

Posted: 11/20/2023 3:44:50 PM EST
Tell me about your experience.
My alderman is retiring and there are no serious conservatives candidates that I can see. I’m considering jumping into the race to try and prevent the seat from going to another liberal [NATO designation for a MiG-15]. However, I’m afraid of getting in too far over my head and bringing dishonor upon myself and my family name. Everybody’s gotta get in somewhere though… What are your thoughts/experiences/etc? As Arfcommers who have met me can attest, I’m far more levelheaded in real life than on the internet, and am a decent to very good communicator. If Lomshek doesn’t pop into this thread, I’ll @ him at some point, that guy is awesome. |
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Might as well collect your share of the little brown envelopes.
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You have my greatest admiration for even considering running.
The problem in US politics as I see it is that too many conservatives do not get into politics because we are always in overdrive with work, family and hobbies. I could never sit in a room while a bunch of liberals spew their crap without ripping someone a new asshole. (Ignorant, I know) Good luck bud! |
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Grammer Nazis be dammed!!
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@Lomshek
Don’t you have a guide for running for public office? I looked for it, but I think it went into the archives. Do you have any recommendations for me? |
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Embrace the axe
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I’ve always wanted to run for council and then mayor (small town 2,500) … but my aunt is the mayor and a Dem… so it would be awkward. And then family gatherings would be awkward.
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Originally Posted By JaredGrey: @Lomshek Don’t you have a guide for running for public office? I looked for it, but I think it went into the archives. Do you have any recommendations for me? View Quote @JaredGrey I'm not Lomshek, but I'll offer a few ideas. I'm a GOP county chairman and elected State Central Committee member, one of 66 elected statewide. Some basics: winning local office means raising money (your own or money from donors) and knocking doors. Nothing beats walking your district and asking for votes by knocking on doors. Signs won't do it, social media won't do it, and mailers won't do it; knocking doors will. If you're not comfortable with either of those things, you should reconsider entering the race. If your wife and family are not comfortable with those things, especially the time you'll spend knocking doors, don't do it. Get with your local Board of Elections and find out what you need to file to get on the ballot. Do what they tell you. I serve on our Board of Elections and we reject a number of filings every cycle because the candidate didn't follow the legal requirements to be placed on the ballot. Create a social media plan - Facebook (still one of the best for local campaigns), Twitter, and other social media outlets are force multipliers. You can reach a targeted audience very effectively and at relatively low cost with social media advertising. Have a marketing rep help you set this up, create your website, and guide you on how to use it well. They can also prepare a palm card or other literature piece for you to give to the people you meet knocking doors, and to leave at their doors if they are not home. Get that ready before you start knocking, obviously. Prepare a list of community events and go to all of them, or as many as you can possibly attend. Bring your palm cards and meet every eligible voter. These events are are as effective as door knocking if you "press the flesh", and save you a boatload of time going to their houses. If you are running in a partisan race, you should be able to obtain lists from your Board of Elections to help you target the right voters. Ask them about that when you file. My county has about 27,000 voters, roughly 80% GOP. I tell our candidates countywide that they should plan to hit 3,000 doors to win a partisan primary, much fewer if they are running a General election campaign against a Commie Democrat. Scale your knocking effort accordingly. That's top of head stuff - reply with questions, and I'll try to answer. |
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Originally Posted By deerranger: You have my greatest admiration for even considering running. The problem in US politics as I see it is that too many conservatives do not get into politics because we are always in overdrive with work, family and hobbies. I could never sit in a room while a bunch of liberals spew their crap without ripping someone a new asshole. (Ignorant, I know) Good luck bud! View Quote I agree. For much of my life I've sensed that conservatives are under-represented in politics because we are invariably busy with work and family. And libs are fine with playing political games, virtue signaling rather than working to achieve real world results. Also, in higher levels of US politics conservatives almost have to assume that they and their family members will be maligned, with every effort made to destroy their reputations. And that's not only such damage from their political enemies, the media also does its share. |
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Thanks to cancard for the membership.
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I'm currently serving as mayor of my city, but started out on the city council in 2011.
