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Posted: 11/29/2021 9:25:24 PM EST
I'm thinking of getting a suppressor for my DD MK18, are they worth the money and wait time?

I have a Dead Air Mask for my Volquardsen which I love, I just don't want to regret or be disappointed on a 5.56 can. I also heard that suppressors can cause reliability issues that you'll need a adjustable gas block and or a different buffer, which I really don't want to mess with.

You know the old saying... If it runs good, don't fuck with it
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:27:13 PM EST
[#1]
answers you seek will be found here


https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Silencers/20/
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:27:35 PM EST
[#2]
I have a 5.56 can.  I bought it from a guy for $300.  I would not buy a new can in 5.56 knowing that a multi-cal can will suppress equally as well and can be put on larger cals like a .300 or .308.  My next can will be a SiCo 36M

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:28:35 PM EST
[#3]
My SureFire was Worth it.  5.56 is fucking loud, decent can should bring that down to about the report of a 22 pistol.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:29:20 PM EST
[#4]
I have a significant number of silencers. I haven't had to "tune" anything. They all run great.

Yes, a 5.56 can is worth it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:30:16 PM EST
[#5]
I have two 5.56 suppressors, and one 30 cal.

Worth it?  It is to me.

If you're poor and can only afford ONE can for everything, get a multi-cal can.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:30:22 PM EST
[#6]
Have had my M4-2000 for 12 years.  When it even begins to show signs of failure I'll pick up another 5.56mm immediately, preferably a CRS.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:30:43 PM EST
[#7]
Big question that I asked myself, even after I got my first one.... 4 cans later, I don't regret it. My vote would be a Surefire SB2 for your MK18. My favorite combo is a 10.3 with full size can.

Do it!
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:31:45 PM EST
[#8]
Yes, SiCo ASR makes a 10.5" barrel not bad at all.  

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:31:56 PM EST
[#9]
I certainly hope so considering I just put a Surefire RC2 in jail yesterday . My serious answer is it depends. I would not buy a dedicated 5.56 can as my first can. Definitely start out with a .30 caliber can that is more versatile. Eventually you'll want more cans and then they start getting a bit more niche. Definitely get a .22 can with your first order. They are by far the most fun. I'd also suggest ordering a can every 1-2 months so that in a year your approvals will start rolling in on a semi consistent basis.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:32:04 PM EST
[#10]
Suppressing everything/anything is worth it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:32:11 PM EST
[#11]
I have a handful of suppressors and if I could go back in time, I'd not get the centerfire rifle cans.

-Rimfire cans are fun.
-Centerfire pistol cans that run subsonic ammo are fun.
-Centerfire rifle cans with supersonic ammo, for me, have been a waste of time & money.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:32:56 PM EST
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Have had my M4-2000 for 12 years.  When it even begins to show signs of failure I'll pick up another 5.56mm immediately.
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Been looking for an M4-2000 for a bit now. Even with AAC no longer with us,   I thought I would be able to find one. Fired a friend's, and really liked it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:32:58 PM EST
[#13]
I have a couple 30 cal and a couple 556.

I’d recommend the YHM turbo, pick your mounting system. It makes a HUGE difference. Compared to my big 556 cans it is a definite contender. Makes 556 hearing safe outdoors.

Forget the decibel chase and just grab a YHM turbo K, maybe use a shorter mount like plan b and cherry bombs. You won’t regret it.

Edit: I have an m4-2000 and 762SDN and prefer the YHM Turbo K on barrels 10.3-16inch
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:33:13 PM EST
[#14]
Yes, and shame on you for not getting one ten years ago.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:33:19 PM EST
[#15]
If you aren’t going to get a K can (short), get a .30 and use it on 5.56.

I have a Saker. It will outlast me.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:33:44 PM EST
[#16]
My can makes my 5.56 bolt gun safe to shoot without hearing protection***


***I mean 1 shot on a deer with no ear ringing afterwards.  If I'm shooting more than a few shots, I still wear hearing pro.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:35:00 PM EST
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Been looking for an M4-2000 for a bit now. Even with AAC no longer with us,   I thought I would be able to find one. Fired a friend's, and really liked it.
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The mount system is definitely dated, but it's still a badass suppressor IMO.  Wish I'd bought a Mini-4 and SD-N6 too.  

And a Ranger 3 to pin/weld onto an upper.  That was basically the m4-2k with a direct thread attachment.

