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Link Posted: 10/22/2021 9:21:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By walther1978:
Extra DBAL sitting around. Works great!

Going to try it out this weekend with some coyotes.

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Link Posted: 10/22/2021 4:58:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Des2B:
Well I did it boys, I finally joined the NV crew, here's my humble setup. Photonis Echo WP from NGI, took about 3 weeks but totally worth it.

Only thing I'm currently waiting on is the retention strap from HHV, curious to see how well it works.

Next step is to get some better ear pros, thinking Peltor Comtacs but curious to hear what the hive recommends.

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What helmet is that?
Link Posted: 10/24/2021 10:45:31 PM EST
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Have a PVS-30 coming in. Has anyone used one of those on a SCAR 17, and did it last?

Otherwise I'll stick it on another gun, but was curious.
Link Posted: 10/24/2021 10:53:46 PM EST
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One of my favorite gun shops is carrying ATN night vision and thermal. I was thinking about giving the thermal a shot but seems to be mixed reviews in my research.
Anyone here running any of that brand? I know it’s a bit cheaper but currently I only own a Gen 1 scope and would like to set up a nice night coyote hunting rig.
Link Posted: 10/24/2021 11:19:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
One of my favorite gun shops is carrying ATN night vision and thermal. I was thinking about giving the thermal a shot but seems to be mixed reviews in my research.
Anyone here running any of that brand? I know it’s a bit cheaper but currently I only own a Gen 1 scope and would like to set up a nice night coyote hunting rig.
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my best friend got an ATN WP PVS14 bundle from arms unlimited with IR lights for his truck for $2k; it didn't come with a data sheet but I'd guess the resolution is about 54lpm. It actually looks white, compared to the bluish tint my L3 WP tubes have.

Its functional, but I'd rather save up or sell something from a collection the extra grand to get an actual gen 3 unit from anyone besides ATN.
Link Posted: 10/24/2021 11:29:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
One of my favorite gun shops is carrying ATN night vision and thermal. I was thinking about giving the thermal a shot but seems to be mixed reviews in my research.
Anyone here running any of that brand? I know it's a bit cheaper but currently I only own a Gen 1 scope and would like to set up a nice night coyote hunting rig.
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I'd steer away from ATN based on reputation alone.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 12:24:32 AM EST
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It's been cloud covered every night for the past week. I'd love to catch some aurora shots here soon.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 7:31:00 AM EST
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Is it worth owning “extra” night vision?

How quickly could you train someone to use NV? assuming they have zero experience
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 7:44:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kits4:
Is it worth owning “extra” night vision?

How quickly could you train someone to use NV? assuming they have zero experience
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Of course it is.  If nothing else they can pull static security. Takes about 3 min teach someone how to use a PVS-14 if all we're talking about is turning it on and focusing it.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 7:59:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kits4:
Is it worth owning “extra” night vision?

How quickly could you train someone to use NV? assuming they have zero experience
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I have 4 setups, two of them are for me depending on what I’m doing. Normally, I use one of my two and my daughter, SIL and granddaughter use the other three. I sometimes go out with friends who have never used NV and it takes about 15 minutes to fit them and teach them the controls. They’re ready to stumble around in the dark right away.



Crye NiteCaps are perfect for loaner units. The skateboard helmet is for my granddaughter as a NiteCap won’t adjust small enough for her.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 8:00:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kits4:
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That depends. I have a Mod3 B strictly as a backup. I chose that platform because it can be split into two monoculars with manual gan control and I can pair one of them up with my Chinaskeet.

The tubes dont match but that's not much of an issue. One tube is brighter so in binocular configuration I just dial in the brightness to the other.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 8:56:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Apec:
Have a PVS-30 coming in. Has anyone used one of those on a SCAR 17, and did it last?

Otherwise I'll stick it on another gun, but was curious.
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Kac says dont do it.