What size is your community? One big piece of advice: don't take anything personally. If you do, it will wear on you. Are you married? What does your SO think? She will be affected, too. Be prepared to put in a lot of hours, and get little thanks. Voters that you thought were aligned with you can turn on you quickly, over the littlest things. People are petty.. That said, it is a very fulfilling job. I'm glad every day that I can do my part to stem the tide of liberalism. It's a worthy fight Good luck! If you have any specific questions or anything feel free to DM me. |
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@boersun
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I'm in my 2nd term as councilman for a city of 3500. My wife just stepped down as mayor and is back in her council seat. We both ran and won unopposed.
You are going about it the right way. In GA you have to complete training before you actually take office...it's a good way to get your feet wet.city politics can get ugly fast. Managing the relationship between the cities and the county gets hairy at times. I've actually had threats from SO deputies. All that said, if you enjoy serving your community for little to no pay, enjoy 3d chess and dealing with absolute scumbags once in a while, it is rewarding as fuck. I've made some really good friends including a direct descendant of Doc Holiday. Been to some really awesome parties and done some really stupid shit as an elected official. Also nice to be on control of who runs the police and fire... |
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit: @JaredGrey I'm not Lomshek, but I'll offer a few ideas. I'm a GOP county chairman and elected State Central Committee member, one of 66 elected statewide. Some basics: winning local office means raising money (your own or money from donors) and knocking doors. Nothing beats walking your district and asking for votes by knocking on doors. Signs won't do it, social media won't do it, and mailers won't do it; knocking doors will. If you're not comfortable with either of those things, you should reconsider entering the race. If your wife and family are not comfortable with those things, especially the time you'll spend knocking doors, don't do it. Get with your local Board of Elections and find out what you need to file to get on the ballot. Do what they tell you. I serve on our Board of Elections and we reject a number of filings every cycle because the candidate didn't follow the legal requirements to be placed on the ballot. Create a social media plan - Facebook (still one of the best for local campaigns), Twitter, and other social media outlets are force multipliers. You can reach a targeted audience very effectively and at relatively low cost with social media advertising. Have a marketing rep help you set this up, create your website, and guide you on how to use it well. They can also prepare a palm card or other literature piece for you to give to the people you meet knocking doors, and to leave at their doors if they are not home. Get that ready before you start knocking, obviously. Prepare a list of community events and go to all of them, or as many as you can possibly attend. Bring your palm cards and meet every eligible voter. These events are are as effective as door knocking if you "press the flesh", and save you a boatload of time going to their houses. If you are running in a partisan race, you should be able to obtain lists from your Board of Elections to help you target the right voters. Ask them about that when you file. My county has about 27,000 voters, roughly 80% GOP. I tell our candidates countywide that they should plan to hit 3,000 doors to win a partisan primary, much fewer if they are running a General election campaign against a Commie Democrat. Scale your knocking effort accordingly. That's top of head stuff - reply with questions, and I'll try to answer. View Quote @NukeFromOrbit How does one find/choose a marketing rep? @boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics? |
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Originally Posted By FatSteve: @NukeFromOrbit How does one find/choose a marketing rep? @boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics? View Quote Your best bet for finding campaign help is to get involved with your county GOP. Your Chairman will certainly be in contact with campaign advisors or elected officials who have worked with them, and will have good references. In most cases, they've been working to help get candidates elected for some time. Planning commissions usually are subsidiary to councils or Boards of Commissioners, so typically have little political power and serve more of a bureaucratic role. If you want to learn politics at the local level, a role with some executive authority (Mayor, Township Trustee, County Commissioner, Councilman) will be a better option. If you really want to learn politics, run to become a precinct captain or committeeman, to serve on your county GOP Central or Executive Committee. Those are volunteer positions that will teach the mechanics of political campaigning like nothing else will. In my case, I ran for precinct committeeman in 2016, was named a Board Member of my county's Board of Elections, was elected party Chairman in 2018, and ran for and won a seat on the State Central Committee in 2022. During that time, I've worked with dozens of campaigns and have become acquainted with many state and national political figures, including President Trump, and I will represent my Congressional District as a delegate at the Republican National Convention next summer. It has been hard and rewarding work, and has allowed me to enjoy a second "career" while still running my business. |
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Originally Posted By FatSteve: @NukeFromOrbit How does one find/choose a marketing rep? @boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics? View Quote @FatSteve They are a good way to get you feet wet. A lot of those positions are appointed not elected but that depends on the locale. Anyone wanting to get into politics should begin by attending or at least viewing meetings online of whatever board they are planning to run for and probably the one above (City and county for instance) and research the issues they are dealing with so that you can speak competently. As far as a marketing rep that's hard. You have to hope that you can find someone competent who will work for free or learn it yourself. |
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Originally Posted By JaredGrey: @Lomshek Don’t you have a guide for running for public office? I looked for it, but I think it went into the archives. Do you have any recommendations for me? View Quote @JaredGrey I'll post the info here in a minute but am going to PM you my cell phone to call me tonight. |
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Nope, would have to move to a city.
