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Posted: 4/28/2023 2:36:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Isenhelm]
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you need bass traps
and/or a very dense barrier between the rooms also set you speakers on isolators so they aren't vibrating through floor/wall (eta-looks like the sub is on some sort of isolator, foam) those foam tiles wont stop the bass, they help keep down higher frequency reflections in the room though which is nice. |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 2:40:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Isenhelm: those foam tiles wont stop the bass, they help keep down higher frequency reflections in the room though which is nice. I was going to post pretty much this. Those tiles you see aren't to prevent sound from penetrating, they are there to improve the acoustics within a room. See how they are shaped funny? All those angles? It's very beneficial when it comes to reflecting sounds. The wedges are another variant. I once used a producer called auralex sheetblock. It was spendy and super heavy. The website had instructions on how to best use it when constructing walls. |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 3:06:56 AM EDT
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When I got this sub, my son put it on those foam sheets. He's trying to help me be able to listen to my music, without interfering with his work. I'll go look up bass traps; thanks for the info.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 3:19:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 67Firebird]
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Some of what I just read said that bass traps in the corners are more important than covering the wall, so maybe this two pack of corner traps on that wall would help. Is that true?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LENCHAPRDS--auralex-lenrd-studiofoam-bass-traps-charcoal-each Edit - Another option; https://www.guitarcenter.com/Ultimate-Acoustics/Acoustic-Bass-Trap-24x12x12-Bevel-2-Pack-1500000245768.gc?storeCode= |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 7:07:20 AM EDT
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Low frequencies are much harder to stop than high frequencies. You need to decouple the sub from the room, which can get very expensive. The sound vibrates the air in the room, which sets up sympathetic vibrations in any rigid object connected to it (floor and ceiling joists, wall studs, etc.)
Probably the best thing you can do is build out a second wall between your room and your son's room. Float the new wall by setting the bottom of the studs on thick rubber strips. Attach them to your wall only, preferably using wood dowels. Don't attach them to the ceiling. Fill the space with sound absorbing material. If you have the money, line the interior of the new space with lead sheeting. |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 7:26:08 AM EDT
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Headphones would seem like the obvious answer.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 7:27:50 AM EDT
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Im thinking you need some good headphones.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 7:34:33 AM EDT
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replace your speakers with in ears and a bass shaker
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Posted: 4/28/2023 8:33:23 AM EDT
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I do have headphones (Skull Candy Crusher Evo), and use them quite a bit, but I'm trying to avoid using them all day. It doesn't sound like I'll be able to though, because building walls and stuff would cost too much. Doing that would also require moving my door, and most likely making it a pocket door. There's only a few inches to work with there.
Thank you for helping to figure this out.  |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 9:15:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bounce19712]
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Block house, have the kid play his own music, move to the shed…. Longer house?
Good luck, Headphones was already said. I have a wood home. The best thing so far has been the sound bar relocated to as close to your head as possible. |
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Posted: 4/28/2023 9:56:49 AM EDT
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We're pretty locked in to our room choices, so there's no way to swap around to gain some distance. This is just an issue I've been fighting since the early 90s; I like music louder than anyone around me can tolerate.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 10:02:24 AM EDT
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What your asking is not easily possible due to physics. In order for objects to reduce/absorb sound, they need to be of similar size to the sound's wavelength. 100 Hz bass frequencies are roughly 10 feet in wavelength, 200 Hz is roughly 5 feet. So you'd need some really, really thick walls to be effective.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 10:23:08 AM EDT
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It sounds like my son and I just need to figure the settings for the max that I can do all day long. I appreciate you guys trying to help.
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Posted: 4/28/2023 10:34:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wildearp]
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staggered stud sound wall isolation framing.
Surprisingly, my house has this on the street side. I found out when running cable. Lead sheets under drywall is also a thing. Simplest thing is to buy a high quality set of audio headphones. Wife wears them when watching chick flick soap opera type drama series on the toob. It keeps my sanity. 
