has to sign the territory into statehood to make it official.
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That was solidified on November 3rd. The war's been over for months now.
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Hahahaha. Look everyone this guy thinks we still follow a constitution!
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:20:47 AM EDT
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The dems can vote and sign all they want but it will take a constitutional amendment ratified by either the legislatures of three-fourths of the states or state ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states.

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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:24:02 AM EDT
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They have to change the consitution to do this.  Don't think they have the votes.


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Count the votes for this at 3AM and cover up any windows with pizza boxes because of COVID
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:26:04 AM EDT
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They won't just pack the Supreme Court, they will pack the Senate, too.
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Hahahahahaha another one who thinks we follow a constutition.

You best start believing in a post constitutional Amerika Ms Turner, you're in one.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:28:52 AM EDT
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.

Expect that article to be memory-holed Monday morning.

Kharn
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:29:51 AM EDT
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.'s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
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Even forgetting for a moment the original part of the Constitution, the experts have pointed out that they "screwed the pooch" with the 23rd Amendment. Creating a state out of DC conflicts with the 23rd Amendment. That amendment must be repealed before they could go forward.

Puerto Rico on the other hand is not subject to the same limitation. Simple vote of Congress gets them added. The states have no say at all other than to start sending billions in aid to PR.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:32:11 AM EDT
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No you don't.
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No you don't.
Is adding states to the union something that requires a constitutional convention?

I know circa 1936 era Alaska and Hawaii weren't states yet.

NINJA EDIT: Googled it. Hawaii was added in 1959 via the Hawaii Admission Act, which was a bill passed by congress.

Alaska was added in 1958. Alaska Statehood Act.

So apparently you don't actually need a convention to do it. I'm not sure if it's just like "any other bill" or if there's special requirements.

The US territorial holdings are a little wack. We have a trade embargo with Cuba yet Gitmo is in Cuba, etc.
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I don't know about SCOTUS but they will get the Senate by default between patriots striving to kill-off the gop by not voting for them and the dems placing Dominion voting machines in every population center......That "reset" you have been masturbating furiously for?.....It's here.

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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.


Their work around is to simply shrink the size of the district not redefine it.

Bowser said, “The nation’s capital, the federal enclave, continues to exist as the nation’s capital and everything outside of those new boundaries becomes the 51st state.


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Puerto Rico is Easy.  Majority vote will allow it in.  DC on the other hand requires

However if they can include Alexandra, Arlington and the rest of the "Original" district into DC from VA then this may be a good deal as VA would flip red again.  Or even better yet make everything inside the Beltway the State of DC.
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
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The only thing they could do here is to shrink the Federal District down to the downtown/government area.  Even then the only thing that could happen is the rest of DC becomes part of Maryland.
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Yeah !  Yeah !  And lets split California into three states; giving each one 2 Senators. And lets get Puerto Rico in there too -- thats 2 MORE Senators.  And lets get Northern VA its own senator too -- because of "reasons".

LOL

At this point, we're in solid Clown World Territory.

So once one side goes lawless.  So will the other. Then the fun really starts.
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The current Resident Commissioner (non voting member of the House) is a Republican. PR will be a swing state in my opinion. Jenniffer González-Colón was elected to that office by thr majority of the island to represent PR in Congress. The previous Governor was Republican too.
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I work with a guy from PR who is a US citizen.

He says that Cubans, and PR's are majority R, and he is very conservative.
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The only thing they could do here is to shrink the Federal District down to the downtown/government area.  Even then the only thing that could happen is the rest of DC becomes part of Maryland.
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There was a proposal to return the non Federal areas back to Maryland, as other parts had been returned to Virginia long ago. However they reject that because they do not get their precious two Senators. It is not about representation but about power in the Senate. If it truly was all about representation, they would join in a heartbeat. But it isn't.
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Hahahaha. Look everyone this guy thinks we still follow a constitution!
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Hahahaha. Look everyone this guy thinks we still follow a constitution!
What is this constitution you speak of? I think Biteme used it for toilet paper day one.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 9:46:26 AM EDT
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So, where will the Capitol get moved to? It's not supposed to be in a state, that's why the district was created in the first place.