Have a county comissioner but there's a long standing debate on if he actually covers where I live in the national forest or it belongs to the US Forest Service enforcement division. So nope haven't and no plans. The forest service takes care of the road good enough so I don't cause waves and don't hear from anyone. |
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I have quite a bit of experience... I was the mayor in our fictional town in 3rd grade called "Paradise City."
AMA. ![]() |
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"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - HST
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I have never run but I did manage a campaign for a friend that did.
You need to start going to every city council meeting you can and whatever workshops that you can. Start doing public records request for anything you can't find online such as budgets ect. Make sure you vote every time you can in every election. My friend got slammed when it was learned that for several years he did not vote and that he had only been to one city council meeting before he decided to run. |
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit: @JaredGrey I'm not Lomshek, but I'll offer a few ideas. I'm a GOP county chairman and elected State Central Committee member, one of 66 elected statewide. Some basics: winning local office means raising money (your own or money from donors) and knocking doors. Nothing beats walking your district and asking for votes by knocking on doors. Signs won't do it, social media won't do it, and mailers won't do it; knocking doors will. If you're not comfortable with either of those things, you should reconsider entering the race. If your wife and family are not comfortable with those things, especially the time you'll spend knocking doors, don't do it. Get with your local Board of Elections and find out what you need to file to get on the ballot. Do what they tell you. I serve on our Board of Elections and we reject a number of filings every cycle because the candidate didn't follow the legal requirements to be placed on the ballot. Create a social media plan - Facebook (still one of the best for local campaigns), Twitter, and other social media outlets are force multipliers. You can reach a targeted audience very effectively and at relatively low cost with social media advertising. Have a marketing rep help you set this up, create your website, and guide you on how to use it well. They can also prepare a palm card or other literature piece for you to give to the people you meet knocking doors, and to leave at their doors if they are not home. Get that ready before you start knocking, obviously. Prepare a list of community events and go to all of them, or as many as you can possibly attend. Bring your palm cards and meet every eligible voter. These events are are as effective as door knocking if you "press the flesh", and save you a boatload of time going to their houses. If you are running in a partisan race, you should be able to obtain lists from your Board of Elections to help you target the right voters. Ask them about that when you file. My county has about 27,000 voters, roughly 80% GOP. I tell our candidates countywide that they should plan to hit 3,000 doors to win a partisan primary, much fewer if they are running a General election campaign against a Commie Democrat. Scale your knocking effort accordingly. That's top of head stuff - reply with questions, and I'll try to answer. View Quote NukeFromOrbit is 100% correct. It sounds like he and I are in almost exactly parallel positions. I'm not the chairman of my county party but organized an activist conservative takeover and found an extremely competent guy to serve in that role while I serve as the communications director. Like nuke I'm also a state party delegate and have helped multiple people win office now and have defeated dems almost 100% in a formerly blue/purple county. My dem opponents are constantly googling me and have a web designer lefty that I stomped in this year's school board election who is e-stalking me so gotta be careful what I say but it's about time to put a how to get elected post up. |
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Originally Posted By stpeteaustin: I have never run but I did manage a campaign for a friend that did. You need to start going to every city council meeting you can and whatever workshops that you can. Start doing public records request for anything you can't find online such as budgets ect. Make sure you vote every time you can in every election. My friend got slammed when it was learned that for several years he did not vote and that he had only been to one city council meeting before he decided to run. View Quote All of this! |
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I was a councilman for 10 years. Was president of council my last two terms.
My wife was a councilwoman and then the mayor. I just got my shit straight with the board of elections, knocked on some doors, got my signatures and won. Ran unopposed as an incumbent. It’s mostly a thankless job, hours devoted to making your city/town/village run better. Days spent on audits, working with the treasurer and city legal team. Employees. Constantly dealing with constituent issues. I was on council during a federal court battle (eminent domain) over 1 foot of curb lawn. That was a doozy. But I got a lot of ordinances repealed or fixed and medt the village a better, more efficient place. I’d do it again. Its part of a man’s civic duty to lead his government at least once in his life. |
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I will be sworn in at the December meeting and my term starts January 2nd. It’s a pretty small town, but we have issues with drugs and derelict properties. I’m hoping to reduce some of that.
