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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you one of those people that want to destroy the USA because slavery happened? Not disagreeing with your conclusion that Russia isn't good for Ukraine. But your argument is trash. Russia isn't even the same government that did the Holodomor. That's like killing Germans today because they did something bad when ruled by Nazis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m sure I’ll be accused of being a Russian bot, but I truly wonder if the average Ukrainian would have noticed a difference in any way if there were an overnight change of power Do yourself a favor and research how Russia has treated Ukraine in the past before making ignorant comments. Start with researching Holodomor. Are you one of those people that want to destroy the USA because slavery happened? Not disagreeing with your conclusion that Russia isn't good for Ukraine. But your argument is trash. Russia isn't even the same government that did the Holodomor. That's like killing Germans today because they did something bad when ruled by Nazis. Russian state media has openly stated that they believe the idea of being Ukrainian should be eradicated. Russia has been seeking that goal before, during, and after the Soviet Union. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: President of UKR has $850 million in bank accounts that nobody can explain how he amassed. Yup, no proof of it…on the flip side there is no proof its not. I haven’t seen any proof that you aren’t a Biden loving groomer. You don’t just get to make claims and then demand proof they are untrue. That’s not how it works. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:41:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is only about 130 million taxpayers. If we just use the latest payment of 40 billion thats $307 per tax payer. But we’re in a lot deeper since 2014 when Ukrainians started killing Ukrainians, so its probably closer to a $1000 per tax taxpayer. Your funny, Ukrainians killing Ukrainians in 2014? More like Ukrainians fighting Russian GRU, Mercs, Kadyrovites, ex Russian military, and Russian Cossacks, with a spatter of ethnically Russian Ukrainian citizens leading the front page for the SVR press corp. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got anything to back up the claim he has that much? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: President of UKR has $850 million in bank accounts that nobody can explain how he amassed. You got anything to back up the claim he has that much? Total BS claim. Multiple investigations have put his total portfolio before the war at about 22 million. Most of that nontangible assets in the form of ownership of a comedy film company. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:44:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: I’m all for seeing dead Russians I just don't understand this. What the hell do I have against a Russian peer of mine? What kind of fucked up thinking is this? A Jihadist "peer" of mine, sure, but Ivan just drinking tha vodka and trying to get by is supposed to be my enemy? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:45:41 PM EDT
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Anyone actually red the bill, most will get spent on US equipment, pay troops, and or go to US or EU/NATO aide organizations for refugee stuff.
It’s not like we are sending them a 40 billion dollar credit card. Of that 40 billion 30 will end up back in USA at least. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:48:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the posters that say it's worth every penny. Edit: got beat. I’ve already spent more than a grand sending non-lethal aid over - medical supplies mostly, cigars and creature comforts. I’ll gladly spend more and don’t ind $115 of my tax dollars to allow the Ukrainians to grease orcs. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the posters that say it's worth every penny. Edit: got beat. 
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Expanding Russian Bloc? Lol, they are staggeringly incompetent. They can’t drive their trucks because of tire rot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Given the impact on depleting the military of an enemy, money well spent. Erasing Russia's military for pennies on the dollar. Probably the best use of federal funds since the Alaskan Purchase. My only complaint is that it is additional spending. Find some pork to cut to offset. There's probably a few billion allocated somewhere for gender studies of reindeer or some other bullshit we can cut. This. It's sad to see how dense some people are regarding the geopolitical and economic implications of an expanding Russian Bloc. Expanding Russian Bloc? Lol, they are staggeringly incompetent. They can’t drive their trucks because of tire rot. Yep. And those goofy Chinese will never be able to project force beyond the South China Sea. See how that works? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:51:46 PM EDT
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Russia isn’t a threat to us on the battlefield but in the world of cyber. They steel and cause billions of dollars of damage in the US every year.
