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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:34:46 PM EDT
 Live: Watch live as an Atlas 5 rocket gets ready to launch Boeing's Starliner capsule De-orbit/landing webcast:  Boeing #Starliner Spacecraft Deorbit Burn and Landing (Official NASA Broadcast) |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:37:55 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm ready.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:41:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the heads up
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:44:01 PM EDT
[#3]
I hope it blows up.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:46:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it blows up. Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:47:15 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it blows up. 
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:50:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Pre-launch poll all go-for-launch.
4 minutes to launch. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:52:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#8]
That drastic diameter changed is what I see when I'm short on science points in Kerbal Space Program.
 Kharn |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:53:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like an enormous, Wang! |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:54:03 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hope it blows up. I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:54:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it blows up. I hope it goes up... ...this time. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:58:17 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it blows up. Why is that? |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:00:26 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trying to outdo Bezos.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It looks like an enormous, Wang! ULA can hit orbit any day they want. That's thousands of m/s ahead of Bezos. Kharn |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:01:20 PM EDT
[#14]
It's about time. SpaceX has been doing this for how long now?
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:01:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Looks very similar to the Hitachi Starliner
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:01:53 PM EDT
[#16]
My favorite comment in that live stream, after BECO...
"When do they switch to the landing cameras for the booster?" FULA. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:02:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Well it made it.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:02:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ULA can hit orbit any day they want. That's thousands of m/s ahead of Bezos. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It looks like an enormous, Wang! ULA can hit orbit any day they want. That's thousands of m/s ahead of Bezos. Kharn Of course! But I was talking about the flying dildo look... 
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:04:47 PM EDT
[#19]
How is it that all they have is an animation?
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:05:12 PM EDT
[#20]
I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:05:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My favorite comment in that live stream, after BECO... "When do they switch to the landing cameras for the booster?" FULA. 
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:06:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:07:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope it blows up. I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:07:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope it blows up. I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:08:54 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well it made it. We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:09:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch. It's really curious to think they are intending to continue on like this at ULA for the foreseeable future. SpaceX is like seeing diesel locomotives while an Atlas looks downright steam powered. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:09:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. Covid, 737 max in a nutshell |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. They got paid double what SpaceX did to develop their crew capsule and still fucked up their first attempt (a few years ago) so badly that NASA had to develop of a massive laundry list of fixes that had to be completed before they'd be allowed to try again. And they directly intervened to double check their programmer's work. And Boeing had the gall after that fiasco to hold their hat out and demand more money. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:12:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Launch was fake. Boeing is just streaming Kerbal.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:28:32 PM EDT
[#30]
looks like orbital burn was good. 24 hours to go to reach ISS
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:29:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well it made it. We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:29:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2022 7:45:04 PM EDT
[#33]
The guy next to him looks kind of Vulcan...
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:34:58 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well it made it. We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:36:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy next to him looks kind of Vulcan... Spot on.Someone with skills needs to photoshop the ear. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:44:08 PM EDT
[#36]
They are terrible when it comes time to pay their vendors. It's a sham.
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:48:20 PM EDT
[#37]
Remember the Apollo's ... Damn I've got to put watching a launch on my bucket list
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Posted: 5/19/2022 8:58:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's about time. SpaceX has been doing this for how long now? And SpaceX has both the rockets and the spacecraft. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 9:03:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Launch is at 6:03:30 into the vid
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Posted: 5/19/2022 9:08:23 PM EDT
[#40]
How many million more did that cost than Space X?
Hilarious they had an animation and their camera looked to be standard def when it was on. SpaceX has much better cameras. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 9:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many million more did that cost than Space X? Hilarious they had an animation and their camera looked to be standard def when it was on. SpaceX has much better cameras. As of 2019, estimated at 345 mil per Boeing Starliner flight versus 209 mil per Spacex Crew dragon flight. But I believe that was before the failed OFT-1 uncrewed demonstration flight in December of 2019. IIRC, Boeing went crying to NASA afterward that they needed more money or else they'd pull out of the commercial crew program. For which I think NASA gave them an unsolicited request for proposal for some further business that they did not also SpaceX. going from memory here. Not sure what ever came from that. In real terms, I suspect there's no way for us to easily know what the Boeing Starliner is actually costing per flight. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 10:03:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As of 2019, estimated at 345 mil per Boeing Starliner flight versus 209 mil per Spacex Crew dragon flight. But I believe that was before the failed OFT-1 uncrewed demonstration flight in December of 2019. IIRC, Boeing went crying to NASA afterward that they needed more money or else they'd pull out of the commercial crew program. For which I think NASA gave them an unsolicited request for proposal for some further business that they did not also SpaceX. going from memory here. Not sure what ever came from that. In real terms, I suspect there's no way for us to easily know what the Boeing Starliner is actually costing per flight. Quick look at the numbers says starliner at over twice the cost of all crew dragon program (including all it manned missions) to date. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 11:16:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick look at the numbers says starliner at over twice the cost of all crew dragon program (including all it manned missions) to date. The real fun part is that it launches from a booster (Atlas/Centaur) we're basically out of, and not making any more. It'll have to be modified and retested for either the new Vulcan/Centaur, if Blue Origin ever gets BE-4 production going at any real volume; or the Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy booster. It's too heavy for any other non-Russian booster currently in service, but might also be able to be used with Terran-R, or a future iteration of Neutron (with a bigger integrated fairing). Might be able to be used with the bigger Chicom or perhaps Indian boosters, too. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 11:18:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quick look at the numbers says starliner at over twice the cost of all crew dragon program (including all it manned missions) to date. Yourshipmentoffailhasarrived.meme
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Posted: 5/19/2022 11:28:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The real fun part is that it launches from a booster (Atlas/Centaur) we're basically out of, and not making any more. It'll have to be modified and retested for either the new Vulcan/Centaur, if Blue Origin ever gets BE-4 production going at any real volume; or the Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy booster. It's too heavy for any other non-Russian booster currently in service, but might also be able to be used with Terran-R, or a future iteration of Neutron (with a bigger integrated fairing). Might be able to be used with the bigger Chicom or perhaps Indian boosters, too. Japanese H-3 |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 11:45:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Neutron doesn't have enough throw weight to carry Starliner, I think. It's too chonky. Possibly in an expendable configuration?
Perhaps Neutron might be scaled up? It's not even available in mock up form yet. |
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Posted: 5/19/2022 11:46:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch.  Rocket explosion compilation |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:01:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neutron doesn't have enough throw weight to carry Starliner, I think. It's too chonky. Possibly in an expendable configuration? Perhaps Neutron might be scaled up? It's not even available in mock up form yet. Starliner is 13000kg, Neutron reportedly will have a throw weight of 15000kg to LEO. The problem would be the 4.5m integral, non-disposable fairing, which will not fit the 5.03m-wide Starliner. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 2:23:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Starliner is 13000kg, Neutron reportedly will have a throw weight of 15000kg to LEO. The problem would be the 4.5m integral, non-disposable fairing, which will not fit the 5.03m-wide Starliner. If Neutron is fitted with a capsule they will be removing the faring for that flight. Also, apparently Starliner is having engine issues.   Latest glitch with Boeing Starliner! Why did NASA let this thing dock with ISS? I've been talking to friends about the differences between Starliner and Dragon. I would say that Starliner is like the Jefferson Airplane of space vehicles. Jefferson Starliner? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 2:34:29 PM EDT
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