Its your 30 though, let us know how it goes.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 9:34:58 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/28/2021 9:50:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kits4:
Is it worth owning “extra” night vision?

How quickly could you train someone to use NV? assuming they have zero experience
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I say yes. I have a set of decent duals and 2 different decent single tube sets. I’ve considered selling the single tube sets and some of my LAMs and maybe a rifle and acquiring a high end set of duals. However, I have a wife and 3 young kiddos (2, 5, 7). I’m hopeful that one day I can get one or more of them to go hunting or at least hiking at night with me.
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 10:33:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:


It’s important that brands match.

So sell SCAR, get SR25.
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Lmao
Link Posted: 10/28/2021 12:56:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:

Kac says dont do it.

Its your 30 though, let us know how it goes.
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Originally Posted By shelbysguns:
Originally Posted By Apec:
Have a PVS-30 coming in. Has anyone used one of those on a SCAR 17, and did it last?

Otherwise I'll stick it on another gun, but was curious.

Kac says dont do it.

Its your 30 though, let us know how it goes.

Well, it won’t even fit on the rail space I have left (without moving my day optic to an unusable eye relief/position)

So it won’t be happening regardless

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Link Posted: 10/29/2021 2:07:56 AM EST
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Colabro acquired Omni VII with ITT Pinnacle tube/glass pvs-14.




Sometimes I put the LIF on the ocular and LARP as WP master race:


Link Posted: 10/29/2021 7:08:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/29/2021 11:33:22 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/29/2021 11:52:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Just used NODs/COTI to sneak into a room of 3 sleeping kids to replace an under-pillow tooth with money.

Nightdad skills.
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I did this as well! Love it
Link Posted: 10/29/2021 11:54:49 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2021 12:34:50 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2021 1:02:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Just used NODs/COTI to sneak into a room of 3 sleeping kids to replace an under-pillow tooth with money.

Nightdad skills.
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Big Dad Energy
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 6:11:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Just used NODs/COTI to sneak into a room of 3 sleeping kids to replace an under-pillow tooth with money.

Nightdad skills.
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And that makes the purchase price alone worth every penny.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 6:42:44 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2021 8:02:17 AM EST
[#26]
NODs are a tool every parent should have.

My son would wake up at night turn the light on and immediately start playing and throwing crap in his room.

A booming voice in the dark telling him to go to bed at 1 am solved that.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 8:47:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 20iner:


If you can't buy outright TNVC offers financing.
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Originally Posted By 20iner:
Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Is there a sale?


If you can't buy outright TNVC offers financing.

😂😂😂😂

If you want to pay full retail plus- Finance from TNVC. Idiots pays full retail for even the best NV gear.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 8:51:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2021 9:54:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Apec:

Well, it won’t even fit on the rail space I have left (without moving my day optic to an unusable eye relief/position)

So it won’t be happening regardless

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If only they made that gun with a modern amount of top rail.

Then you could kill two optics at a time.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 12:38:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
First to make NightViper patches wins:

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I still have that action figure in a container with a bunch of other cobra vipers
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 1:00:52 PM EST
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Primary Arms has some IR Surefire lights discounted bigly if you all would like to spend some more money.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 1:42:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FR8D4WG:
Primary Arms has some IR Surefire lights discounted bigly if you all would like to spend some more money.
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PA and their "just add to cart to see price" is an asshole sales tactic.  Screw that.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 1:55:39 PM EST
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I've been wanting to get into NV for a few years!! But I just don't understand all the #s that go along with the data sheets, what's good, whats acceptable and whats bad.  I have been looking at 1 of those "all in one" packages for around 4500 but idk if thats even a good deal.  That being said, I keep trying to follow posts about it and 1 day ill get one.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 3:30:02 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/30/2021 5:44:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By pdm:



PA and their "just add to cart to see price" is an asshole sales tactic.  Screw that.
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Originally Posted By pdm:
Originally Posted By FR8D4WG:
Primary Arms has some IR Surefire lights discounted bigly if you all would like to spend some more money.