One of two belligerent countries who could potentially take down are power grid overnight. That’s a threat they have made. They also penny threaten nuking us every 4 weeks for years with by hypersonic middle or drone torpedo. I guess we should play patty cakes with him. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:52:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is only about 130 million taxpayers. If we just use the latest payment of 40 billion thats $307 per tax payer. But we’re in a lot deeper since 2014 when Ukrainians started killing Ukrainians, so its probably closer to a $1000 per tax taxpayer. It’s not just a dollar figure What “could” that have done here, directly for our entire country. No rounding error bullshit, we send enough away that’s wasted we could solve the entirety of our issues. But solving issues here would be bad, because when life is good politicians jig is up |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone actually red the bill, most will get spent on US equipment, pay troops, and or go to US or EU/NATO aide organizations for refugee stuff. It’s not like we are sending them a 40 billion dollar credit card. Of that 40 billion 30 will end up back in USA at least. Correct. Most of ARF is functionally retarded though, because reading is for f***ots. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure I’ll be accused of being a Russian bot, but I truly wonder if the average Ukrainian would have noticed a difference in any way if there were an overnight change of power Ibmg |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:56:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What difference does it make. You are being stolen from every single day regardless. You are a fucking tax slave, get over it or do something. Keep voting that'll fix it. "Everything is fine", arfmilz I’m curious if you have ever posted without stating that |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 1:58:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Whatever it is I don't mind paying it. It's a deal compared to what it would cost us to fight a reconstituted Soviet Union that just had an easy win in Ukraine and would start telling countries like Poland that they had better drop out of NATO or get invaded like Ukraine.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't understand this. What the hell do I have against a Russian peer of mine? What kind of fucked up thinking is this? A Jihadist "peer" of mine, sure, but Ivan just drinking tha vodka and trying to get by is supposed to be my enemy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m all for seeing dead Russians I just don't understand this. What the hell do I have against a Russian peer of mine? What kind of fucked up thinking is this? A Jihadist "peer" of mine, sure, but Ivan just drinking tha vodka and trying to get by is supposed to be my enemy? I’m completely with you. It’s sociopathic, yet they claim they have the moral high ground. Some real winners on here. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Most of ARF is functionally retarded though, because reading is for f***ots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone actually red the bill, most will get spent on US equipment, pay troops, and or go to US or EU/NATO aide organizations for refugee stuff. It’s not like we are sending them a 40 billion dollar credit card. Of that 40 billion 30 will end up back in USA at least. Correct. Most of ARF is functionally retarded though, because reading is for f***ots. It seems that way I like the good old days of arf com, back when 60% were patriotic Americans that liked guns. Now it’s trolls, bots, fringe characters, and foreign actors. Sadly so many of the opposition have had their ideas shaped by Russian and Chinese information operations. They don’t know it but Russias goal has always been to tug America into a mass of people who disagree with each other, and believe nothing they hear, see, or watch. Sadly it’s hard to see the truth and lies. It does require time and effort. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m completely with you. It’s sociopathic, yet they claim they have the moral high ground. Some real winners on here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m all for seeing dead Russians I just don't understand this. What the hell do I have against a Russian peer of mine? What kind of fucked up thinking is this? A Jihadist "peer" of mine, sure, but Ivan just drinking tha vodka and trying to get by is supposed to be my enemy? I’m completely with you. It’s sociopathic, yet they claim they have the moral high ground. Some real winners on here. Who do you pull for when you hear about someone putting down a home invader intent on raping and killing them? The innocent person or the home invader? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:18:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just don't understand this. What the hell do I have against a Russian peer of mine? What kind of fucked up thinking is this? A Jihadist "peer" of mine, sure, but Ivan just drinking tha vodka and trying to get by is supposed to be my enemy? The Russians are not our "peers" and view us as standing in the way of their return to "greatness" |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:19:54 PM EDT
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Let's use round numbers:
~350 million US citizens ~150 million taxpaying US citizens $ 40 billion Ukrainian aid bill $7,200 billion total federal spending (in 2021 per FRED $ 115 Ukrainian aid per US citizen $20,700 total federal spending per US citizen $ 270 Ukrainian aid per taxpaying US citizen $48,000 total federal spending per taxpaying US citizen The amount of Ukrainian aid is a pimple on a deathbed patient. The amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth over that pimple is, at best, far out of proportion to its' effect and has to be the result of propaganda efforts to divert attention from far bigger spending issues. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:20:55 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any amount is unacceptable Eta if people wanna piss away their own private funds have at it. Don't waste my tax money on irrelevant to american shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  the impact on inflation from russia sanctions is near 0 when compared to the impact of the fed printing and spending money. lets have some perspective, 40 billion is .3% of 12 trillion, a very low end estimate of the spending since trump took office.Even the printing is small compared to how much was created with artificially low interest rates. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:24:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who do you pull for when you hear about someone putting down a home invader intent on raping and killing them? The innocent person or the home invader? The innocent. Next question |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:27:10 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right here. What is the cost of not sending money there and letting Russia expand? You think Russia is going to stop? You still think Ukraine is winning? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:27:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your funny, Ukrainians killing Ukrainians in 2014? More like Ukrainians fighting Russian GRU, Mercs, Kadyrovites, ex Russian military, and Russian Cossacks, with a spatter of ethnically Russian Ukrainian citizens leading the front page for the SVR press corp. Yep. The "russian separatists" in eastern Ukraine were mostly bussed in since the 90s. Sent around the said they were not being treated fairly, right after russias puppet was ousted. This idea of bussing around people to offset the native population who will later claim unfair treatment should be sounding pretty damn familiar. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The innocent. Next question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who do you pull for when you hear about someone putting down a home invader intent on raping and killing them? The innocent person or the home invader? The innocent. Next question Well, that's an interesting reply
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:30:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The innocent. Next question Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who do you pull for when you hear about someone putting down a home invader intent on raping and killing them? The innocent person or the home invader? The innocent. Next question Which country is the invader? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:30:15 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. And those goofy Chinese will never be able to project force beyond the South China Sea. See how that works? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Given the impact on depleting the military of an enemy, money well spent. Erasing Russia's military for pennies on the dollar. Probably the best use of federal funds since the Alaskan Purchase. My only complaint is that it is additional spending. Find some pork to cut to offset. There's probably a few billion allocated somewhere for gender studies of reindeer or some other bullshit we can cut. This. It's sad to see how dense some people are regarding the geopolitical and economic implications of an expanding Russian Bloc. Expanding Russian Bloc? Lol, they are staggeringly incompetent. They can’t drive their trucks because of tire rot. Yep. And those goofy Chinese will never be able to project force beyond the South China Sea. See how that works? Right now our policies are helping the Chinese. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:32:26 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone actually red the bill, most will get spent on US equipment, pay troops, and or go to US or EU/NATO aide organizations for refugee stuff. It’s not like we are sending them a 40 billion dollar credit card. Of that 40 billion 30 will end up back in USA at least. That’s the problem, 30 billion will be laundered back to the politicians that approved this debacle! And most that goes to “NATO” will also pad rich folks pockets, spit! Ukraine is a known money laundering country, ask the Biden’s, Ukraine is Europes problem, not ours! I fired off sever nasty emails and called the offices of my reps. I’m still mad about the waste of my tax dollars! Russia can have Ukraine, like Crimea didn’t care then either. How much help are we getting from Europe to protect out southern border? |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:32:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. The "russian separatists" in eastern Ukraine were mostly bussed in since the 90s. Sent around the said they were not being treated fairly, right after russias puppet was ousted. This idea of bussing around people to offset the native population who will later claim unfair treatment should be sounding pretty damn familiar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your funny, Ukrainians killing Ukrainians in 2014? More like Ukrainians fighting Russian GRU, Mercs, Kadyrovites, ex Russian military, and Russian Cossacks, with a spatter of ethnically Russian Ukrainian citizens leading the front page for the SVR press corp. Yep. The "russian separatists" in eastern Ukraine were mostly bussed in since the 90s. Sent around the said they were not being treated fairly, right after russias puppet was ousted. This idea of bussing around people to offset the native population who will later claim unfair treatment should be sounding pretty damn familiar. Perhaps spending on our border security is actually a good idea. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:40:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perhaps spending on our border security is actually a good idea. Anyone who thinks not funding border security was ever about the money is on a different planet. It was never about the money.... it very rarely is. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:43:25 PM EDT
[#31]
I don't fucking care as long as they're finally killing shitbag Russians with my money.
