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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:16:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Why did they design it to look like a dildo?
Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:22:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did they design it to look like a dildo? Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:33:18 PM EDT
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347,000 feet altitude ?
That's impressive any way you want to look at it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:39:24 PM EDT
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I don't get what Blue Origins goal is. If I remember right, they've been around longer than SpaceX with lot more funding but all they do is repeat the New Sheppard thing. They haven't put so much as an ounce in orbit.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get what Blue Origins goal is. If I remember right, they've been around longer than SpaceX with lot more funding but all they do is repeat the New Sheppard thing. They haven't put so much as an ounce in orbit. Bezos's divorce probably had something to do with funding/development. I think it was put on the back burner until all that was settled. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:45:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get what Blue Origins goal is. If I remember right, they've been around longer than SpaceX with lot more funding but all they do is repeat the New Sheppard thing. They haven't put so much as an ounce in orbit. I don't get it either. They seem to be trying to stay in last place. I expected a lot more progress than anyone has seen so far. Are they just milking federal money or are they completely funded by Bezos? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:47:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:52:53 PM EDT
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They plan on maybe someday perhaps developing an orbital class rocket (New Glenn?).
They are building an engine for ULA (BE-4?) They are also part of the "National Team" developing a lunar lander system. Big blue ball. Bezos does seem to have a fascination with male genitalia. I wonder why they did not have two engines in the New Shepherd. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:57:07 PM EDT
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There is no plans to build, they are building it as we speak. There is a launch pad almost finished and a gigantic factory near the pad.
That said, he is way behind Musk. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:08:16 PM EDT
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As I keep saying.
A former employee of Blue Origin wrote a book about evacuating Earth called Seveneves. I thought it was telling that in a scenario where every single space going rocket was being desperately used to get as much crap off of the planet as possible that Blue Origin's rockets were nowhere to be seen anywhere in the story. The Russians were, the Europeans had a significant subplot. Falcon Heavy was explicitly mentioned. But Blue Origin... Who knows, perhaps they will get their collective rears in gear right before SpaceX has a defacto moon colonization monopoly and make a fool out of me? 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:11:07 PM EDT
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Fuck that penis looking fucker, Jeff Bezos.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did they design it to look like a dildo? Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? Reminds me of something out of Flesh Gordon |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:23:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get what Blue Origins goal is. If I remember right, they've been around longer than SpaceX with lot more funding but all they do is repeat the New Sheppard thing. They haven't put so much as an ounce in orbit. SpaceX has performed more orbital launches in the last 6 months than Blue Origin has total launches in the companies history and BO has been around longer. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SpaceX has performed more orbital launches in the last 6 months than Blue Origin has total launches in the companies history and BO has been around longer. SpaceX has performed more orbital launches in the last 6 months than anyone. Maybe combined but I haven’t added up the numbers. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:28:35 PM EDT
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It’s a glorified sub-orbital technical demonstrator, their next rocket will be actually useful.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:30:35 PM EDT
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If Bezos is running it, they need to change the name to Blue Falcon.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:35:12 PM EDT
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It’s a fucking circus ride.
New Glenn or bustz |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SpaceX has performed more orbital launches in the last 6 months than anyone. Maybe combined but I haven’t added up the numbers. SpaceX launched about 42% of the total dV adjusted tonnage to orbit last year. When Starship is flying though, it wont be hyperbole to read headlines like "Last year SpaceX launches more tonnage to orbit than every other rocket launch in the World since Sputnik combined" |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They plan on maybe someday perhaps developing an orbital class rocket (New Glenn?). They are building an engine for ULA (BE-4?) They are also part of the "National Team" developing a lunar lander system. Big blue ball. Bezos does seem to have a fascination with male genitalia. I wonder why they did not have two engines in the New Shepherd. The New Glenn factory is complete and they are building the first New Glenn as we speak. Which if it beats SLS/Starship it will be the biggest rocket since the Saturn5 for a short while. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:37:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SpaceX launched about 42% of the total dV adjusted tonnage to orbit last year. When Starship is flying though, it wont be hyperbole to read headlines like "Last year SpaceX launches more tonnage to orbit than every other rocket launch in the World since Sputnik combined" Where do you pull the dV adjusted tonnage numbers from or are you doing the math yourself? Just curious to check them out. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:40:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do you pull the dV adjusted tonnage numbers from or are you doing the math yourself? Just curious to check them out. I am very surprised it's that low actually. Though I guess one delta heavy equals several falcon 9s |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder why they did not have two engines in the New Shepherd. Two engines would increase the dry mass, increase the G forces on the meat sacks taking the carnival ride, TWR would force them to do a suicide burn on landing instead of being able to hover, if they wanted to do a one engine landing it would be offset thrust similar to the SN5/6 launches. Two engines would minimize gravity losses and give you roll control with the engines though. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did they design it to look like a dildo? Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? Bezos is apparently very brave. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:46:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no plans to build, they are building it as we speak. There is a launch pad almost finished and a gigantic factory near the pad. That said, he is way behind Musk. I've already posted a picture of a large section being moved here. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The New Glenn factory is complete and they are building the first New Glenn as we speak. Which if it beats SLS/Starship it will be the biggest rocket since the Saturn5 for a short while. They built the factory first... That seems like a really bad idea. But if it works out for them...  New Glenn: Blue Origins Big Reusable Rocket Production vehicle looks significantly less phallic. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:05:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do you pull the dV adjusted tonnage numbers from or are you doing the math yourself? Just curious to check them out. I've been keeping at database of all launches on an excel file dV adjusted means it uses the rocket equation and the isp of an apogee raise motor (~320) to adjust payloads upwards. You end up with rough multiples like this: 1.00 185kmx28d LEO 1.06 ISS 1.23 550km SSO 2.22 GTO-1800 2.44 GTO-1500 2.72 TLI 3.94 GEO So a 5.5 tonne normal F9 GTO payload would count for 12,200 kg. A 15,600kg Starlink payload counts for around 16,500. The recent Delta IV ~6500kg (est) Orion payload lifted to GTO-400 counts as an adjusted 22,543kg payload... etc. Totals for 2020 are: 332,904kg SpaceX (USA) 178,786kg China 79,577kg ULA (USA) 71,353kg Russia 64,621kg Ariane/Vega/EU 34,517kg Mitsubishi/Japan 17,052kg Northrop Grumman (USA) 3,781kg India 687kg Rocket Lab 350kg Israel Can DM you the excel file if you want |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been keeping at database of all launches on an excel file dV adjusted means it uses the rocket equation and the isp of an apogee raise motor (~320) to adjust payloads upwards. You end up with rough multiples like this: 1.00 185kmx28d LEO 1.06 ISS 1.23 550km SSO 2.22 GTO-1800 2.44 GTO-1500 2.72 TLI 3.94 GEO So a 5.5 tonne normal F9 GTO payload would count for 12,200 kg. A 15,600kg Starlink payload counts for around 16,500. The recent Delta IV ~6500kg (est) Orion payload lifted to GTO-400 counts as an adjusted 22,543kg payload... etc. Totals for 2020 are: 332,904kg SpaceX (USA) 178,786kg China 79,577kg ULA (USA) 71,353kg Russia 64,621kg Ariane/Vega/EU 34,517kg Mitsubishi/Japan 17,052kg Northrop Grumman (USA) 3,781kg India 687kg Rocket Lab 350kg Israel Can DM you the excel file if you want Thank you. I'm still tickled by the fact that New Zealand technically has a space program. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am very surprised it's that low actually. Though I guess one delta heavy equals several falcon 9s The largest individual adjusted payloads for 2020 in my ranking system were: 24,019kg (9,804kg to GTO-1490) VA253 -(Ariane 5, EU) 22,627kg (9,236kg to GTO-1490) VA252 -(Ariane 5, EU) 22,543kg (6,500kg to GTO-400) Orion 9 -(Delta IV Heavy, USA) 22,478kg (21,600kg to LEO) XZF Spacecraft Prototype -(CZ-5B, China) 22,283kg (8,200kg to TLI) Chang'e5 -(CZ-5, China) 17,475kg (16,500kg to ISS) HTV-9 -(H-2B, Japan) 17,063kg (6,976kg to GTO-1495) VA251 -(Ariane 5,EU) Each Starlink flight was about 16,500kg adjusted |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:22:28 PM EDT
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Shame someone doesn’t revive the RHOMBUS concept
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:24:47 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with competition in the launch business. The US dominates this sector, after lagging for years. Notice that it is the private sector that is excelling, not NASA.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't get what Blue Origins goal is. If I remember right, they've been around longer than SpaceX with lot more funding but all they do is repeat the New Sheppard thing. They haven't put so much as an ounce in orbit. Elon wants to colonize Mars and the outer planets. Bezos wants to build giant O’Neill cylinders - space colonies orbiting Earth. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:27:18 PM EDT
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It was made in Bezos image.
That is why it looks like a dildo. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was made in Bezos image. That is why it looks like a dildo. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:34:34 PM EDT
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Where in west Texas do the launch from?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did they design it to look like a dildo? Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? The head of the rocket is shaped like that to pull competing spacecraft out of the sky's vagina. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:43:06 PM EDT
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Van Horn TX
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been keeping at database of all launches on an excel file dV adjusted means it uses the rocket equation and the isp of an apogee raise motor (~320) to adjust payloads upwards. You end up with rough multiples like this: 1.00 185kmx28d LEO 1.06 ISS 1.23 550km SSO 2.22 GTO-1800 2.44 GTO-1500 2.72 TLI 3.94 GEO So a 5.5 tonne normal F9 GTO payload would count for 12,200 kg. A 15,600kg Starlink payload counts for around 16,500. The recent Delta IV ~6500kg (est) Orion payload lifted to GTO-400 counts as an adjusted 22,543kg payload... etc. Totals for 2020 are: 332,904kg SpaceX (USA) 178,786kg China 79,577kg ULA (USA) 71,353kg Russia 64,621kg Ariane/Vega/EU 34,517kg Mitsubishi/Japan 17,052kg Northrop Grumman (USA) 3,781kg India 687kg Rocket Lab 350kg Israel Can DM you the excel file if you want Shot you a PM, thanks! A fully refueled Starship will absolutely crush those numbers 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did they design it to look like a dildo? Is there so kind of aerodynamic advantage to a mushroom head design? Compromise driven by subsonic launch that quickly becomes hyper-velocity in still thick atmosphere. It makes sure the Mach waves (shock waves) created by the nose stay away from the rear of the booster. Mach waves from one part of a vehicle that they intersect a trailing part can wreck an enormous amount of damage on the trailing area. Mach flight is dangerous enough. |
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