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Things you speak of sound similar to demon encounters by Exorcists.

There is a dimensional veil that God has placed over our eyes & senses. Many have attempted to breach it at their own peril.

Side note.  My grandfather worked for Sandia Labs and we usually never knew about any of his projects. Classified mitary tech. My father as well worked on classified military projects.

My grandfather, refused to be near an ouiji board. I always assumed it was because of his Catholic Faith. But, now I wonder. He wouldn't speak about much, including his time in WWII.

You have made this thread very interesting.  Thank you.

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First off, I'm going with you so not doing anything outside of what you're willing to take on.  Secondly, .44 magnum 7.5" S&W Stealth Hunter Perf Comp wheel gun is the biggest I have.  Not shooting at one with that.  The REAP can come for acquisition to compliment yours.  NODS if helpful.  If no suppressed long gun, I'm only in discovery and defense mode.  

Like I said, 100% on your terms.  And I'm on board for the trip.

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This account here, knowing your football background and seemingly sound mind, has me, and many here, skeptical that they could not exist.

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Why no long gun?  Concealed is optimal?  IM me.  I do not have a 454.  A friend would lend me his S&W .460

If they see in IR the red headlamp is a giveaway as much as a long gun.  And with the latter I can defend myself.

Send me a load out list knowing I'd be driving to you, never met, to your woods, for this effort.  And I'm willing to do so...

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no evidence

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I don't believe in the supernatural.

Or more accurately,  I have yet to be convinced of anything supernatural.  If something supernatural manifests itself I will reevaluate my position.

Can anyone provide evidence of anything supernatural?  I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no.

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Ultimately, this.

There are folks that thrive on telling stories, and saying they “know stuff”, but when pressed for evidence, you’ll never get anything but a big fat zero.  You’ll get reams of fantastic tales, pseudoscientific gibberish (that never holds up under even a little scrutiny), “expert accounts” from completely unverifiable “sources” (which may or may not exist), and assertions that what they’re saying is true… but no facts and no evidence.  Many years of threads on the subject produce the same results every time.

Look at the “experts” in this thread, and so some research.  None of them has ever produced a single piece of evidence, and never will.  Hell, at least one has been caught in obvious lies.

You’d have to be a sucker to believe them.

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Nope. There would be plenty of carcasses if they existed.

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Ultimately, this.

There are folks that thrive on telling stories, and saying they “know stuff”, but when pressed for evidence, you’ll never get anything but a big fat zero.  You’ll get reams of fantastic tales, pseudoscientific gibberish (that never holds up under even a little scrutiny), “expert accounts” from completely unverifiable “sources” (which may or may not exist), and assertions that what they’re saying is true… but no facts and no evidence.  Many years of threads on the subject produce the same results every time.

Look at the “experts” in this thread, and so some research.  None of them has ever produced a single piece of evidence, and never will.  Hell, at least one has been caught in obvious lies.

You’d have to be a sucker to believe them.

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The whole inter dimensional thing sounds even more BS than a 900lbs monkey.  

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If other dimensions exist, why would they have co-located surfaces and planetary bodies.  

Things in other dimensions would likely correspond with empty space which is what well over 99.999999 percent of space is.  

You would see Bigfoot walking halfway to Alpha Centauri.

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It's been theorized that there are dimensions that occupy the same physical space that we do, but are beyond our perception. I never considered the angle of we can't perceive them because God intends us not to see them. So... does that lead to Bigfoot being a malevolent, supernatural entity (or entities)? Or something in between us and the things we're not supposed to see?

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I don’t claim to have any evidence of mythical creatures. You do.

I don’t claim to know about the behavior, psychology, and habits of mythical creatures (without being able to produce a shred of evidence to back it up). You do.

Anyone can tromp around in the woods and make footprints. This has been demonstrated many times.  You comment with great detail about these supposed creatures’ behavior, but somehow can’t produce a single clear photo or any solid data… after years of threads.  Isn’t that odd?

My profile (as imperfect as anyone’s) contains none of those traits. Yours does.  You can dip, dodge, dive, and make accusations, but ultimately, you have no counter to the fact that you’ve produced nothing except stories.  There is ample evidence to support my claims, yet none to support yours.  

Until you can support your thesis with facts instead of stories and stories about other people’s stories, the kindest word that can be applied to your posts is “folklore”. You

That’s the bottom line.