I've lived through the cold war and payed a shitload of taxes over my life to hold off the "Russian hordes". Now I'm finally getting something for my money. The Russians had their chance to join the civilized world with the fall of the Soviet Union, but the Communists just changed hats and became Mafia without the political guise. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. They can eat Javelins and I'll happily pay for them. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:45:05 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any amount is unacceptable Eta if people wanna piss away their own private funds have at it. Don't waste my tax money on irrelevant to american shit. This |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 2:55:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't fucking care as long as they're finally killing shitbag Russians with my money. I've lived through the cold war and payed a shitload of taxes over my life to hold off the "Russian hordes". Now I'm finally getting something for my money. The Russians had their chance to join the civilized world with the fall of the Soviet Union, but the Communists just changed hats and became Mafia without the political guise. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. They can eat Javelins and I'll happily pay for them. Well said!! 
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:01:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who thinks not funding border security was ever about the money is on a different planet. It was never about the money.... it very rarely is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Perhaps spending on our border security is actually a good idea. Anyone who thinks not funding border security was ever about the money is on a different planet. It was never about the money.... it very rarely is. I just find it funny that the people, both in government, media and various Soros funded organizations are all about Ukraine and against the US protecting its borders. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:14:44 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $4,000,000,000 is going into the pockets of the BigGuy on Down. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/WVT3SGGJDUI6ZDH7GOYFT5GBW4.jpg&w=1024 About the only time I would approve of Russia using a tactical nuke on Kyiv. That was a missed opportunity there. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:22:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much will it cost to replace the equipment we are sending over? Yah, 20 year old drmo hmmwvs are priceless. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:26:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Mixed feelings.
If it payed for a Stinger that destroyed a Russian Tank, money well spent imo.  But thats just me personally. It shouldnt be forcefully taken from people's wallets.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:32:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much will it cost to replace the equipment we are sending over? More or less the same as scrapping the ordnance because it's been in store so long it's passed its shelve life or become obsolete. Stuff become milsurp for a reason. You have missile designed to destroy tanks and instead of sitting on a shelf it's being used for its intended purpose except it's the Ukrainian forces doing the armoured vehicle reduction. Bonus is the real time testing against the best Russian armour. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:50:48 PM EDT
[#39]
The US spent billions during the cold war against Russia. Russia backed North Vietnam and we spent billions in 1960s dollars on that war. Think of the cost of all of our nukes and occupation in Germany over the years. The bear needs to be euthanized and it's money well spent.
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:52:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yah, 20 year old drmo hmmwvs are priceless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How much will it cost to replace the equipment we are sending over? Yah, 20 year old drmo hmmwvs are priceless. So it is free?  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 3:58:52 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mixed feelings. If it payed for a Stinger that destroyed a Russian Tank, money well spent imo. But thats just me personally. It shouldnt be forcefully taken from people's wallets.Although the Ukrainian STUNGA ATGM said hold by beer and took out at least two flying helos. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:00:03 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that's an interesting reply
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:01:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which country is the invader? Russia Keep going |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:03:45 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The US spent billions during the cold war against Russia. Russia backed North Vietnam and we spent billions in 1960s dollars on that war. Think of the cost of all of our nukes and occupation in Germany over the years. The bear needs to be euthanized and it's money well spent. Username checks out |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:06:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $4,000,000,000 is going into the pockets of the BigGuy on Down. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/WVT3SGGJDUI6ZDH7GOYFT5GBW4.jpg&w=1024 If there ever was a time for an Iskander missile strike |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:09:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A formal assessment dated 5 years ago. Ok, I'll take back the Russian plant part and say instead they must have gotten their act together since Zelensky took power. Dialing back to a US political level of corruption had to be a huge improvement over their prior Russian style corruption The observed facts still do not remotely align with what is described in that old assessment. It also fits, the Neptune was barely in development when that report was published. The Bayraktar partnership was entirely after that report Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Check the citation  A formal assessment dated 5 years ago. Ok, I'll take back the Russian plant part and say instead they must have gotten their act together since Zelensky took power. Dialing back to a US political level of corruption had to be a huge improvement over their prior Russian style corruption The observed facts still do not remotely align with what is described in that old assessment. It also fits, the Neptune was barely in development when that report was published. The Bayraktar partnership was entirely after that report It's fucking hilarious that any assessment that shows Ukranians to be the turd world corrupt losers they are is met with "RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION" reflexively and with no critical forethought. 