A SF RC-2 would be my other choice.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:36:06 PM EST
[#18]
I have the griffin recce5.  IMO, yes, its well worth it.  Mostly for the size.  It quiets the gun down reasonably quiet, and it does so without being 12" long.  You can get quieter if you use a .30 cal or some bigass multi-cal suppressor.  The 223 ones do a good enough job in half the size.

8.5" or 10.5" barrel with a 223 suppressor on it is shorter than a 16" rifle.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:36:37 PM EST
[#19]
My specwar 556k on my mk18 is fucking amazing. It's a great combo.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:36:48 PM EST
[#20]
Sico omega 300 X2
Sico hybrid .46
Yhm resonator k
Yhm turbo 2
Yhm turbo 2 k
Four .22 cans half rated to 5.7

I would suggest a .30 cal and rimfire to get started
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:38:23 PM EST
[#21]
Get a .30 cal can, it'll work fine for 5.56 and better on 300.
My hybrid is noticably louder than my vox, but I can't tell much difference between the vox and recce 5 all on 5.56.

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:38:38 PM EST
[#22]
100% worth it. My 5.56 SBRs sound about like an unsuppressed 10/22 with my RECCE 5
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:38:53 PM EST
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I have a handful of suppressors and if I could go back in time, I'd not get the centerfire rifle cans.

-Rimfire cans are fun.
-Centerfire pistol cans that run subsonic ammo are fun.
-Centerfire rifle cans with supersonic ammo, for me, have been a waste of time & money.
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I disagree.

Especially for hunting.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:39:53 PM EST
[#24]
My Mk18 is my favorite AR to shoot suppressed. Runs great with or without a can, never had to adjust anything.

Definitely worth it IMO.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:40:01 PM EST
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I have the griffin recce5.  IMO, yes, its well worth it.  Mostly for the size.  It quiets the gun down reasonably quiet, and it does so without being 12" long.  You can get quieter if you use a .30 cal or some bigass multi-cal suppressor.  The 223 ones do a good enough job in half the size.

8.5" or 10.5" barrel with a 223 suppressor on it is shorter than a 16" rifle.
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I’ve never heard a .30 can on a 5.56/.223 be quieter than a designated 5.56/.223 can.  Most people I know that say it’s not worth suppressing a 5.56 use a .30 cal can in it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:40:11 PM EST
[#26]
5.56 will never be silent, not even quiet actually,  but 140 dba is a IMMENSELY better than 168.

If you want silent, stick with .22LR or .300blk subs in bolt guns.

If you ever have to fire sans earpro,  you'll be glad you had it even thought OSHA and arfcom will not like it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:41:21 PM EST
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The mount system is definitely dated, but it's still a badass suppressor IMO.  Wish I'd bought a Mini-4 and SD-N6 too.  

And a Ranger 3 to pin/weld onto an upper.  That was basically the m4-2k with a direct thread attachment.

A SF RC-2 would be my other choice.
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Did someone say M42K?  A bit of a heavy bitch, but I really dig her.

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:42:51 PM EST
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5.56 will never be silent, not even quiet actually,  but 140 dba is a IMMENSELY better than 168.

If you want silent, stick with .22LR or .300blk subs in bolt guns.

If you ever have to fire sans earpro,  you'll be glad you had it even thought OSHA and arfcom will not like it.
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Pretty much this.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:44:07 PM EST
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I have the griffin recce5.  IMO, yes, its well worth it.  Mostly for the size.  It quiets the gun down reasonably quiet, and it does so without being 12" long.  You can get quieter if you use a .30 cal or some bigass multi-cal suppressor.  The 223 ones do a good enough job in half the size.

8.5" or 10.5" barrel with a 223 suppressor on it is shorter than a 16" rifle.
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Depending on which can you go with. I have a Sig can pinned and welded to a 10.5" so it's over 16".
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:44:39 PM EST
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Forgot pic

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:45:29 PM EST
[#31]
suppress all things!
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:45:30 PM EST
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I’ve never heard a .30 can on a 5.56/.223 be quieter than a designated 5.56/.223 can.  Most people I know that say it’s not worth suppressing a 5.56 use a .30 cal can in it.
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I've done the pepsi challenge.  Griffin optimus with the OG style baffles in the long configuration is quieter on a 223 than a recce5.  I don't own a sound meter to quantify it.  I'm using the ol' MK1 ears.
I just ordered the new optimus baffle upgrade.  So in theory, that difference will be even greater.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:46:54 PM EST
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Did someone say M42K?  A bit of a heavy bitch, but I really dig her.

https://i.imgur.com/iya9vLi.jpg?1
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I said M42K!