PA and their "just add to cart to see price" is an asshole sales tactic.  Screw that.

Arms unlimited still has the m300v for a hair under $300.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 5:52:30 PM EST
[#36]
It looks like all of the V lights at PA are $329.
Link Posted: 10/30/2021 7:06:45 PM EST
[#37]
But night vision for your gun, too.

Link Posted: 10/30/2021 8:19:28 PM EST
[#38]
Ugh.  Bought the Arms Unlimited universal smartphone adapter...

I guess you have to remove the eye piece on the nods?  Might just return it unless someone else wants to buy it from me
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 6:54:44 AM EST
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Deal Alert:

Ebay seller has the Streamlight TLR 2 IR Eye Safe for $229.00. They are over 400 everywhere else. Seller has good feedback (I have no connection to them....I just ordered one).

I will report back on thursday, if it's a scam or used or whatever I'll let y'all know.

FWIW, This is the one with the big beam IR and IR laser, only. Not the TLR 1 VIR2 which is large white light and two dinky IR LED (one flood one laser).

I had been looking at the Surefire XC2 IR only laser and light mentioned earlier as on sale at Primary Arms for 329 (70 dollar savings). I may still get one of those since it's half the weight of the streamlight. Would have been nice to compare them side by side. I'm betting performance is similar since power is governed by law.

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 7:19:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Deal Alert:

Ebay seller has the Streamlight TLR 2 IR Eye Safe for $229.00. They are over 400 everywhere else. Seller has good feedback (I have no connection to them....I just ordered one).

I will report back on thursday, if it's a scam or used or whatever I'll let y'all know.

FWIW, This is the one with the big beam IR and IR laser, only. Not the TLR 1 VIR2 which is large white light and two dinky IR LED (one flood one laser).

I had been looking at the Surefire XC2 IR only laser and light mentioned earlier as on sale at Primary Arms for 329 (70 dollar savings). I may still get one of those since it's half the weight of the streamlight. Would have been nice to compare them side by side. I'm betting performance is similar since power is governed by law.

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I suspect the XC2 led is much less capable than the TLR.

Also the TLR Eye Safe's IR illuminator is focusable and you can select IR laser/LED/both. And it accepts the Streamlight TLR remote switch battery door.

I doubt these will last long. It looks like the seller is down to 5.

I'm surprised these don't come up very often. Seems like a capable option.

Link Posted: 10/31/2021 7:22:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The Perst 3, MAWL, and DBAL D2 all have excellent illuminators, and are all readily available to civilians
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 7:37:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I had been looking at the Surefire XC2 IR only laser and light mentioned earlier as on sale at Primary Arms for 329 (70 dollar savings). I may still get one of those since it's half the weight of the streamlight. Would have been nice to compare them side by side. I'm betting performance is similar since power is governed by law.

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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yeah, the FDA only limits laser output, so any restrictions on IR illuminator power is limited to the laser illuminators, not LED illuminators.

Even though you can technically own full power laser illuminators, it's expensive and a gray area for any kind of service.

But something like a DBAL D2 uses an LED illuminator so it can be as powerful as it wants without any kind of restrictions.

The TLR and Surefire options you're discussing are also LED based.

LED is typically less desirable due to the red visible glow that the lens produces because LEDs produce light in a wider wavelength range than laser illuminators (which keep output very close to the desired wavelength without much spill down into the visible spectrum).
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 7:55:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
yeah, the FDA only limits laser output, so any restrictions on IR illuminator power is limited to the laser illuminators, not LED illuminators.

Even though you can technically own full power laser illuminators, it's expensive and a gray area for any kind of service.

But something like a DBAL D2 uses an LED illuminator so it can be as powerful as it wants without any kind of restrictions.

The TLR and Surefire options you're discussing are also LED based.