Back to the fact free safe space with you…

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It's been theorized that there are dimensions that occupy the same physical space that we do, but are beyond our perception. I never considered the angle of we can't perceive them because God intends us not to see them. So... does that lead to Bigfoot being a malevolent, supernatural entity (or entities)? Or something in between us and the things we're not supposed to see?

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We have a sub for
um for this.  Interesting we're five pages in here and no move.  Mention COV and it's moved before submitting your comment.  

Cool.

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So the bottom line here is that I provided evidence, ….

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Being open minded is being willing to believe even the improbable if there is evidence to support it.  There is a word for people who are just willing to believe anything… it’s a sucker.

The problem with squatchistas is that they love to talk about being open minded, but they never produce a shred of evidence.  They’ll prattle endlessly about all the evidence they’ve seen and all the evidence they have, but when it’s time to pony up, it’s distracting stories, excuses, and obfuscation.  It’s a pattern that is repeated again and again.

Watch for the following warning signs, whether it’s bigfeet, UFOs, ghosts, vampires, Loch Ness monsters, or whatever…

1. Vague references to secretly being “in the know” about kooky stuff.  A good one will be comfortably obscure enough to deny it if put on the spot.

2. Appeals to authority - totally unverifiable comments or experiences attributed to “experts” who may or may not actually exist.  Claims to know “important people” are common.

3. Discussion of facts until things get tough or caught in their own nonsense, then a context swap to mysticism and philosophy, often completely dodging the actual hard questions asked.  This technique is usually to make something extradimensional or supernatural when sorely pressed. The reason for this that, in that context, it’s perfectly ok to make up your own facts and rules as you go along.  Note that anything in this area is conveniently (and intentionally) unverifiable.

4. Vague accusations of people threatening or intimidating them. A corollary is that, when the metal hits the meat, making accusations that someone is a plant or disinformation agent of the MIB or similar nonsense.  Note that this is also conveniently unverifiable.

5. Portraying oneself as an expert providing high level info, then backing out and and claiming to not being anything of the kind when pressed.

6. Accusing anyone who points this repeatable pattern of behavior out of being a troll.

7. Always playing the victim, trying to share wisdom but bullied by mean people.

8. Implying that most people secretly believe them.

Always fun to look out for “Renfields” too. Recruited friends (true believers or fellow flimflam men, since the best hustles work in teams) that follow them around cheerleading them in threads and acting as the heavy when making accusations.

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Your “evidence” is just more stories. You know that.  That’s no lie.

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Thanks. That's where I'm at. I don't want to believe, it's too fantastical, but I can't deny what I saw.

I'll never ever forget that.

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Your “evidence” is just more stories. You know that.  That’s no lie.

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The evidence was photographs of physical evidence of the scene of an encounter with two Sasquatch.  My story accompanied the photos.  

P.S. The stories are also important.  It is evidence of activity.  If you get a cluster of stories in an area, that is material.  Not to mention each encounter story provides clues to the bigger picture.

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This is probably the most intriguing thing ive seen about the subject on Arf and any time the subject gets brought up you pretty much get overlooked because there is just not a rebuttal to your story.

At this point you have been here long enough and enough people know you personally to know that you are not just making random stuff up, and you were not alone.
I first heard about your story on here years ago.


Given what happened to you and your wife at the same time, there just is not an explanation for it. It wasnt mistaken what you saw and you arent making it up, it was just there.


Ultimately leaves us with our hands up in the air.

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If other dimensions exist, why would they have co-located surfaces and planetary bodies?

Things in other dimensions would likely correspond with empty space which is what well over 99.999999 percent of what space is.  

You would see Bigfoot walking halfway to Alpha Centauri.

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Do you even Mirror Universe bro?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/avVO0Slf6FmKc/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b95209039dfb272d81912b5f0c6f15d39d828367ce1a&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

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right.

so it still takes us back to square one.

Something was there. whatever was there exists in whatever form it was.

So was what CBR and his wife saw an actual flesh and blood creature or was what they saw some kinda of ghost/demon/whatever.

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Yes. And its not what most think.

Multiple dimensions exist.

Things outside the normal human visual spectra exist.

I didnt believe it at first.

At first.

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Nope. There would be plenty of carcasses if they existed.

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I saw this movie. Bigfoot was hunted down and killed because he carried a world ending plague.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZ4WtzFgHc

But there is one, I saw him in bright light, at maybe 8-10 foot distance. He's not an ape, he looks a lot like that gigantor wrestler in The Longest Yard.

He's not human either, no human moves that quickly. It's impossible.

He's incredibly dark and frankly frightening.