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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:32:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: yeah totally agree. dodge undersells what these cars can do, I know this thing will do under 4. I'm also 240lb and I've got some extras under the hood that probably add another 10lbs or so. With drag radials on a prepped track I feel like this thing would do closer to 3.5 with no mods. I'm also thinking of modding the car for mid-range gains. Long tube headers, intake, tune.  Man I'd love to hear how it goes if you mod the exhaust. If ya got a YT channel, please do tell and I'll follow. 
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Posted: 3/19/2023 1:11:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: Also, I got one of goofy feelings that we all love to make fun of each other over - I swear it seemed to really rev quicker after this last service. This was the first time they changed the engine air filter. The car's only got like 3Kish miles on it, and it was just a new MOPAR they put it. But you know how the ole seat of the pants mysticism can set it - I swear it felt like that new air filter did her good. Man I'd love to hear how it goes if you mod the exhaust. If ya got a YT channel, please do tell and I'll follow. I would tend to believe it, getting more air in is important. Even though they dont add as much as they do in other cars, I still want an intake. I'll share here if I do anything. This is as social media as I get lol. I have options since I'm in NC. Both Petty's Garage and National Speed are near-ish, as well as a bunch of other local shops. National Speed also has a spot up in Richmond. I got a couple quotes and I'd be looking at about 4k all in for headers, intake, pcm work/tune, dyno, labor. Those additions would probably put ~470 to the wheels peak but the big gains for these 392s seem to be in the mid-range with gains ~50hp at just over 4k rpm where these cars dip on the dynos. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 1:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: I would tend to believe it, getting more air in is important. Even though they dont add as much as they do in other cars, I still want an intake. I'll share here if I do anything. This is as social media as I get lol. I have options since I'm in NC. Both Petty's Garage and National Speed are near-ish, as well as a bunch of other local shops. National Speed also has a spot up in Richmond. I got a couple quotes and I'd be looking at about 4k all in for headers, intake, pcm work/tune, dyno, labor. Those additions would probably put ~470 to the wheels peak but the big gains for these 392s seem to be in the mid-range with gains ~50hp at just over 4k rpm where these cars dip on the dynos. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 2:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: Lucky. Now I'm picky and OCD, and all I really know about Petty's is I got and loved their paint matched strut brace for our Charger - and from what I've seen on their site, and some shop pics someone here posted a while back. But my gut tells me I'd totally trust that organization with my baby. I'm the same way, it's hard to know who to trust. I see the videos Petty's puts out and they seem like pros but then they get very few reviews online and a couple aren't good. I like National Speeds videos on YT. They seem pretty transparent about what they can do and their shop appears to be clean and professional looking. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: I'm the same way, it's hard to know who to trust. I see the videos Petty's puts out and they seem like pros but then they get very few reviews online and a couple aren't good. I like National Speeds videos on YT. They seem pretty transparent about what they can do and their shop appears to be clean and professional looking. I wish National speed was closer to me |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:50:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: So started the day finally ready to buy a Scat. Dealer with car I am interested in was playing games. Went and looked at Mustangs. Base model mustang seats suck! Tried the Recaro in a Mach 1, and much better. Found a 21, with 3k miles, and damn near brought it home. This was auction car, and appears to be owned by the dealership for several months now... Listed for 53k. Dealer played the usual games, then the manager came out and said are you sure we can't get a deal done. He asked if I would buy it for $45k. I think he was playing BS to try to get me to stay, so I said I'm gonna jet. I could get a brand new one with zero miles, for 53k. I looked at another Mach, and was running the car fax. I see original buyer, then an online listing/auto auction. Car dealer inventory, 2 months later another dealer. Then an auction, and the dealer it currently is at. Curious why it would be changing hands so much... Thoughts? Just buy new - then you get a full warranty. Used cars from a dealer are not a good deal, and any savings is partially offset by a higher interest rate. The dealer is anxious to sell that car because of their floor plan - it is costing them interest to keep it on the lot. I would also be wary of an auction car - why did it go to auction? What kind of hidden problems might it have? And why has it been on the lot for months? It's not a good deal. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:34:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tcmass: I wish National speed was closer to me could take a mini-vacation and have work done while you see the town. its what ill probably do since theyre still a few hours from me. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 8:17:39 PM EDT
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Starts at the top of the hour.
 2023 Dodge Last Call Powered by Roadkill Nights Vegas | LIVESTREAM REPLAY |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:07:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JuanPing: Starts at the top of the hour.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abJ-CkuoxKAInterviewing a bunch of people nobody cares about instead of getting to it... |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:12:13 PM EDT
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I wanted them to come out with a 426 NA in that 600HP range right between the 392 and Hellcat. Would have traded my Scat immediately. Never happened and now it never will.