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Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:48:27 PM EST
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I don’t shoot unsuppressed anymore.  The more serious the gun the smaller the can I’d recommend, but still a can

The people saying you need to do a bunch of stuff to tune your gun also colorfill their lowers together at the gay bar.  Food for thought

H-ish buffer, anti gas CH (read: any modern one) and you gucci
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:48:37 PM EST
[#35]
Not Hollywood movie quite but still very worth it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:49:25 PM EST
[#36]
I would almost always rather shoot a shorter,lighter gun and I wear hearing protection with everything except suppressed .22 anyway. If I had to hop through any hoops to have suppressors I probably wouldn’t bother.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:49:47 PM EST
[#37]
If it weren't for the fact that I need to beg the government for permission and pay a tax, I would get a few.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:50:24 PM EST
[#38]
Work gun... 12.5 Centurion Arms with Surefire RC2

Valuable for several reasons such as differentiating good guy/bad guy fire, maintaining comms and avoiding permanent damage

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Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:51:03 PM EST
[#39]
My 10.5'' LMT sounds great with a Surefire SOCOM on it

Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:52:01 PM EST
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I would almost always rather shoot a shorter,lighter gun and I wear hearing protection with everything except suppressed .22 anyway. If I had to hop through any hoops to have suppressors I probably wouldn't bother.
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What are the laws over there regarding suppressors?

I'm sure you've posted it before, but I'd appreciate if you did again.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:52:37 PM EST
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Did someone say M42K?  A bit of a heavy bitch, but I really dig her.

https://i.imgur.com/iya9vLi.jpg?1
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Love mine. I've beat the absolute hell out of it for the last 15 years, both semi and full auto and its no worse for wear. Lots of people hate the 51 tooth mount, but I've had no issues on multiple rifles.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:54:13 PM EST
[#42]
I think they're worth it.  I've got multiple 5.56 cans.  I think I've got seven that are just 5.56.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:54:18 PM EST
[#43]
Suppress all the things.

Even a tiny K can on a SBR beats loud-mode.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:54:22 PM EST
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yhm turbo. worth it every day that ends in y and twice on sunday!Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:54:48 PM EST
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In a word: yes, especially for shorter barrels.  As others have mentioned I wouldn’t bother going for maximum db reduction since 5.56 is still not hearing comfortable.  I’ve personally been happy with my multi-cal (Griffin Optimus) on 5.56 for range and hunting use, but if you do high volume carbine fire a dedicated 5.56 or 7.62 can might be worth it.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:55:01 PM EST
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I decided to skip a dedicated 5.56 can and have a sandman in jail. I did get a 5.56 flash hider end cap though. Might quiet it a little more but I doubt I’ll be able to tell
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:55:06 PM EST
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Love mine. I've beat the absolute hell out of it for the last 15 years, both semi and full auto and its no worse for wear. Lots of people hate the 51 tooth mount, but I've had no issues on multiple rifles.
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Did someone say M42K?  A bit of a heavy bitch, but I really dig her.

https://i.imgur.com/iya9vLi.jpg?1

Love mine. I've beat the absolute hell out of it for the last 15 years, both semi and full auto and its no worse for wear. Lots of people hate the 51 tooth mount, but I've had no issues on multiple rifles.
If you ever do, I have a GHETTO fabulous solution.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:55:57 PM EST
[#48]
Suppress all the things. But, I use .30 cal cans on my 5.56. Nomad-L on a gas gun 6.5 creedmoor sounds amazing.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:55:59 PM EST
[#49]
I dont bother anymore with suppressing an AR15.
I enjoy my Savage model 10 in .223 way more with a can screwed onto it. Its stupid-accurate and hearing safe.
Link Posted: 11/29/2021 9:57:00 PM EST
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Love mine. I've beat the absolute hell out of it for the last 15 years, both semi and full auto and its no worse for wear. Lots of people hate the 51 tooth mount, but I've had no issues on multiple rifles.
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After a decade I did the file trick last weekend on 2 mounts.  Incredible difference.

My SDN-6 weighs as much as a brick but it’ll be around after my bones are dust.  Makes other cans feel like toys
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