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Posted: 11/20/2023 3:44:50 PM EST
Tell me about your experience.

My alderman is retiring and there are no serious conservatives candidates that I can see. I’m considering jumping into the race to try and prevent the seat from going to another liberal [NATO designation for a MiG-15]. However, I’m afraid of getting in too far over my head and bringing dishonor upon myself and my family name. Everybody’s gotta get in somewhere though…

What are your thoughts/experiences/etc? As Arfcommers who have met me can attest, I’m far more levelheaded in real life than on the internet, and am a decent to very good communicator.

If Lomshek doesn’t pop into this thread, I’ll @ him at some point, that guy is awesome.
PWS
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:49:43 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:14:18 PM EST
[#2]
You have my greatest admiration for even considering running.
The problem in US politics as I see it is that too many conservatives do not get into politics because we are always in overdrive with work, family and hobbies.
I could never sit in a room while a bunch of liberals spew their crap without ripping someone a new asshole. (Ignorant,  I know)
Good luck bud!
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:52:48 PM EST
[#3]
@Lomshek

Don’t you have a guide for running for public office? I looked for it, but I think it went into the archives.

Do you have any recommendations for me?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:58:53 PM EST
[#4]
I’ve always wanted to run for council and then mayor (small town 2,500) … but my aunt is the mayor and a Dem… so it would be awkward.  And then family gatherings would be awkward.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 6:15:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JaredGrey:
@Lomshek

Don’t you have a guide for running for public office? I looked for it, but I think it went into the archives.

Do you have any recommendations for me?
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@JaredGrey

I'm not Lomshek, but I'll offer a few ideas. I'm a GOP county chairman and elected State Central Committee member, one of 66 elected statewide.

Some basics: winning local office means raising money (your own or money from donors) and knocking doors. Nothing beats walking your district and asking for votes by knocking on doors. Signs won't do it, social media won't do it, and mailers won't do it; knocking doors will. If you're not comfortable with either of those things, you should reconsider entering the race. If your wife and family are not comfortable with those things, especially the time you'll spend knocking doors, don't do it.

Get with your local Board of Elections and find out what you need to file to get on the ballot. Do what they tell you. I serve on our Board of Elections and we reject a number of filings every cycle because the candidate didn't follow the legal requirements to be placed on the ballot.

Create a social media plan - Facebook (still one of the best for local campaigns), Twitter, and other social media outlets are force multipliers. You can reach a targeted audience very effectively and at relatively low cost with social media advertising. Have a marketing rep help you set this up, create your website, and guide you on how to use it well. They can also prepare a palm card or other literature piece for you to give to the people you meet knocking doors, and to leave at their doors if they are not home. Get that ready before you start knocking, obviously.

Prepare a list of community events and go to all of them, or as many as you can possibly attend. Bring your palm cards and meet every eligible voter. These events are are as effective as door knocking if you "press the flesh", and save you a boatload of time going to their houses.

If you are running in a partisan race, you should be able to obtain lists from your Board of Elections to help you target the right voters. Ask them about that when you file.

My county has about 27,000 voters, roughly 80% GOP. I tell our candidates countywide that they should plan to hit 3,000 doors to win a partisan primary, much fewer if they are running a General election campaign against a Commie Democrat. Scale your knocking effort accordingly.

That's top of head stuff - reply with questions, and I'll try to answer.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 7:23:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By deerranger:
You have my greatest admiration for even considering running.
The problem in US politics as I see it is that too many conservatives do not get into politics because we are always in overdrive with work, family and hobbies.
I could never sit in a room while a bunch of liberals spew their crap without ripping someone a new asshole. (Ignorant,  I know)
Good luck bud!
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I agree. For much of my life I've sensed that conservatives are under-represented in politics because we are invariably busy with work and family. And libs are fine with playing political games, virtue signaling rather than working to achieve real world results.

Also, in higher levels of US politics conservatives almost have to assume that they and their family members will be maligned, with every effort made to destroy their reputations. And that's not only such damage from their political enemies, the media also does its share.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 7:30:18 PM EST
[#7]
I'm currently serving as mayor of my city, but started out on the city council in 2011.

What size is your community?

One big piece of advice: don't take anything personally. If you do, it will wear on you. Are you married? What does your SO think? She will be affected, too.

Be prepared to put in a lot of hours, and get little thanks. Voters that you thought were aligned with you can turn on you quickly, over the littlest things. People are petty..