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:53:13 PM EDT
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New Demon
Runs on E-85 1025HP 975TQ Banned by NHRA again Carbon fiber & titanium wheels lighter than race wheels, no need for front skinnies now. And nobody will be able to get one... |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:56:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp: New Demon Runs on E-85 1025HP 975TQ Banned by NHRA again Carbon fiber & titanium wheels lighter than race wheels, no need for front skinnies now. And nobody will be able to get one... Oh people will get them just not us regular folks |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 9:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Swoosh101: Oh people will get them just not us regular folks Current Demon owners have first right of refusal - can get the new one vin matched to their 2018. |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:01:13 PM EDT
[#14]
$97k?
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWith a $500K to $1M dealer markup... |
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:03:03 PM EDT
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$96,666 to be exact.
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:10:59 PM EDT
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That was an amazing debut.
3300 being produced, 300 of those for Canada. I seriously would try to get one for MSRP, but we know that is impossible. So Ill just live with Hellcat. 
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Posted: 3/20/2023 10:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFII: That was an amazing debut. 3300 being produced, 300 of those for Canada. I seriously would try to get one for MSRP, but we know that is impossible. So Ill just live with Hellcat. Probably close to 3,000 used Demons about to hit the market in a few months... |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 11:01:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DV8EDD]
[#19]
thread in GD about it. you can get a fucking factory parachute for it lol. Optional wheels in the video cost $11.5k.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Dodge-resurrects-Challenger-SRT-Demon/5-2632009/  REVEALED! The 2023 Challenger SRT Demon 170 Ends Dodge's Era of Excess with 1025-HP V8 |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 8:09:35 PM EDT
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I feel like I might go on a stabbing spree one day.
Went to GF's cousins house yesterday we're looking at eachothers cars, notice him leaning on my door and wince. Today at work someone leaving on the mirror. Today I notice it looks like some asshole sat on my hood. Because I have no clue how else these scratches would appear What the fuck is wrong with people.    |
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Posted: 3/21/2023 9:20:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2023 11:11:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: I feel like I might go on a stabbing spree one day. Went to GF's cousins house yesterday we're looking at eachothers cars, notice him leaning on my door and wince. Today at work someone leaving on the mirror. Today I notice it looks like some asshole sat on my hood. Because I have no clue how else these scratches would appear What the fuck is wrong with people. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170519-2754635.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170532-2754637.jpg its fucking mind boggling what people do. I cant even count the number of times I've walked out of a store to find some asshole parked driver door to driver door right next to my car which is parked out in the middle of nowhere. I have a scratch on my passenger pillar. How the FUCK does that part of a car get scratched!? Was probably my wife, the same person that will leave greasy finger prints all over the door when she opens and closes it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2023 1:13:26 PM EDT
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I just had a funny outing, felt like sharing. Challengers are very popular in my area. I mean REALLY popular. I see them every minute or two when I'm on the road, all ranges of trim levels and years. Always someone to chat with at the grocery store with one. Tons of Mustangs and Camaros also.
Anyway, i just ran to the postal annex to ship the Scat Pack coolant cover to icecold1. I see three challengers on my way. While I'm there I see they have the pony car stamps for sale so I buy them. Then I walk outside and see the General Lee theme (no flag on this one) Then I get in mine to leave and I see a widebody (not sure if HC or SP) same color as mine, hellraisn. He was cruising with another black standard body. First time I've seen another widebody in hellraisin in my AO. I swear you can't go ten feet around here without seeing a challenger or charger.  
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Posted: 3/24/2023 5:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: I just had a funny outing, felt like sharing. Challengers are very popular in my area. I mean REALLY popular. I see them every minute or two when I'm on the road, all ranges of trim levels and years. Always someone to chat with at the grocery store with one. Tons of Mustangs and Camaros also. Anyway, i just ran to the postal annex to ship the Scat Pack coolant cover to icecold1. I see three challengers on my way. While I'm there I see they have the pony car stamps for sale so I buy them. Then I walk outside and see the General Lee theme (no flag on this one) Then I get in mine to leave and I see a widebody (not sure if HC or SP) same color as mine, hellraisn. He was cruising with another black standard body. First time I've seen another widebody in hellraisin in my AO. I swear you can't go ten feet around here without seeing a challenger or charger. https://i.imgur.com/2LQy3Mfh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pZZeShJh.jpg  I got two sheets of those stamps a little while back - one to use, and one to save since they are so darn cool. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 5:22:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Butternut]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: I feel like I might go on a stabbing spree one day. Went to GF's cousins house yesterday we're looking at eachothers cars, notice him leaning on my door and wince. Today at work someone leaving on the mirror. Today I notice it looks like some asshole sat on my hood. Because I have no clue how else these scratches would appear What the fuck is wrong with people. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170519-2754635.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170532-2754637.jpg  Pulp Fiction - Don't F with another man's vehicle |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 9:01:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: People are or sure can be jealous assholes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO48Vr4KIc8Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: I feel like I might go on a stabbing spree one day. Went to GF's cousins house yesterday we're looking at eachothers cars, notice him leaning on my door and wince. Today at work someone leaving on the mirror. Today I notice it looks like some asshole sat on my hood. Because I have no clue how else these scratches would appear What the fuck is wrong with people. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170519-2754635.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20230321_170532-2754637.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO48Vr4KIc8FUCKIN A RIGHT. It's against the rules. It's a bitch move. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 11:03:27 AM EDT
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The WB SC I was looking at sold a while back. Been keeping an eye on a couple of Mach 1 mustangs, and Challengers.