LED is typically less desirable due to the red visible glow that the lens produces because LEDs produce light in a wider wavelength range than laser illuminators (which keep output very close to the desired wavelength without much spill down into the visible spectrum).
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I had been looking at the Surefire XC2 IR only laser and light mentioned earlier as on sale at Primary Arms for 329 (70 dollar savings). I may still get one of those since it's half the weight of the streamlight. Would have been nice to compare them side by side. I'm betting performance is similar since power is governed by law.

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
yeah, the FDA only limits laser output, so any restrictions on IR illuminator power is limited to the laser illuminators, not LED illuminators.

Even though you can technically own full power laser illuminators, it's expensive and a gray area for any kind of service.

But something like a DBAL D2 uses an LED illuminator so it can be as powerful as it wants without any kind of restrictions.

The TLR and Surefire options you're discussing are also LED based.

LED is typically less desirable due to the red visible glow that the lens produces because LEDs produce light in a wider wavelength range than laser illuminators (which keep output very close to the desired wavelength without much spill down into the visible spectrum).

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

I think I just see how I like the TLR eyesafe before moving on anything else. Kind of sucks not being able to compare all this stuff in person. Taking pot shots at zeroing in on what I want, in hundreds of dollar each increments gets expensive.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 8:06:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I see. Thanks for the clarification.

I think I just see how I like the TLR eyesafe before moving on anything else. Kind of sucks not being able to compare all this stuff in person. Taking pot shots at zeroing in on what I want, in hundreds of dollar each increments gets expensive.
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I just bought a couple of those TLR Eyesafes. In theory, it's a great option for an IR only solution. I like the VIR2, but its floody IR light really limits it's range. I have a surefire X400V on a 10.5" gun, which I really like, but it's an expensive option.

The Eyesafe TLR looks like just the thing I'm looking for for another rifle that could use some IR capability with a remote switch.

I guess we'll both see how they perform.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 8:25:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
I just bought a couple of those TLR Eyesafes. In theory, it's a great option for an IR only solution. I like the VIR2, but its floody IR light really limits it's range. I have a surefire X400V on a 10.5" gun, which I really like, but it's an expensive option.

The Eyesafe TLR looks like just the thing I'm looking for for another rifle that could use some IR capability with a remote switch.

I guess we'll both see how they perform.
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PA has the remote switches and tail caps (both styles) on sale. Still like 70 bucks to get the safe switch tail cap and a remote switch to convert one over. I think I'm going to see how I like the light before investing more money into it.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 9:00:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
There is this thing called "MAP pricing" that most manufacturers use now. It stands for "Minimum Advertised Price". Basically it's a socialist construct that says "you cannot ADVERTISE a price lower than X dollars." Most manufacturers use it and MAKE the vendors agree to it.
So when you see "add to cart for discounted price" or "CALL for best price" etc. THAT IS WHY. Because on the phone you will get a price better than "advertised' since on the phone it's not being "advertised" and the vendor can sell it for whatever the hell they want to over the phone.
On high dollar stuff like Thermal imagers, IR lasers etc. it's pretty much always worth the short call to save hundreds of dollars.

Here's a big clue- when you see multiple places all advertising the same product for the same exact price there is 99% of the time a "MAP policy" in effect.
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Aren't you still prohibited from going lower than a pre-determined figure from the manufacturer Rob?

Was never a fan of playing one Company off the other with price offers. Would much rather remain loyal to the one who provides a no BS transaction with a fair price to both parties. Therefore, down the road when another high dollar item comes around you hopefully remain in good graces with said vendor. I'd like to say more but don't want an appearance of favoritism or unethical practices.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 9:39:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Deal Alert:

Ebay seller has the Streamlight TLR 2 IR Eye Safe for $229.00. They are over 400 everywhere else. Seller has good feedback (I have no connection to them....I just ordered one).

I will report back on thursday, if it's a scam or used or whatever I'll let y'all know.