That said, it is a very fulfilling job. I'm glad every day that I can do my part to stem the tide of liberalism. It's a worthy fight

Good luck! If you have any specific questions or anything feel free to DM me.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 7:39:24 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:14:13 PM EST
[#9]
I'm in my 2nd term as councilman for a city of 3500. My wife just stepped down as mayor and is back in her council seat. We both ran and won unopposed.  
You are going about it the right way. In GA you have to complete training before you actually take office...it's a good way to get your feet wet.city politics can get ugly fast. Managing the relationship between the cities and the county gets hairy at times. I've actually had threats from SO deputies.
All that said, if you enjoy serving your community for little to no pay, enjoy 3d chess and dealing with absolute scumbags once in a while, it is rewarding as fuck.
I've made some really good friends including a direct descendant of Doc Holiday. Been to some really awesome parties and done some really stupid shit as an elected official. Also nice to be on control of who runs the police and fire...
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 8:33:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NukeFromOrbit:


@JaredGrey

I'm not Lomshek, but I'll offer a few ideas. I'm a GOP county chairman and elected State Central Committee member, one of 66 elected statewide.

Some basics: winning local office means raising money (your own or money from donors) and knocking doors. Nothing beats walking your district and asking for votes by knocking on doors. Signs won't do it, social media won't do it, and mailers won't do it; knocking doors will. If you're not comfortable with either of those things, you should reconsider entering the race. If your wife and family are not comfortable with those things, especially the time you'll spend knocking doors, don't do it.

Get with your local Board of Elections and find out what you need to file to get on the ballot. Do what they tell you. I serve on our Board of Elections and we reject a number of filings every cycle because the candidate didn't follow the legal requirements to be placed on the ballot.

Create a social media plan - Facebook (still one of the best for local campaigns), Twitter, and other social media outlets are force multipliers. You can reach a targeted audience very effectively and at relatively low cost with social media advertising. Have a marketing rep help you set this up, create your website, and guide you on how to use it well. They can also prepare a palm card or other literature piece for you to give to the people you meet knocking doors, and to leave at their doors if they are not home. Get that ready before you start knocking, obviously.

Prepare a list of community events and go to all of them, or as many as you can possibly attend. Bring your palm cards and meet every eligible voter. These events are are as effective as door knocking if you "press the flesh", and save you a boatload of time going to their houses.

If you are running in a partisan race, you should be able to obtain lists from your Board of Elections to help you target the right voters. Ask them about that when you file.

My county has about 27,000 voters, roughly 80% GOP. I tell our candidates countywide that they should plan to hit 3,000 doors to win a partisan primary, much fewer if they are running a General election campaign against a Commie Democrat. Scale your knocking effort accordingly.

That's top of head stuff - reply with questions, and I'll try to answer.

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@NukeFromOrbit

How does one find/choose a marketing rep?

@boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit

If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics?


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:53:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FatSteve:


@NukeFromOrbit

How does one find/choose a marketing rep?

@boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit

If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics?


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Your best bet for finding campaign help is to get involved with your county GOP. Your Chairman will certainly be in contact with campaign advisors or elected officials who have worked with them, and will have good references. In most cases, they've been working to help get candidates elected for some time.

Planning commissions usually are subsidiary to councils or Boards of Commissioners, so typically have little political power and serve more of a bureaucratic role. If you want to learn politics at the local level, a role with some executive authority (Mayor, Township Trustee, County Commissioner, Councilman) will be a better option.

If you really want to learn politics, run to become a precinct captain or committeeman, to serve on your county GOP Central or Executive Committee. Those are volunteer positions that will teach the mechanics of political campaigning like nothing else will. In my case, I ran for precinct committeeman in 2016, was named a Board Member of my county's Board of Elections, was elected party Chairman in 2018, and ran for and won a seat on the State Central Committee in 2022. During that time, I've worked with dozens of campaigns and have become acquainted with many state and national political figures, including President Trump, and I will represent my Congressional District as a delegate at the Republican National Convention next summer. It has been hard and rewarding work, and has allowed me to enjoy a second "career" while still running my business.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:54:24 PM EST
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Nope, would have to move to a city.

Have a county comissioner but there's a long standing debate on if he actually covers where I live in the national forest or it belongs to the US Forest Service enforcement division. So nope haven't and no plans. The forest service takes care of the road good enough so I don't cause waves and don't hear from anyone.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:07:32 PM EST
[#15]
I have quite a bit of experience...  I was the mayor in our fictional town in 3rd grade called "Paradise City."

AMA.

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:08:10 PM EST
[#16]
I have never run but I did manage a campaign for a friend that did.  


You need to start going to every city council meeting you can and whatever workshops that you can.  

Start doing public records request for anything you can't find online such as budgets ect.

Make sure you vote every time you can in every election.  

My friend got slammed when it was learned that for several years he did not vote and that he had only been to one city council meeting before he decided to run.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:19:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:20:39 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:21:35 PM EST
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I was a councilman for 10 years.  Was president of council my last two terms.

My wife was a councilwoman and then the mayor.

I just got my shit straight with the board of elections, knocked on some doors, got my signatures and won.  Ran unopposed as an incumbent.

It’s mostly a thankless job, hours devoted to making your city/town/village run better.  Days spent on audits, working with the treasurer and city legal team.  Employees.  Constantly dealing with constituent issues.