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:09:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And the US is sending way more than everyone else, ridiculously more. Major economies, such as Germany are doing almost nothing, although they would be ones actually threatened by Russian expansionism; if Russia actually had the capability, which they don’t. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why is it always the USA paying for all these wars all over the world? How many other countries are sending money or military equipment to the Ukraine? Were 30 Trillion dollars in dept and the Republicans voted for it. There's a whole list of countries sending money, equipment,aid to Ukraine. It's pretty easy to research if you desire. And the US is sending way more than everyone else, ridiculously more. Major economies, such as Germany are doing almost nothing, although they would be ones actually threatened by Russian expansionism; if Russia actually had the capability, which they don’t. I think so far the US has spent around twice as much on Ukraine as all of Europe combined. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:15:12 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think buying $67,000 worth of drugs, Tabaco and alcohol for homeless people is better than destroying Russian assets with other peoples troops, i feel sorry for you. Homeless people, to a large extent, can simply not be helped, because they don't want it. Want proof? See how much we spend every year supporting people who are single parent households with 5+ children from multiple fathers and ask, if we can spend that kind of money on them, and their situation never gets better (but sometimes more kids and fathers) then why would anyone expect homeless to improve based on a one time payment of that kind of money? It's throwing good money after bad. At least we are getting some sweet videos out of Ukraine... you get the bum fights on the CA boardwalk for "free" already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The amount that was just given ($40mil) could provide $67,000 for every homeless person in the United States. Now I am not a homeless advocate, but that could fund a lot of mental health, medical, education, job training, and housing. Yeah, I know that most of them don't want help, but it puts things in perspective. President of UKR has $850 million in bank accounts that nobody can explain how he amassed. If you think buying $67,000 worth of drugs, Tabaco and alcohol for homeless people is better than destroying Russian assets with other peoples troops, i feel sorry for you. Homeless people, to a large extent, can simply not be helped, because they don't want it. Want proof? See how much we spend every year supporting people who are single parent households with 5+ children from multiple fathers and ask, if we can spend that kind of money on them, and their situation never gets better (but sometimes more kids and fathers) then why would anyone expect homeless to improve based on a one time payment of that kind of money? It's throwing good money after bad. At least we are getting some sweet videos out of Ukraine... you get the bum fights on the CA boardwalk for "free" already. Blockbuster would be rich again if they sold ukraine vids for what we paid for them huh? Your point is invalid, the money doesn’t have to go somewhere… it isn’t an either/ or thing. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:20:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just find it funny that the people, both in government, media and various Soros funded organizations are all about Ukraine and against the US protecting its borders. Do you think showing more weakness on the world stage and ignoring Russias invasion is going to some how stop illegal immigration? The parallels are a warning sign, nothing more. |
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Posted: 5/22/2022 4:40:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you think showing more weakness on the world stage and ignoring Russias invasion is going to some how stop illegal immigration? The parallels are a warning sign, nothing more. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just find it funny that the people, both in government, media and various Soros funded organizations are all about Ukraine and against the US protecting its borders. Do you think showing more weakness on the world stage and ignoring Russias invasion is going to some how stop illegal immigration? The parallels are a warning sign, nothing more. So you feel that if the US doesn't fund most of Ukraine's war it makes us look weak to Europe, who live next to Ukraine and comparably are funding very little of their neighbors war? |
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