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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:29:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Shipping is going to fuck you over so bad, it's even more expensive than the tanks themselves. This is one of the things Europeans have over us, they can get way cheaper milsurp armor from the ex-commie states.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:25:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First person I though of. I always thought the Ferret was cool as hell. IIRC this one sold for like $27k https://i.imgur.com/JptmA80l.jpg I want. At least with that the value would hold or appreciate unlike a normal vehicle. I wonder if it could be street legal? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want. At least with that the value would hold or appreciate unlike a normal vehicle. I wonder if it could be street legal? I've seen them in a bunch of car restoration shows, so yeah. Jay Leno also has one.  1959 Ferret Armoured Scout Car Mk2 - Jay Leno's Garage |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry. I had not noticed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No one has tags visible anymore  Sorry. I had not noticed. No worries 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:11:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First person I though of. I always thought the Ferret was cool as hell. IIRC this one sold for like $27k https://i.imgur.com/JptmA80l.jpg Now that looks like it would be fun to hunt feral hogs out of! 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like a business opportunity. Basically like a timeshare, where maybe 10 people get to own part of the tank, and get together on weekends to drive it around. You buy a share, then pay ongoing fees to maintain it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like a business opportunity. Basically like a timeshare, where maybe 10 people get to own part of the tank, and get together on weekends to drive it around. You buy a share, then pay ongoing fees to maintain it. Not like a timeshare...like a Tankshare(tm). Quoted: Would it be kept in Virginia or North Dakota? Does the gun work or can it be made to work? Is ammunition available or can it be made? I have money but I am not very mechanically adept. Any SME's available to keep it running? The idea sounds good but there are questions to be answered. Any reason you said Virginia or North Dakota instead of Virginia or NY? Because... Quoted: Huh. Surprisingly inexpensive tanks. ...if @ACitizenNotASubject is interested in ND, you guys might need to partner up. Of course...ND is close to my family home in Montana, so... Quoted: Do I get any sort of free gift for attending this Tank Timeshare seminar? Tankshare. Not Timeshare. Tankshare. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It needs to have a working main gun or it sucks. Just my dumb opinion. I had thought about how cool it would be to own a Sherman, because I liked those tanks as a kid. What if I told you...I've devised a way to get 25mm bushcannon level kinetic energy out of a .50cal? Then it is not NFA, and we just sleeve a 30mm AFV barrel down to .50.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:10:23 PM EDT
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I wrote Va and ND because I couldn't remember off the top of my head where your family homestead was located.
NY sucks and I am looking to sell my hotel and move on to the next thing. Va and ND and Mt all sound like places where I don't go to bed at night wondering if I'm going to wake up at 4 am to a state police red flag hit squad because I may possibly own body armor. Still buying into a tankshare or militaryhelicoptershare sounds like crazy fun. Va has great weather and is close but seems to be following NY in tyranny. ND or Mt sounds like less tyranny but so far away with really harsh weather. Selling the hotel and what to do next is overwhelming for all the possibilities. If you are ever in upstate NY you are welcome at my hotel. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:11:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wrote Va and ND because I couldn't remember off the top of my head where your family homestead was located. NY sucks and I am looking to sell my hotel and move on to the next thing. Va and ND and Mt all sound like places where I don't go to bed at night wondering if I'm going to wake up at 4 am to a state police red flag hit squad because I may possibly own body armor. Still buying into a tankshare or militaryhelicoptershare sounds like crazy fun. Va has great weather and is close but seems to be following NY in tyranny. ND or Mt sounds like less tyranny but so far away with really harsh weather. Selling the hotel and what to do next is overwhelming for all the possibilities. If you are ever in upstate NY you are welcome at my hotel. In all seriousness- I already cleared it with the wife to build a reproduction WWI biplane and put an airstrip in on our place in Montana. A kit plane can be done for...less than a toyota tacoma. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had the ducats, a Soviet PT-76 amphib would be my vehicle. Cross rivers! Laughs at snow. Also consume less fuel than a Tiger I. I'd like to have an ASU-85 |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:18:59 PM EDT
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There's someone out on the Highway that has a couple of armored vehicles for sale plus a real Unimog. I'd like to get the Unimog.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:25:20 PM EDT
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I’m down for fractional ownership just needs a lot more fractions.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FUCK NO!!! I notice you don't have dog tags by your avatar. I was a tanker for 22 years. You have no idea of what maintenance it takes to keep a tank operational. In the 80's it was a truism that it took 8-10 hours of maintenance for every hour of driving. Who is going to do your DS and GS maintenance. Have you ever pulled a pack, Bro? ETA: No matter who does your DS/GS maintenance, I can guarantee you that they will call at 15:30 on the Friday before a long weekend to say "Your shit's ready. Come get it!" They took all the bling away. No more tanks, dog tags, Etc, all that stuff is gone for Now. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:28:28 PM EDT
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For a future conflict... in minecraft I would think speed and easy maintainability would be key.