Perhaps Washington County Kansas would be a good central location. But with all of the government offices and employees gone, I wonder if Washington DC would be able to support itself as a state? Probably not. So it makes more sense to just move the Capitol completely since we will have to do that anyway and then give DC back to Maryland. That way the people of DC get their statehood, as part of Maryland and everyone is happy.

And what with all the modern technology there is little need to have the Capitol in one place anyway. All the covid work from home stuff has taught us that. Maybe Congress should meet in a different state every year and all of the various agencies should be scattered around the country so everyone can benefit from their Federal wisdom. It would be good for those people to actually spend time with their beloved constituents instead of in one city surrounded by more government types.
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.
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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.

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I work with a guy from PR who is a US citizen.

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A lot of this corruption by the Democrats is starting to backfire among the Hispanic population, especially legal immigrants and those who have been here for generations, and refugees from Communist states in Latin America.
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Puerto Rico is Easy.  Majority vote will allow it in.  DC on the other hand requires

However if they can include Alexandra, Arlington and the rest of the "Original" district into DC from VA then this may be a good deal as VA would flip red again.  Or even better yet make everything inside the Beltway the State of DC.
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No, NOtVA would have to be cut off roughly at the RT. 15 line between Haymarket and Leesburg with the Potomac as a boundary to take in all the NOtVA counties that have went dem.

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Will DC be represented by the turd emoji on the flag?
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Pure evil... steal flaky election then ram permanent deepstate control agenda down everyones throat starting day one.

I should hope all the dumbass voters desiring to "get back to normal" at any price by discarding President Trump are taking notice and are equally horrified..
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I believe that right there is unconstitutional, states are in charge of their state through their legislature (at least that is what the Constitution says if we are still using it), it is a not federal issue what a state does.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:03:10 AM EDT
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Just wait till they gerrymander California into 5 blue states.
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A lot of this corruption by the Democrats is starting to backfire among the Hispanic population, especially legal immigrants and those who have been here for generations, and refugees from Communist states in Latin America.
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Hammer it into their heads that their jobs are easily taken over by illegals for cheaper pay. Especially in the trades. Why hire Mexican when I can find someone else for less.
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Their work around is to simply shrink the size of the district not redefine it.



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Except that doesn't apply to Wash DC. It is a federal district.

Congress cannot change the status of the capital district simply by redefining it. Washington, D.C.’s one-of-a-kind standing in the federal system is spelled out in the Constitution; the only way to modify that standing is to modify the Constitution.

The Constitution says no to DC statehood

Even MSN sees it.

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It even took a Constitutional amendment to get the residents of DC the right to vote in Presidential elections.


Their work around is to simply shrink the size of the district not redefine it.

Bowser said, “The nation’s capital, the federal enclave, continues to exist as the nation’s capital and everything outside of those new boundaries becomes the 51st state.


and they should just give that land back to MD via retrocession.  no new state required.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 10:08:39 AM EDT
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calling BS on Puerto Rico being red.  PR is so corrupt that ALL birth certificates issued prior to July 2010 had to be invalidated due to rampant fraud.  Imagine that, the entire territory of Puerto Ricans had to have new BC's issued. Ive worked cases against Puerto Rican organized crime groups in the US and i can tell you its no better than Mexico.  Sure there are a lot of good people there but there are still some impediments to just anyone hopping on a plane and coming over. Make it a state and were screwed.

ETA: and F DanCrenshaw throwing in with eGOP, this is on you.
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I think any land cut out of D.C. would automatically revert to Maryland  (or Virginia if there is any Virginia ceded land left in D.C., I don't think there is, but, I can't remember)
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No they won’t.
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