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Posted: 4/28/2023 5:02:17 PM EDT
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Headphones take away too much of the enjoyment. I don't like being tethered, and even if I used Bluetooth I get tired of wearing them. I talked to him when he was on break, and this weekend he'll remote into my PC and find the loudest setting that I can do anytime, like when he's working and maybe sleeping.
He texted me shortly after lunch, to let me know that he had to go into the city for the rest of the work day. I replied "Thanks", and my system volume is set to 80% right now.   |
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Posted: 4/30/2023 4:16:00 PM EDT
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We figured out settings that will work for now, and we're going to make some changes before checking it again. We're going to put TMS Mass Loaded Vinyl inside his closet (the shared wall), and on my side a couple Sound Dampening Blankets. If we do it soon enough, I'll post pics and results here.
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Posted: 5/1/2023 3:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eracer: Low frequencies are much harder to stop than high frequencies. You need to decouple the sub from the room, which can get very expensive. The sound vibrates the air in the room, which sets up sympathetic vibrations in any rigid object connected to it (floor and ceiling joists, wall studs, etc.) Probably the best thing you can do is build out a second wall between your room and your son's room. Float the new wall by setting the bottom of the studs on thick rubber strips. Attach them to your wall only, preferably using wood dowels. Don't attach them to the ceiling. Fill the space with sound absorbing material. If you have the money, line the interior of the new space with lead sheeting. From years of building Competition level car Audio systems and home theater systems, I don't think you are going to get what you want for what you would want to spend. I think the best you could do, is acoustic panels (or Bass traps) on sides of the wall between you, but I don't even think that is going to be worth it. You'd be better off and cheaper to build a tiny home/outbuilding several feet from the house and either put his office in it, or your man cave in it. Bass Travels. Can he wear headphones, while on the clock? So that he only hears who ever is on the phone/ Thats what I did when I worked from home and had a remote office down in Scott City, near Cape G. MY daughter or wife was always cranking my shit upstairs and no matter where I was in my house it really bugged me. |
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Posted: 5/1/2023 3:54:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: aeroworksxp]
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Not going to happen unless you turn your home into some weird foam castle for marginal results. Ever wonder why some guy in a car with subwoofers makes your house shake from down the road? All that distance, house siding, insulation, and furniture between you and that car didn't stop shit.
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Posted: 5/5/2023 7:56:24 PM EDT
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I'm still going to try. The second mat arrived yesterday, so today I put them up. I still need to get a 12" wide roll for the bottom, but the biggest part of that wall is covered on my side now.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 12:08:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eracer: Low frequencies are much harder to stop than high frequencies. You need to decouple the sub from the room, which can get very expensive. The sound vibrates the air in the room, which sets up sympathetic vibrations in any rigid object connected to it (floor and ceiling joists, wall studs, etc.) Probably the best thing you can do is build out a second wall between your room and your son's room. Float the new wall by setting the bottom of the studs on thick rubber strips. Attach them to your wall only, preferably using wood dowels. Don't attach them to the ceiling. Fill the space with sound absorbing material. If you have the money, line the interior of the new space with lead sheeting. Years ago we toured a model home that had a theatre off the main living area. Even with sound cranked up loud, you couldn't hear it right on other side of wall. Builder explained he de-coupled the sound with a false wall with air gap. The two walls don't touch each other at all. There's more to it than that as they also had a huge picture window and you couldn't hear the sound through that either. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 2:45:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 67Firebird: We're going to put TMS Mass Loaded Vinyl inside his closet (the shared wall), and on my side a couple Sound Dampening Blankets. My son is also putting doors on his closet, and lining those doors with that Mass Loaded Vinyl. I'm already listening to louder music, more often. The double walls idea sounds good, but it's too much for me right now. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 8:16:25 AM EDT
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Nothing to add other than to say you are a good dad who raised a good son. .
Two adults working together and compromising seems rare these days. Good luck and I’m looking forward to the updates. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 12:29:54 PM EDT
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Thank you. I appreciate that, and I'm proud of him.
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