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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:10:39 PM EDT
I thought South Carolina was a free state.
 The City of Columbia passed an ordinance Tuesday that bans the use of bump stocks and trigger cranks. Columbia's ordinance makes it illegal to attach bump stocks or trigger cranks to any guns within the city, except by military or law enforcement personnel. It would still be legal to own those devices, so long as they are stored in separate containers from firearms. http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article190664809.html |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:11:24 PM EDT
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One of the last places I would have expected.
Isn't FN in Columbia? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:11:53 PM EDT
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I feel safer.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:12:10 PM EDT
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Does SC not have preemption laws?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:13:24 PM EDT
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Does SC not have preemption laws? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Does SC not have preemption laws? http://lawcenter.giffords.org/local-authority-to-regulate-firearms-in-south-carolina/ No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in the State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance that regulates or attempts to regulate…the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things.1 |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:13:49 PM EDT
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Does SC not have preemption laws? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:14:34 PM EDT
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It would apply only in the city limits of Columbia. I'm going out on a limb here but it's probably illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits.
Oh, and the mayor said no one should be able to use a $30 bump fire stock in Columbia. Someone having a sale? 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:15:06 PM EDT
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Only law enforcement and the military need bump stocks and crank triggers to spray into a country music concert!
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:16:14 PM EDT
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Yes.. That is an illegal regulation in that city.. Hope they get sued http://lawcenter.giffords.org/local-authority-to-regulate-firearms-in-south-carolina/ |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:17:21 PM EDT
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I love preemption. Those liberals are about to learn a lesson on hope government works.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:20:28 PM EDT
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Our SC HTF lawyer is filing suit against the city.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:23:28 PM EDT
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This is a show stunt. It won't last. Hopefully, it costs them some money too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does SC not have preemption laws? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:24:45 PM EDT
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Our SC HTF lawyer is filing suit against the city. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:24:53 PM EDT
[#13]
the south looses again
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:26:54 PM EDT
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Read more, post less. This is a few local liberals that passed some feel good legislation that is going to get smacked down and get them slapped around a bit too.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:26:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:30:57 PM EDT
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Are you a plaintiff? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:31:38 PM EDT
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A year or two ago Columbia passed an a temporary ordinance limiting CCW within a certain area of the city.
Can't do that. Can't do this either. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:34:54 PM EDT
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No, but I'll be glad to sign up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you a plaintiff? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554 |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:36:42 PM EDT
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the south looses again |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:38:00 PM EDT
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$10 says PSA is already on it.
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Looks like he is set to go. Said he'll file today or tomorrow. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554 |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:38:18 PM EDT
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South Carolina preemption law.:
"No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in the State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance that regulates or attempts to regulate…the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things." |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:39:22 PM EDT
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Looks like he is set to go. Said he'll file today or tomorrow. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:39:28 PM EDT
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Individual cities can ban shit like that? How on earth is the average person supposed to know every single federal, state, county, and local law?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:39:30 PM EDT
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Looks like he is set to go. Said he'll file today or tomorrow. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you a plaintiff? https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:50:32 PM EDT
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If only there was something that the inhabitants of these cities and states could do on a regular basis to take these mayors and politicians could out of office.
Unfortunately, a majority of the inhabitants of these areas are..... 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:51:31 PM EDT
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You'd think the city attorney would know about preemption.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:52:54 PM EDT
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$10 says PSA is already on it.
edit: Nice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
$10 says PSA is already on it.
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Looks like he is set to go. Said he'll file today or tomorrow. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/-Columbia-Mayor-proposes-ordinance-to-ban-bump-stocks/65-618996/#i6838554 I'll take a money order. 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:55:34 PM EDT
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You'd think the city attorney would know about preemption. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:58:00 PM EDT
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Democrats?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:58:23 PM EDT
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Where can you shoot in Columbia city limits anyway? Talk about useless laws...
