Did we do this one yet? This is the reason behind Armslist charging a monthly fee for a membership.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.postcrescent.com/amp/3622221001

"The estate of Sara Schmidt, who was shot and killed by her husband in 2018, has filed a lawsuit against Armslist, claiming "reckless and unlawful business practices" by the online firearms marketplace allowed her estranged husband to illegally obtain the gun he used to kill her.

Schmidt, a 40-year-old from Harrison, near Appleton, was killed by her husband, Robert Schmidt, on Jan. 9, 2018, after she brought her three children to his parent's home, where he was staying at the time. He shot her as she sat in her vehicle in the driveway, then retreated to the backyard, where he took his own life.

The lawsuit was filed last week in federal court in Green Bay by Sara Schmidt's father, Richard Webber, who is the administrator of Schmidt's estate. The estate is represented by Milwaukee's Cannon & Dunphy, New York law firm Blank Rome and Brady Legal, lawyers who work with Brady United, formerly known as the Brady Center for the Prevention of Gun Violence.

The lawsuit claims Armslist allowed Robert Schmidt — who had been told by a judge he wasn't allowed to have a gun because of an ongoing domestic violence case involving Sara Schmidt — because of his history of domestic violence against Sara Schmidt — to obtain the handgun he used to kill her and take his own life."




I found this interesting from an older article...

"Sara Schmidt, 40, was shot and killed by her husband, Robert Schmidt, 49, outside a Harrison residence. The shooting happened a few days after Robert Schmidt got out of jail on a $10,000 cash bond on charges that he viciously attacked and sexually assaulted his wife on Dec. 31. She filed for divorce on Jan. 5, the same day Robert Schmidt was released from jail."


This sounds to me like a failed jail system. The family should be suing the damn county if they want money. "Ohh you got $10k, you pass go"  fuck domestic abusers.  


I remember the shooting as it was very close to my home, also my step dad also knew the shooter.

I had no idea that the victims family were the ones suing Armslist though.  That caught me by surprise.

This is the same bullshit that Remington had to go through (and still is) after Sandy Hook.

Fuck Cucklist.

Now why do we hate armslist? Buy, sell, trade guns without the hassle of gun shows... what am i missing here?

Armslist didn't allow anything. They didn't make the guy buy a gun.

I hate the scammer aspect of Armslist.

Scammer aspect? Are you kidding me??? How do you get scammed in a F2F deal?

Ive sold and bought plenty on armslist.  Easier than having to ship to a FFL for guns. Meet in the grocery parking lot, heres your gun, take my cash. Where is the scam? Unless youre old and retarded you should never get scammed on armslist.  

Well now theres a monthly fee... that should help fight scammers... right?

Or fuck selling privately online for free because i get scammed everytime!!

Pathetic.

Recently they changed their model so that you have to pay to get the sellers contact info to respond to an add.
Sellers are throttled to 3 adds at once, many features are now behind a pay wall.

Charging sellers to sell makes sense, craigslist did and it cleaned things up. Charging people to communicate with a seller is silly.

Thats why I hate armslist. But I understand that its demise will affect 2A freedoms.

The scammers are annoying but not Armslist fault. They are easy enough to filter out .
Cant get scammed selling FTF in a PD parking lot to a CCW holder cash only

Fuck Cannon and Dunphy. They are local to SE WI.

Hardly Armlist's fault, whether you like the site or not.

They recently changed it where you had to pay because of this lawsuit.  Sellers should just put a phone number or if youre scared a secondary email address right in the ad.

My areas armslist was great, had lots new postings and deals daily. Shitty its all going away and once its gone, its gone forever.  So anyone that says its a good thing isnt complete 2A.

As far as scammers, use your head. Scammers are not that smart and if you get scammed... well...

People in the EE get scammed.  We have a HOS, shit happens but only deal F2F and youre good to go.

Are guns bought on Armslist shipped to FFL or direct to buyer at all or just info exchange?

Face to Face. Its a local for sale board.

armslist is like craigslist for firearms. someone posts up an ad for something they have for sale and sell it privately. Up to the seller on verifying buyer isn't a prohibited person, whether thats thru an ffl, some kind of ccw/purchase permit, or just verbally.

Calm down Twinkle Toes. I despise the 100’s of scammer emails I receive every day for items I have listed on Armslist. Weeding thru those scammers on a daily basis is tiresome. JFC, try some decaf.

Seller has zero responsibility of verifying if buyer is prohibited or not. Thats why armslist is getting this bullshit lawsuit.

If youre worried about that, require a ccwp form the buyer and write a bill of sale.

Ah gotcha, i cant say i have ever been swamped with scammer emails. I had 2 ARs for sale on armslist a little over a week ago and i maybe had 6 emails on them in 2 days. Maybe scammers dont like overpriced PSAs

And i dont drink coffee without whiskey.

We can be friends.

OP you must live extremely close to me.

Welp this thread didnt go how i thought it would but at least i got a buddy





Im 2.5 miles from trigger action sports.

You can ship if you want, it's just riskier because Armslist has a high level of anonymity and no feedback or vetting. I've shipped items to buyers without any problems.

Obviously if you want to buy something particularly high dollar, you need to seek better protective measures/recourse versus how you would do a deal on the EE here.

My best deals off Armslist were local, scored a KAC SR-15 mod 1 with an ACOG for $2500, and a S&W 1006 with extras and some ammo for $900.

Google says 2.6 to there for me

Armslist is just the classified ads that used to be in newspapers

This case should take all of 5 minutes in front of a judge and be dismissed with prejudice.  Is there a process in place that allows the seller to verify whether or not the buyer is a prohibited person?  If yes then this is on the seller.  If not then this is on the dead guy.

They set bail, he posted it.
Bail can not be excessive nor punitive and is merely intended to ensure the defendants reappearance in court