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Posted: 1/24/2023 1:30:44 PM EDT
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Time to ramp up the Forever Wars again. I'm sure Soros and the WEF are extremely pleased.
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This is nuts. Does he WANT a full on war? Ukraine is NOT worth ending all of global civilization over, no matter how many here personally want to watch it all burn.
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I thought drones were making tanks obsolete?
Maybe that’s why he’s trying to get rid of them. |
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Good. At least Biden and I agree on something.
My only complaint is what the fuck took so long |
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Fuck it, send them all. Along with any and all munitions we have. We need to secure the Ukraines border now!!!
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Whichever member that said this is a plot to disarm America’s military was spot on.
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Who's going to crew them?
Seems a little more complicated than jumping into a Hilux. |
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Not very complicated at all actually. I was on the M1A2 and there’s a reason they call tankers DAT “dumbass tankers”. Idiots can figure them out.
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What we NEED to do is to...
1) get our own economic house in order. This shit is not sustainable. 2) take immediate and drastic steps to up our ability to produce military hardware. According to a report I saw the other day we normally produce a bit under 100,000 155mm artillery shells every year. We can accelerate production, perhaps with risks to worker safety and perhaps with quality control issues to a bit over 200,000 shells per year... and we have already shipped 1,000,000 to Ukraine. We can't produce enough missiles. We can't, for some reason, build ships at nearly the pace the Navy is already trying to build ships. We are going to get into a real war soon and we won't have the economic strength or the production capacity to fight it. The only thing we have going for us right now is that most other countries are pretty fucked up too right now. But relying on your potential opponents being stupid is not a winning strategy. |
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And I am sure they will be working hard to replace those tanks and munitions from America's arsenal, right???
Oh, and let's give the Russkies and Chicoms some more Intel on US weapon systems too. |
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Quoted: This is nuts. Does he WANT a full on war? Ukraine is NOT worth ending all of global civilization over, no matter how many here personally want to watch it all burn. View Quote Giving in to nuke blackmail will ensure a future of nuclear proliferation and make nuclear war more likely. |
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Gotta Field Test you upgrades and alternate constructions somehow.
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I had a remote control abrams when I was a kid. Man I loved that thing.
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The only thing I don't like about it is that they aren't going to be trained in how to use them properly.
A tank alone is worthless, it needs other tanks or crunchies. Russia found out the hard way. I know the Ukes are sending people to the states to train in other weapons systems, so it may not be too far fetched that they are going to send tank units as well. |
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Will these be current tanks or stripped down Saudi-grade tanks?
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At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised is Zalensky asked for us to give him a carrier battle group complete with jets and munitions. The sad part of that is that Biden and the WEF would most likely give it.
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I get such a kick out of arf sometimes.
If this conflict happened under president desantis and he decided to send in boots on the ground peacekeepers arf would be all rah rah fuck putin... Arf just has to be contrarian to whatever democrats like. I am philosophically anti war and even somewhat of an isolationist. As such I see the moral imperative in aiding a country in defending it's borders. I generally don't think we should send americans to do that but I actually agree with material support and military hardware is one of the few spending items I am ok with the federal government spending tax revenue on. I've said before keep all the tanks and planes and shit, keep developing the latest and greatest tech for them but bring all our boys home. |
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Fuck it. Give them some F-35s as well. What are we going to be left with, a bunch of soldiers with stress cards?
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Don't we have a shitload of 105 armed m1s sitting in the desert somewhere? Those things should be perfect for that.
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If I was a foreign leader and wanted to destroy America, I would install FJB as POTUS and let him "fuck things up".
ROCK6 |
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Quoted: This is nuts. Does he WANT a full on war? Ukraine is NOT worth ending all of global civilization over, no matter how many here personally want to watch it all burn. View Quote Russia is desperate and may resort to nukes if they cannot win. If they invade Poland after securing Ukraine, it's WWIII. |
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He's probably saying that to convince Germany it's ok to give Poland the go ahead on the Leopards. Then see how it plays out.
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Quoted: The speculation is Ukraine is just the beginning. Poland is next, and that means NATO. Russia is desperate and may resort to nukes if they cannot win. If they invade Poland after securing Ukraine, it's WWIII. View Quote at the rate russia is going if they secure ukraine what is left of their military will be a burnt out husk and if they tried to invade poland anytime soon they would be annihilated. |
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I’m just guessing these are the standard export model M1’s, and in that case, whatever… Our military isn’t going to use them.
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Better to send them to Poland and backfill the Leopards they are sending to simplify logistics.
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