Not much out there right now for challengers. |
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Posted: 3/29/2023 4:10:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shocktrp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: The WB SC I was looking at sold a while back. Been keeping an eye on a couple of Mach 1 mustangs, and Challengers. Not much out there right now for challengers. You can still do factory orders if you can't find what you want on the lot. Dealers are getting more allotments. https://www.dodgegarage.com/horsepower-locator |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 4:32:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: The WB SC I was looking at sold a while back. Been keeping an eye on a couple of Mach 1 mustangs, and Challengers. Not much out there right now for challengers. vehicle delivery is so cheap these days, I'd say looking nationwide is doable as long as you're getting the deal you want from a known seller. |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 7:00:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Thanks fellas! I joined the club on Friday. A scat Charger, still playing nice with it during breakin. Definitely tell there is a lot there waiting to be unleashed.
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Posted: 4/2/2023 8:51:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trouble_shooting: Thanks fellas! I joined the club on Friday. A scat Charger, still playing nice with it during breakin. Definitely tell there is a lot there waiting to be unleashed. The first 500 miles of break-in are tough, but the first 100 miles of break-in are almost cruel. I related the story here before, but it's worth repeating. I picked up my Challenger Scat Pack Widebody from a dealer in Connecticut and had to drive it back to Long Island. The car only had 5 miles on the odometer when I drove it home. Of course, because of the OEM recommended break-in procedure for the 392 (6.4L) engine, I had to keep it at 55 MPH for the first 100 miles. You should have seen the sometimes nasty/mostly befuddled looks I was getting as I was poking down I-91/I-95 at 55 MPH to the get the beast to the ferry at Bridgeport, CT, before heading across Long Island Sound to bring her home to Long Island. If not already, you will soon find out these are incredibly fun cars to drive, the last of the breed. You will also get to know which gas stations have the best price on Premium Unleaded, as well as how to hunt down the best prices on SRT oil filters (Mopar OEM No. 5038041AA, aka MO-041), and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic 0W-40 (aka, PUP 0W-40). Again, congratulations! |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 9:42:55 PM EDT
[#32]
They didn’t tell me the break in limits before my test drive
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Posted: 4/2/2023 10:04:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zak-Smith: They didn’t tell me the break in limits before my test drive Doesn't matter, the cars are test driven, & driven by the delivery drivers that don't care about break in. And they market these cars as going straight from the showroom to the drag strip. |
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Posted: 4/2/2023 10:25:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zak-Smith]
[#34]
I know. I never do special break in stuff, cars or bikes. Just accelerate the first oil change.