armored up construction equipment would probably be cheaper to acquire and much cheaper to maintain. Of course the question becomes what do you fire off of it. Maybe nothing, maybe a killdozer type that plants expl o. sives or acts as an armored transport. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:37:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Oshkosh JLTV
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:42:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:58:30 PM EDT
[#18]
If you have the money these guys can provide. https://www.excaliburarmy.cz/
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:48:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They took all the bling away. No more tanks, dog tags, Etc, all that stuff is gone for Now. Thanks. I had not noticed. I apologize to anyone I criticized for not having dogtags. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 1:52:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .. No? Would like to have an M1 Abrams. Maintenance would probably be a bitch though. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 2:08:22 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm holding out for battlefield pickups
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Posted: 1/17/2021 11:50:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have the money these guys can provide. https://www.excaliburarmy.cz/ I like the upgraded BMP...any idea what those run? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 1:03:20 AM EDT
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I so want a Ferret and have a transferable 1919 to put in it even. My buddy has one but it is stripped down and rusty awaiting restoration that he will probably never get around to doing.
He says that they are reliable and the biggest issue is transmissions in them so if your going to buy one make sure it drives. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 1:56:41 AM EDT
[#24]
Interested but poor
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Posted: 1/18/2021 2:32:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It needs to have a working main gun or it sucks. Just my dumb opinion. I had thought about how cool it would be to own a Sherman, because I liked those tanks as a kid. A Sherman would be nice to own. Of course then I'd have to get an old Colt 1911, a Garand, and a Thompson (Tommy Gun). |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:50:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always thought the Ferret was cool as hell. IIRC this one sold for like $27k I've always wanted a Ferret! If I was rich and didn't have to work, I'd get a rolling chassis from another vehicle and make my own. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:55:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the upgraded BMP...any idea what those run? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:02:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Id love to have the up-armored TLC I drove in Afghanistan. Thing was a beast and never let us down.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:11:03 AM EDT
[#29]
I’ve always wanted one of these. I know where a M3 is that was converted over to M16 specs stateside during WW2, still has all factory armor.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:25:56 AM EDT
[#30]
I told my wife I wanted a tank. She said, "yeah, but where would you park it?"
Anywhere I damn well please. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:31:27 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A Sherman would be nice to own. Of course then I'd have to get an old Colt 1911, a Garand, and a Thompson (Tommy Gun). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It needs to have a working main gun or it sucks. Just my dumb opinion. I had thought about how cool it would be to own a Sherman, because I liked those tanks as a kid. A Sherman would be nice to own. Of course then I'd have to get an old Colt 1911, a Garand, and a Thompson (Tommy Gun). it's very hard to shoot yourself while you're cleaning it 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I told my wife I wanted a tank. She said, "yeah, but where would you park it?" Anywhere I damn well please. You can park it at my place. I'll even cover the cost of a garage to store it in. Jen and I will of course start it and drive it around once a month to keep the batteries charged.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:25:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had the ducats, a Soviet PT-76 amphib would be my vehicle. Cross rivers! Laughs at snow. Also consume less fuel than a Tiger I. That will be important in the coming years.  .....or just do the Tiger yourself. I suspect that the Ruskies have it in kit form by now.  Replica of Tiger tank |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FUCK NO!!! I notice you don't have dog tags by your avatar. I was a tanker for 22 years. You have no idea of what maintenance it takes to keep a tank operational. In the 80's it was a truism that it took 8-10 hours of maintenance for every hour of driving. Who is going to do your DS and GS maintenance. Have you ever pulled a pack, Bro? ETA: No matter who does your DS/GS maintenance, I can guarantee you that they will call at 15:30 on the Friday before a long weekend to say "Your shit's ready. Come get it!" |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:02:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the upgraded BMP...any idea what those run? 39-90k |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:12:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It needs to have a working main gun or it sucks. Just my dumb opinion. I had thought about how cool it would be to own a Sherman, because I liked those tanks as a kid. This, otherwise the next best thing would be an APC, personally fond of the BTRs, and BMPs.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:21:16 PM EDT
[#37]
Can I play?