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Life’s tough. Tougher when you’re stupid.
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Questions to learn the answer to as a first step.
How is the seat filled in this case? Is it an actual special election or do the remaining board members select the replacement? In many non-partisan seats (school & city) the remaining members advertise for applications then select a replacement to complete the unexpired term. The selected member will run in the next regular election for that seat, or sometimes, in the next regular election for the final year or two of that seat's term. If it's a selection by the board then you need to learn everything you can about the position and issues, polish up your resume and figure out how to make your name known without appearing to be a phony ingratiating yourself. Having a known reputation in town helps. You don't have to be a man about town but ideally don't leave them all saying "who?" If you don't have any name recognition then you need to be a rock star of competence and calm that blows their socks off. If you're up for a standard election... Find out who the electors are? Is this an at large position that the entire city votes for or are you representing your district or ward? That tells you who to target. What is the political demographic of your electorate? Messaging in a 75% Republican district will be very different than messaging in a 55% or 40% Republican district. Know your audience. Next you need to get the list of people who voted in at least the last election for that position with the following data. Name, Party, Address, contact info, method of voting (early or day of). That's provided by the county clerk. That data tells you who to target when and how. You need to hit the early voters before mail in ballots hit their mailboxes. Before you start visiting voters you had better know a wide range of subjects because everyone will ask about whatever they care about. The obvious things for a city are sales taxes, property taxes, roads, water, sewer and whatever hot button issues the city is dealing with like homeless or crime or bringing in employers. If you have time and maybe have the help of a competent republican party (or the funds) you can look at prior big elections like presidential vs your position and find the people who only vote in the big elections. With the right hook or motivation and outreach you can probably get some of them to turn out too but that requires the right situation and some money spent. This would only be worth it if you are looking at a tight race and are willing to spend the money or time for a few more percent. That brings up money. Size of market will determine your outlay. A small city like mine at 20,000 residents and an at large election means probably $5000 to give you a number. Yard signs are $5-$7 each and you'll need a few hundred at least. A high quality mailer will require you to spend $1.20 - $1.50 per person. In a perfect world you would send a mailer to land in early voter's mailboxes the day before or day of (if you're feeling frisky) same day that mail in ballots land in mailboxes. You would have a second mailer land in mailboxes the day before the general. On top of that you need to knock on every door of a known good voter or at least have trusted people knock with you across the street from you. Ideal door knocking is done in teams of two and even better a man and woman dressed business casual. You need to have a handout to give people that has a family friendly picture of you with bullet points of what you want to do/care about and your bullet point bio. If you have people knocking for you they need to be able to answer competently like you would and be ready to offer your phone number to anyone who wants to talk to you directly. "Why are you here instead of him?" "He's across the street/around the block/in another neighborhood but would be happy to speak with you if you'd like me to have him come by or I can give you his cell phone number." Social media and messaging is a whole 'nother subject but that's for another day. |
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I’d have to go for a county position like Board of Supervisors or Sheriff or something since I live out of town. We did have a leftist run for our local rural school board and I was drafted to run against her. I did and won in May.
What kills me is that otherwise intelligent “conservatives” completely lose their minds when it comes to the ability to tax people. We have that ability through bonds and it ended up being a 4-1 vote. The composition of the board is 4 “conservatives” (including me) and one middle roader. Everyone but me voted for a $7.2M bond initiative. I called a special meeting and drug them all back in at 7:30am one morning to discuss this further. No one changed their minds and I likely pissed them off but I won a TON of points with the community over it. The best part was that I got the board to admit, in a public meeting, that the bond is going to fail next spring. At the same time, the construction company and architect are going to be asking us for more money to “continue their work”. During the inevitable discussion we’ll have on this, I’ll be bringing up the other board member’s admittance that they KNOW the bond is going to fail and I’ll be urging a “no” vote on more money there. I’m certain it’ll be another 4-1 vote. Then, I can let it be known in the community during re-election time that the board threw away money that they knew was going to go nowhere and that’ll mean I can get a couple of incumbents in trouble with voters, who already have a dubious relationship with the school. And that’s politics in a nutshell… |
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Wow!