FWIW, This is the one with the big beam IR and IR laser, only. Not the TLR 1 VIR2 which is large white light and two dinky IR LED (one flood one laser).

I had been looking at the Surefire XC2 IR only laser and light mentioned earlier as on sale at Primary Arms for 329 (70 dollar savings). I may still get one of those since it's half the weight of the streamlight. Would have been nice to compare them side by side. I'm betting performance is similar since power is governed by law.

Which is another reason I can't see spending the 500-1200 for one of the larger outfits like a dbal, etc. As a civi, I'm only allowed so much power. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Link Posted: 10/31/2021 9:48:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:

Aren't you still prohibited from going lower than a pre-determined figure from the manufacturer Rob?

Was never a fan of playing one Company off the other with price offers. Would much rather remain loyal to the one who provides a no BS transaction with a fair price to both parties. Therefore, down the road when another high dollar item comes around you hopefully remain in good graces with said vendor. I'd like to say more but don't want an appearance of favoritism or unethical practices.
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Originally Posted By GunnyFitz:
Originally Posted By Lowdown3:
There is this thing called "MAP pricing" that most manufacturers use now. It stands for "Minimum Advertised Price". Basically it's a socialist construct that says "you cannot ADVERTISE a price lower than X dollars." Most manufacturers use it and MAKE the vendors agree to it.
So when you see "add to cart for discounted price" or "CALL for best price" etc. THAT IS WHY. Because on the phone you will get a price better than "advertised' since on the phone it's not being "advertised" and the vendor can sell it for whatever the hell they want to over the phone.
On high dollar stuff like Thermal imagers, IR lasers etc. it's pretty much always worth the short call to save hundreds of dollars.

Here's a big clue- when you see multiple places all advertising the same product for the same exact price there is 99% of the time a "MAP policy" in effect.

Aren't you still prohibited from going lower than a pre-determined figure from the manufacturer Rob?

Was never a fan of playing one Company off the other with price offers. Would much rather remain loyal to the one who provides a no BS transaction with a fair price to both parties. Therefore, down the road when another high dollar item comes around you hopefully remain in good graces with said vendor. I'd like to say more but don't want an appearance of favoritism or unethical practices.
a vendor can sell their merchandise for whatever price they want to. Obviously the lower the price, the lower their profits, but ultimately if they wanted to move the inventory or sell to someone special they could sell at a loss. Once you purchase it from the wholesaler, it's your property and you can do whatever you want with it.

MAP pricing is a stipulation from the manufacturer that the vendor can't advertise their product lower than the MAP.

That's why you have to ad the item to your cart, or call, or email, etc to request a quote. That way the lower-than-MAP number isn't advertised, but they can still sell at that price.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 11:24:45 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Daggertt:
yeah, the FDA only limits laser output, so any restrictions on IR illuminator power is limited to the laser illuminators, not LED illuminators.

Even though you can technically own full power laser illuminators, it's expensive and a gray area for any kind of service.

But something like a DBAL D2 uses an LED illuminator so it can be as powerful as it wants without any kind of restrictions.

The TLR and Surefire options you're discussing are also LED based.

LED is typically less desirable due to the red visible glow that the lens produces because LEDs produce light in a wider wavelength range than laser illuminators (which keep output very close to the desired wavelength without much spill down into the visible spectrum).
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Everyone thinks the civilian MAWLs are eye safe until they read the manual.
Link Posted: 10/31/2021 12:07:01 PM EST
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I've been waiting patiently for the arrival of a Steiner Mini Tor IR laser from Optics Planet. Guess it was out of stock when I ordered it - they shipped about a week later apparently via tortoise.

Finally arrives, and I verify the box says "IR" before opening. Install the battery, and manage to touch the go button while doing so. A bright red dot appears. Huh? Sure enough, it appears it was mis-packaged from the factory.

What's the old joke, "If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all?"
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