 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:26:29 PM EDT
[#38]
I'm going to be honest with you, you don't want to go in with me on an armored vehicle. Hell I wouldn't even lease a Honda Civic to me. I'm gonna beat the piss out of it.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:40:04 PM EDT
[#40]
@ben
Mortar is a known scam. Don’t deal with them. If you do end up wanting something the boss imports them, we got the leopards that came in the last couple of years.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:43:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: There I was, thinking about how my old roommate and a few buddies went in and bought a couple planes together. Then it hit me...people buy planes together all the time. One guy can fly a plane though- tanks and armored vehicles have a crew of 3, 4, sometimes even 5. I want to buy an armored vehicle. You want to buy an armored vehicle. Why don't we all get together and buy armored vehicles for fun and adventure? Some armored vehicles are surprisingly inexpensive. Most are cheaper than a nice new sports car. This is a thread for people that want to buy armored vehicles. Let's locate 3 or 4 of your new best Anyone round abouts driving distance from Northern Virginia that wants some armor? $50k dollars- split 4 ways for a measly 12.5k each gets this guy: https://mortarinvestments.eu/userfiles/images/items/T55AM2/width1200w/_6228039%20(1).JPG $30k dollars split up to 10 or more ways...just a few thousand each...gets you this guy: http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/media/galleries/1658/bvp-1_01.jpg If Soviet armor is too commie for you, how about a lovely Austrian armored fighting vehicle ready for your 20mm barrel to eliminate prairie dogs or ground hogs in style? http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/media/galleries/1669/saurer_4k_4fa_vez_02.jpg I like the idea of arfcom regional groups pitching in to buy themselves an armored APC or tank to get running. If anything were to go down, said groups aka squads already have an armored vehicle that they can use to their advantage. For example in TX, Austin alone has about 6 regional groups, San Antonio has about 1, though I'm sure that could be increased if more TX members networked, I think Houston can have about 3 regional groups maybe even a few more, and the Corpus guys have about 1 group with the potential for more. That's about 11 armored vehicles in only 4 regions of TX, not counting the rest of the state, only the ones that made threads to network so far per the hometown forum. Now imagine if all of arfcom did the same in other states. We really could have our own small army. Just a thought.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:47:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the idea of arfcom regional groups pitching in to buy themselves an armored APC or tank to get running. If anything were to go down, said groups aka squads already have an armored vehicle that they can use to their advantage. For example in TX, Austin alone has about 6 regional groups, San Antonio has about 1, though I'm sure that could be increased if more TX members networked, I think Houston can have about 3 regional groups maybe even a few more, and the Corpus guys have about 1 group with the potential for more. That's about 11 armored vehicles in only 4 regions of TX, not counting the rest of the state, only the ones that made threads to network so far per the hometown forum. Now imagine if all of arfcom did the same in other states. We really could have our own small army. Just a thought. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There I was, thinking about how my old roommate and a few buddies went in and bought a couple planes together. Then it hit me...people buy planes together all the time. One guy can fly a plane though- tanks and armored vehicles have a crew of 3, 4, sometimes even 5. I want to buy an armored vehicle. You want to buy an armored vehicle. Why don't we all get together and buy armored vehicles for fun and adventure? Some armored vehicles are surprisingly inexpensive. Most are cheaper than a nice new sports car. This is a thread for people that want to buy armored vehicles. Let's locate 3 or 4 of your new best Anyone round abouts driving distance from Northern Virginia that wants some armor? $50k dollars- split 4 ways for a measly 12.5k each gets this guy: https://mortarinvestments.eu/userfiles/images/items/T55AM2/width1200w/_6228039%20(1).JPG $30k dollars split up to 10 or more ways...just a few thousand each...gets you this guy: http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/media/galleries/1658/bvp-1_01.jpg If Soviet armor is too commie for you, how about a lovely Austrian armored fighting vehicle ready for your 20mm barrel to eliminate prairie dogs or ground hogs in style? http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/media/galleries/1669/saurer_4k_4fa_vez_02.jpg I like the idea of arfcom regional groups pitching