Arf has some quality politically knowledgeable people in this thread! Who knew there were so many arf'ers who have stepped up and served their communities all across the nation. Gentlemen I raise a toast to all of you! Let's see if we can get Jared to join the ranks of electeds! ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er: I’d have to go for a county position like Board of Supervisors or Sheriff or something since I live out of town. We did have a leftist run for our local rural school board and I was drafted to run against her. I did and won in May. What kills me is that otherwise intelligent “conservatives” completely lose their minds when it comes to the ability to tax people. We have that ability through bonds and it ended up being a 4-1 vote. The composition of the board is 4 “conservatives” (including me) and one middle roader. Everyone but me voted for a $7.2M bond initiative. I called a special meeting and drug them all back in at 7:30am one morning to discuss this further. No one changed their minds and I likely pissed them off but I won a TON of points with the community over it. The best part was that I got the board to admit, in a public meeting, that the bond is going to fail next spring. At the same time, the construction company and architect are going to be asking us for more money to “continue their work”. During the inevitable discussion we’ll have on this, I’ll be bringing up the other board member’s admittance that they KNOW the bond is going to fail and I’ll be urging a “no” vote on more money there. I’m certain it’ll be another 4-1 vote. Then, I can let it be known in the community during re-election time that the board threw away money that they knew was going to go nowhere and that’ll mean I can get a couple of incumbents in trouble with voters, who already have a dubious relationship with the school. And that’s politics in a nutshell… View Quote Way to go Eagle! I wish more people saw the importance of being the voice in the wilderness even when they are the minority. Speaking to your conscience and voting your principles against a majority when you know you will lose inspires other people. Too many people buckle and vote with the majority just to not stand alone. That guarantees they are seen as just more of the same. Kudos to you for standing strong. |
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I'm thinking of running for congress...
My platform will be to split Coconino county into a separate county solely on the basis that Flagstaff does not represent rural land owners correctly. |
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Originally Posted By FatSteve: @NukeFromOrbit How does one find/choose a marketing rep? @boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics? View Quote |
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Depending on the area, it’s not difficult. I was about to jump in for a city council seat in 2020 but ended up supporting (campaign co-managing basically) a guy who had a better shot. Then in 2022 we flipped the city council entirely (which hadn’t been done in 20+ years).
I’ve been heavily involved in local politics since 2019 and I have a job and family I support on one income. If a boob like me can make it happen so can you. A good friend (conservative/libertarian) also ran in a neighboring county and won. Local politics is the single most important level of politics. Your city council race is more important than the presidential election. Do it. Jump in and don’t look back. |
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I've been elected to public office of some type almost every year for 30 years. It's not something you want to do if you have a young family, but if you're single or married with no kids, or have an empty nest, sure, go for it.
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I served 6 years as a "Selectman" for my town, last two and a half as chairman of the board. Town of ~2000 people.
Some of the time was very enjoyable and I learned a lot about small town politics. I was the main target of a local paper owned and operated by a guy that loved to fixate on individuals and just write questions so one couldn't formally accuse him of libel. I'm not sure why he fixated on me specifically other than I refused to let him bully people and would call him out publicly anytime he tried. My name still appears in his paper on occasion for no real reason years later. My last year and a half was spent dealing with a half turd Police Chief that I actually interviewed before hiring and a town manager that refused to deal with his BS. Both of them eventually resigned under pressure and I chose not to run again after that. The job had a physical toll on me and impacted my home life significantly. Now that I've been out of the picture for a few years I have kind of felt the urge to get back involved and have been solicited many many times to run again. My Wife would be pissed if she thought I was going to do it again. Overall I would recommend anyone interested in running for local office to get more involved and see what it actually entails. Start attending Council meetings and just watch. I had never been to local town meetings prior to running for office and had no real idea what took place. I was the "kid" on our board of 5, probably 30 years younger than most.( I think I was 40 when elected) It didn't take long for the board to look to me when difficult questions came up as I had different view on "we've always done it this way" quite often. The first time I said "Just because we've done something wrong for 20 years doesn't mean we should keep doing it that way" raised a few eyebrows I think. 3 of the senior members I first served with have passed on now, and I look back fondly to the time I worked with them. OP if you think its something you want to do then go for it. I never pictured myself running for any office in my younger years. Now I have been considering a run for State representative or Senate when I get closer to retirement. |
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