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I been through wrestling workouts for years and then years of weight training after that before I ran starting strength. I still believe it’s the best thing I ever did. When I stalled on it I reset my weights lower and kept going then broke through that wall and stalled again. Then I reset lower and took another run at it and again broke through that wall.
I think doing that back then is why I can still lift heavy at 47 years old and never had a significant injury.
It’s about building that foundation of strength that will help you no matter what your end goals are.
I’m just a little dude at 5’7” 165 and about 8 percent body fat currently. At that size and my age my total is still around 1200 even though I’ve been doing bodybuilding type things for the last year. I believe starting strength has a lot to do with my success.
I even went back later and ran starting strength again once when I needed something to follow when my motivation was lacking. It’s a perfectly designed beginner program.
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Starting strength isn't for everyone though. Former athletes don't really need it, and people that get easily bored don't really need it. Especially if the goal isn't particularly strength oriented. It skips over GPP entirely, and turns into a grind quickly. Most people don't run it correctly anyway, you are supposed to go hard and fast with it, and after 8-12 weeks when you start to stall, you are done, move on. Too many people run right into a wall full speed then back and up and do it again for months on that program, I have no idea why.
Ivysaur 448, Greyskull with some plug ins or GZLP are decent alternatives because they give you a much better built in gauge for progress, teach you more than one way to progress, and are more versatile in what you can focus on. Greyskull is kind of what I circle back around to when I need to jump back in, pushing one set hard and have that rep PR each workout is a lot more motivating than hitting 5's and calling it a day.
I been through wrestling workouts for years and then years of weight training after that before I ran starting strength. I still believe it’s the best thing I ever did. When I stalled on it I reset my weights lower and kept going then broke through that wall and stalled again. Then I reset lower and took another run at it and again broke through that wall.
I think doing that back then is why I can still lift heavy at 47 years old and never had a significant injury.
It’s about building that foundation of strength that will help you no matter what your end goals are.
I’m just a little dude at 5’7” 165 and about 8 percent body fat currently. At that size and my age my total is still around 1200 even though I’ve been doing bodybuilding type things for the last year. I believe starting strength has a lot to do with my success.
I even went back later and ran starting strength again once when I needed something to follow when my motivation was lacking. It’s a perfectly designed beginner program.
Look up Cody LeFever and GZLP. Bromely talks about it too. Starting strength doesn't end up being a strength builder as much as it's a strength tester, which is why some guys seem to take it much farther than others before stalling.
I won't say it's bad, just that there's a lot better.
For me, grinding 5's has never worked. I've tried it with both SL and SS, and both of them beat the fuck out of me once working sets get too close to 5RM, and a reset doesn't do anything because there's no measure for progress. It's incredibly discouraging to ramp back up and fail near the same weight again.
I always feel the best and seem to progress the best when working for a single hard set of the day and them pushing more volume to finish. Me and Greyskull get along well.
Granted my goals have never been strength, at least not more than I need day to day. A 2x BW deadlift for reps is fine with me, keeps my back safe at work.
Running BBB for a few cycles was probably when I looked and felt my best, and you are using relatively light weights for most of the sets on those days.
Lately I've been adopting more principles from Dan John. I got into lifting late (I have always been an athlete though) and made the mistake of acting like I was 20 when I was pushing 30. Starting strength is great for super weak people I think, and make good after a long layoff to test where you should be at over the course of several weeks, other than that, I think there's just more productive and more enjoyable options for the bulk of people and their goals.