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Posted: 4/3/2023 4:50:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLWrench: Awesome! Congratulations! Post pics when you get an opportunity. The first 500 miles of break-in are tough, but the first 100 miles of break-in are almost cruel. I related the story here before, but it's worth repeating. I picked up my Challenger Scat Pack Widebody from a dealer in Connecticut and had to drive it back to Long Island. The car only had 5 miles on the odometer when I drove it home. Of course, because of the OEM recommended break-in procedure for the 392 (6.4L) engine, I had to keep it at 55 MPH for the first 100 miles. You should have seen the sometimes nasty/mostly befuddled looks I was getting as I was poking down I-91/I-95 at 55 MPH to the get the beast to the ferry at Bridgeport, CT, before heading across Long Island Sound to bring her home to Long Island. If not already, you will soon find out these are incredibly fun cars to drive, the last of the breed. You will also get to know which gas stations have the best price on Premium Unleaded, as well as how to hunt down the best prices on SRT oil filters (Mopar OEM No. 5038041AA, aka MO-041), and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic 0W-40 (aka, PUP 0W-40). Again, congratulations! Thanks for the info and the story! That had to be a sight to see! Glad you mentioned the oil filter, I am getting conflicting information on which one. I see MO-041 and MO-899, which one is preferred? |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 8:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trouble_shooting: Thanks for the info and the story! That had to be a sight to see! Glad you mentioned the oil filter, I am getting conflicting information on which one. I see MO-041 and MO-899, which one is preferred? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trouble_shooting: Originally Posted By TLWrench: Awesome! Congratulations! Post pics when you get an opportunity. The first 500 miles of break-in are tough, but the first 100 miles of break-in are almost cruel. I related the story here before, but it's worth repeating. I picked up my Challenger Scat Pack Widebody from a dealer in Connecticut and had to drive it back to Long Island. The car only had 5 miles on the odometer when I drove it home. Of course, because of the OEM recommended break-in procedure for the 392 (6.4L) engine, I had to keep it at 55 MPH for the first 100 miles. You should have seen the sometimes nasty/mostly befuddled looks I was getting as I was poking down I-91/I-95 at 55 MPH to the get the beast to the ferry at Bridgeport, CT, before heading across Long Island Sound to bring her home to Long Island. If not already, you will soon find out these are incredibly fun cars to drive, the last of the breed. You will also get to know which gas stations have the best price on Premium Unleaded, as well as how to hunt down the best prices on SRT oil filters (Mopar OEM No. 5038041AA, aka MO-041), and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Full Synthetic 0W-40 (aka, PUP 0W-40). Again, congratulations! Thanks for the info and the story! That had to be a sight to see! Glad you mentioned the oil filter, I am getting conflicting information on which one. I see MO-041 and MO-899, which one is preferred? |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 9:13:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trouble_shooting: Thanks for the info and the story! That had to be a sight to see! Glad you mentioned the oil filter, I am getting conflicting information on which one. I see MO-041 and MO-899, which one is preferred? The SRT filters are apparently back-ordered so you should order a case or two now; or grab them when you can find them. |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 9:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp: The SRT filters are apparently back-ordered so you should order a case or two now; or grab them when you can find them. Amazon has them in stock, but 19 bucks each.... https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mopar-5038041AA-FILTER/dp/B006T08WXM |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 9:37:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stitches1974: Amazon has them in stock, but 19 bucks each.... https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Mopar-5038041AA-FILTER/dp/B006T08WXM I think I paid $9/each back in 2021. |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 9:42:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp: I think I paid $9/each back in 2021. 12 the last time I bought them in 2020. Either way, price is way too high. |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 5:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLWrench: MO-899 is the OEM filter from the factory. It's fine. The MO-041 is a better built, higher performance filter. But, given normal operation, there's probably little appreciable difference between the two. I'd describe it as nice to have. Makes sense, thanks for the details |
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Posted: 4/3/2023 5:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shocktrp: The SRT filters are apparently back-ordered so you should order a case or two now; or grab them when you can find them. Thank you for the heads up, I am starting to shop for them now |
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Posted: 4/7/2023 5:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trouble_shooting: Thanks fellas! I joined the club on Friday. A scat Charger, still playing nice with it during breakin. Definitely tell there is a lot there waiting to be unleashed.  Pics?
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Posted: 4/7/2023 5:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zak-Smith: They didn't tell me the break in limits before my test drive
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Posted: 4/8/2023 10:41:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Butternut]
[#45]
I had to share this - peak market insanity. A local dealer is actually asking $79K for a loaded 2023 Scat Pack WB.
I thank God for the deal we got on our 2020 - goodness gracious ETA, so by the sticker it's technically called a "Shaker 392", but still, that's a WB SP with shaker. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 2:54:21 PM EDT
[#46]
Does that have a market adjustment or is it just options?
I got mine for normal sticker about 6 weeks ago |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 3:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zak-Smith: Does that have a market adjustment or is it just options? I got mine for normal sticker about 6 weeks ago https://www.fairoaksmotors.com/api/legacy/pse/windowsticker/dodge?vin=2C3CDZFJXPH546059&accountId=fairoakschryslerjeepcllc MSRP is $69K, they added a $10K market. That dealer should be blackballed until they are out of business - plenty of other dealers will sell at MSRP or less. |
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Posted: 4/8/2023 3:43:19 PM EDT
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I hit nearly 17mpg in the Redeye yesterday.
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Posted: 4/8/2023 5:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: I hit nearly 17mpg in the Redeye yesterday. I get routinely over 20 in my Hellcat Challenger
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Posted: 4/8/2023 9:26:22 PM EDT
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We got out to play again today. We've only got like 3.5K miles on her. Anyhoo, I think I mentioned this before, but it may possibly be worth considering engine air filter changes in these monsters maybe more often than would seem intuitive and called for in the service schedule. I know, it should be as simple as giving it a look over, and I've never had it make a profound difference in any other vehicle I've ever owned. But we had it changed a few weeks ago in the latest service, and I swear by God the throttle response is noticeably different. And prior to that, we never went anywhere near a dirt road or the like. Just a thought, as strange as it might sound.
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