in to buy themselves an armored APC or tank to get running. If anything were to go down, said groups aka squads already have an armored vehicle that they can use to their advantage. For example in TX, Austin alone has about 6 regional groups, San Antonio has about 1, though I'm sure that could be increased if more TX members networked, I think Houston can have about 3 regional groups maybe even a few more, and the Corpus guys have about 1 group with the potential for more. That's about 11 armored vehicles in only 4 regions of TX, not counting the rest of the state, only the ones that made threads to network so far per the hometown forum. Now imagine if all of arfcom did the same in other states. We really could have our own small army. Just a thought. Speaking from a historical perspective- it was often the case that cannons and other expensive equipment or weapons that had value to large groups were bought in group efforts. It was the exception, rather than the rule, that a single person owned an artillery piece, much less a battery. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:48:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shipping is going to fuck you over so bad, it's even more expensive than the tanks themselves. This is one of the things Europeans have over us, they can get way cheaper milsurp armor from the ex-commie states.  Not even remotely close to being true. How many have you shipped? @jackthom8  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:55:21 PM EDT
[#44]
If I win the Mega Millions tonight, I'm buying a Ferret. For starters.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 6:57:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A Sherman would be nice to own. Of course then I'd have to get an old Colt 1911, a Garand, and a Thompson (Tommy Gun). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It needs to have a working main gun or it sucks. Just my dumb opinion. I had thought about how cool it would be to own a Sherman, because I liked those tanks as a kid. A Sherman would be nice to own. Of course then I'd have to get an old Colt 1911, a Garand, and a Thompson (Tommy Gun). 1911 and an M3 grease gun were the issue arms for tankers. Pulling a pack gets done based on run hours. An M48-M60 series tranny and oil change is measured in multiple gallons. Plenty of grease points and hydraulic maintenance as well. Lots of work. Never mind changing a track block. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:41:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can park it at my place. I'll even cover the cost of a garage to store it in. Jen and I will of course start it and drive it around once a month to keep the batteries charged. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I told my wife I wanted a tank. She said, "yeah, but where would you park it?" Anywhere I damn well please. You can park it at my place. I'll even cover the cost of a garage to store it in. Jen and I will of course start it and drive it around once a month to keep the batteries charged. Let's see, 3000 miles at 30 miles per hour times 2 miles per gallon... Yeah, I can be there sometime in 2032 |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:47:24 PM EDT
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This will break your heart. I worked with an old welder who had a business building yarders during the height of the PNW logging boom, maybe in the 60's - 70's. He would go to Europe and buy a trainload of surplus Shermans, ship them back, salvage the hull and running gear, and turn them into yarders. He described removing the rubber from roadwheels by burning them in his back yard. The rest of the tank would go to scrap.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:52:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This will break your heart. I worked with an old welder who had a business building yarders during the height of the PNW logging boom, maybe in the 60's - 70's. He would go to Europe and buy a trainload of surplus Shermans, ship them back, salvage the hull and running gear, and turn them into yarders. He described removing the rubber from roadwheels by burning them in his back yard. The rest of the tank would go to scrap. Lots of old tank chassis yarders still around. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:54:16 PM EDT
[#49]
You should get wheeled stuff for VCDL lobby days.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:28:43 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In all seriousness- I already cleared it with the wife to build a reproduction WWI biplane and put an airstrip in on our place in Montana. A kit plane can be done for...less than a toyota tacoma. If you really want a WWI biplane, contact the flight school at Greenville Pa Municipal Airport (Address: 511 E Jamestown Rd, Greenville, PA 16125 Phone: (724) 588-1665). Ask if there is still a company still building biplanes in their hangar. |
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