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Posted: 12/20/2017 1:59:05 PM EDT
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@schneecat, our resident pro 2a attorney is all over it. He has sued the city before and won.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:23:47 PM EDT
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This is a show stunt. It won't last. Hopefully, it costs them some money too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does SC not have preemption laws?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:28:16 PM EDT
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Individual cities can ban shit like that? How on earth is the average person supposed to know every single federal, state, county, and local law? He may not have read the law but that's what he said. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:30:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean the taxpayers?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:33:18 PM EDT
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It would apply only in the city limits of Columbia. I'm going out on a limb here but it's probably illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits. Oh, and the mayor said no one should be able to use a $30 bump fire stock in Columbia. Someone having a sale? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:35:46 PM EDT
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You mean the taxpayers? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does SC not have preemption laws?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:48:43 PM EDT
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City of Columbia is a cesspool of liberal democrats that have run this place into the ground. Think Detroit many years ago. That's where they are now. Columbia PD spends more time patrolling the land grabs while down town burns with gangs and traffic that resembles the bumper cars at the State Fair. Of course T-bone Mayor himself set this precedent the night of his election when he
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Posted: 12/20/2017 2:59:49 PM EDT
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As per usual, "laws for thee, not for me" government carve-outs.
Any small arm that is entrusted to the 19 year old fucktards I just shared a range with this morning can be entrusted to citizens. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:00:18 PM EDT
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One of the last places I would have expected. Isn't FN in Columbia? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:02:12 PM EDT
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Lol what a bunch of tards, they don't even know how to government.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:02:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean the taxpayers? |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:03:05 PM EDT
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They know. He is actually violating a court order from last year that permanently enjoined the city from enacting any gun ordinances after violating the law the last time. They are saying it is not a firearm part according to the federal government, to get around preemption, despite the ATF 2010 letter saying it is a firearm part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You'd think the city attorney would know about preemption.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:03:07 PM EDT
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"except law enforcement and military"
LOL |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:03:45 PM EDT
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According to the mayor on a news show this am the law doesn't forbid the sale, purchase or possession of the bump fire stock. Just the use of one in Columbia. He may not have read the law but that's what he said. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Individual cities can ban shit like that? How on earth is the average person supposed to know every single federal, state, county, and local law? He may not have read the law but that's what he said. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:06:14 PM EDT
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Can't they just ban Democrats since they do most of the shootings?
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:07:33 PM EDT
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SC is still a red state, but Columbia is a chocolate city. It will be dead broke in a few years.
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:08:46 PM EDT
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If it's not a firearm part, then the object it's attached to isn't a firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You'd think the city attorney would know about preemption. WHEREAS, in 2010 the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declared a “bump stock” is a firearm part and is not regulated as a firearm under the U.S. Gun Control Act or the National Firearms Act; and, WHEREAS, “bump stocks” and “trigger cranks” and similar devices are not firearms or firearm components, but rather separately purchased optional devices with the purpose and design of dramatically increasing the firing rate of an otherwise legal weapon to a firing speed and capability of unlawful weapons; and, WHEREAS, South Carolina Code of Laws Section 23-31-510 prohibits a municipality from enacting any regulation or ordinance that regulates "firearms, ammunition, components or firearms or any combination of these things", "bump stocks" and "trigger cranks" as defined herein do not fall under this category based upon the definitions of such under applicable Federal Law; and, 
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Posted: 12/20/2017 3:13:11 PM EDT
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When I in-processed at Fort Jackson we were given a brief about the area. A black full bird came in to talk about the local racism. Me being a yankee, I thought "well, this is the birthplace of the Civil War."
He then stated "White people, it's directed at you." After that my sponsor took me to Fatz cafe just outside the main gate. Sure as shit the black hostess literally looked past us and seated the black couple that came in after us. I didn't get triggered and didn't give a shit, I thought it was funny given the briefing I just had. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 5:45:59 PM EDT
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@schneecat, our resident pro 2a attorney is all over it. He has sued the city before and won. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 5:48:26 PM EDT
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