I was on council during a federal court battle (eminent domain) over 1 foot of curb lawn.  That was a doozy.

But I got a lot of ordinances repealed or fixed and medt the village a better, more efficient place.

I’d do it again.  Its part of a man’s civic duty to lead his government at least once in his life.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:31:57 PM EST
[#20]
I will be sworn in at the December meeting and my term starts January 2nd. It’s a pretty small town, but we have issues with drugs and derelict properties. I’m hoping to reduce some of that.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:41:02 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:41:27 AM EST
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I’d have to go for a county position like Board of Supervisors or Sheriff or something since I live out of town. We did have a leftist run for our local rural school board and I was drafted to run against her. I did and won in May.

What kills me is that otherwise intelligent “conservatives” completely lose their minds when it comes to the ability to tax people. We have that ability through bonds and it ended up being a 4-1 vote. The composition of the board is 4 “conservatives” (including me) and one middle roader. Everyone but me voted for a $7.2M bond initiative. I called a special meeting and drug them all back in at 7:30am one morning to discuss this further. No one changed their minds and I likely pissed them off but I won a TON of points with the community over it.

The best part was that I got the board to admit, in a public meeting, that the bond is going to fail next spring. At the same time, the construction company and architect are going to be asking us for more money to “continue their work”. During the inevitable discussion we’ll have on this, I’ll be bringing up the other board member’s admittance that they KNOW the bond is going to fail and I’ll be urging a “no” vote on more money there. I’m certain it’ll be another 4-1 vote.  

Then, I can let  it be known in the community during re-election time that the board threw away money that they knew was going to go nowhere and that’ll mean I can get a couple of incumbents in trouble with voters, who already have a dubious relationship with the school.

And that’s politics in a nutshell…
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:48:19 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:53:34 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/21/2023 1:18:31 AM EST
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I'm thinking of running for congress...
My platform will be to split Coconino county into a separate county solely on the basis that Flagstaff does not represent rural land owners correctly.

Link Posted: 11/21/2023 6:13:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FatSteve:


@NukeFromOrbit

How does one find/choose a marketing rep?

@boersun or @Lomshek or NukeFromOrbit

If your locale has elected positions such as Planning and Zoning officials, are these a good way to learn local politics?


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As Lomshek said, attending meetings regularly is key. I'll type a bit more once I get to a computer, but most of the time at the city level - the only elected positions will be council and mayor.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 6:40:09 AM EST
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Depending on the area, it’s not difficult. I was about to jump in for a city council seat in 2020 but ended up supporting (campaign co-managing basically) a guy who had a better shot. Then in 2022 we flipped the city council entirely (which hadn’t been done in 20+ years).

I’ve been heavily involved in local politics since 2019 and I have a job and family I support on one income. If a boob like me can make it happen so can you.

A good friend (conservative/libertarian) also ran in a neighboring county and won. Local politics is the single most important level of politics. Your city council race is more important than the presidential election.

Do it. Jump in and don’t look back.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 6:51:27 AM EST
[#28]
I've been elected to public office of some type almost every year for 30 years. It's not something you want to do if you have a young family, but if you're single or married with no kids, or have an empty nest, sure, go for it.

Any more questions?
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 7:15:02 AM EST
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I served 6 years as a "Selectman" for my town, last two and a half as chairman of the board. Town of ~2000 people.

Some of the time was very enjoyable and I learned a lot about small town politics.

I was the main target of a local paper owned and operated by a guy that loved to fixate on individuals and just write questions so one couldn't formally accuse him of libel.  I'm not sure why he fixated on me specifically other than I refused to let him bully people and would call him out publicly anytime he tried.  My name still appears in his paper on occasion for no real reason years later.

My last year and a half was spent dealing with a half turd Police Chief that I actually interviewed before hiring and a town manager that refused to deal with his BS.

Both of them eventually resigned under pressure and I chose not to run again after that.  The job had a physical toll on me and impacted my home life significantly.

Now that I've been out of the picture for a few years I have kind of felt the urge to get back involved and have been solicited many many times to run again.  My Wife would be pissed if she thought I was going to do it again.

Overall I would recommend anyone interested in running for local office to get more involved and see what it actually entails.   Start attending Council meetings and just watch.  

I had never been to local town meetings prior to running for office and had no real idea what took place.  I was the "kid" on our board of 5, probably 30 years younger than most.( I think I was 40 when elected)   It didn't take long for the board to look to me when difficult questions came up as I had different  view on "we've always done it this way" quite often.  The first time I said "Just because we've done something wrong for 20 years doesn't mean we should keep doing it that way" raised a few eyebrows I think.  3 of the senior members I first served with have passed on now, and I look back fondly to the time I worked with them.

OP if you think its something you want to do then go for it.  I never pictured myself running for any office in my younger years.  Now I have been considering a run for State representative or Senate when I get closer to retirement.

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