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Posted: 9/29/2020 7:54:56 PM EDT
What causes that feeling, blood pressure drop?
I got a bad one a little while ago. I think I went away for a few seconds. |
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Blood pressure or possibly low oxygen level in your blood due to working out. just my guess.
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Don't hold your breath. Inhale going down, exhale coming back up.
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Have a partially torn shoulder and more than once overworking it triggered some sort of vasovagal response and my BP bottomed out.
Not from pain, just hit the right combo i guess. Not instantly but like a minute later. Scared the wife once when I was sitting there holding my water bottle but went unresponsive for like 15 seconds... Learned not to overdo it from now on. |
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[#7]
A cigarette is lighter then a water bottle.
Go easy on yourself. |
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When your lifting partner shows up w/ a bucket on leg day, you know its gonna be rough...
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Quoted: Don't hold your breath. Inhale going down, exhale coming back up View Quote Dont do that. Holding your breathe allows you to tighten your core, considering that your core is the thing holding all that weight.. a tight core is important. |
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Almost? That's not giving it 100%. Just joking, I feel light headed once in a while also. I think it's from holding my breath.
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Quoted: Considering this advice goes absolutely counter to everything every lifting coach I've heard about says.... Dont do that. Holding your breathe allows you to tighten your core, considering that your core is the thing holding all that weight.. a tight core is important. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Don't hold your breath. Inhale going down, exhale coming back up Dont do that. Holding your breathe allows you to tighten your core, considering that your core is the thing holding all that weight.. a tight core is important. You're not holding your breath for 10 reps. Inhale going down, exhale at the top The light headedness is caused by lack of O2 and the drop in BP which occurs after your set. Your muscles require more O2 for heavy lifts, but since you're holding your breath and working hard they can't get it. The heart tries to pump more blood to compensate, thus increasing BP which then drops / returns to normal after your exertion is over causing the light headedness. It's a sign of a good set. |
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Are you well hydrated, OP?
Should be drinking 2/3 of, or up to a gallon of water every day. |
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Quoted: You're not holding your breath for 10 reps. Inhale going down, exhale at the top The light headedness is caused by lack of O2 and the drop in BP which occurs after your set. Your muscles require more O2 for heavy lifts, but since you're holding your breath and working hard they can't get it. The heart tries to pump more blood to compensate, thus increasing BP which then drops / returns to normal after your exertion is over causing the light headedness. It's a sign of a good set. View Quote And no lifting coach would advise what you and the other guy are advising, most especially for 'heavy' reps |
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Quoted: You're not holding your breath for 10 reps. Inhale going down, exhale at the top The light headedness is caused by lack of O2 and the drop in BP which occurs after your set. Your muscles require more O2 for heavy lifts, but since you're holding your breath and working hard they can't get it. The heart tries to pump more blood to compensate, thus increasing BP which then drops / returns to normal after your exertion is over causing the light headedness. It's a sign of a good set. View Quote Hold your breath while the bar is moving. Exhale and inhale at the top, between reps. |
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Sounds like vasovagal syncope potentially. Also trouble when you bear down to poop?
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What’s your blood pressure typically?
Do you have this issue at any other time in your life? Make sure to “hold” your valsalva in your abdomen, not your head. I exhale (grunt) as I get to the top and that seems to help dizziness. Edit: The reason I ask about this issue at other times in life is that if you routinely feel dizzy after exertion, you might need to see a doc. |
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Holding your breath with the load on you ramps up your blood pressure. Then if you release under a big load your blood pressure will drop huge amounts. Don't release your breath until the pressure is off.
This happens to me on deads that I don't get up and put a lot of effort into. |
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Quoted: What’s your blood pressure typically? Do you have this issue at any other time in your life? Make sure to “hold” your valsalva in your abdomen, not your head. I exhale (grunt) as I get to the top and that seems to help dizziness. Edit: The reason I ask about this issue at other times in life is that if you routinely feel dizzy after exertion, you might need to see a doc. View Quote Deep breaths after the lift really helps. |
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When you hold your breath, you increase your intrathoracic pressure (the pressure in your chest). THe aorta is a big, thick vessel...it carries blood away from the heart to the lower body. THe inferior vena cava (large vein that carries blood back to your heart from the lower extremities) is thin. WHen you hold your breath and exert yourself, you collapse the vena cava, so that blood can't return to the heart and your blood pressure drops. DOn't do that.
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Orthostatic hypotension here. Nearly passing out after a heavy set has somewhat become routine for me. Inhale big, valsalva, drop into the hole, exhale at the top, rinse and repeat, rack the bar, hold onto the cage and enjoy the pretty lights.
Had a tilt table test done at the Neurologist, I failed it in spectacular fashion, 36/24 and was still mostly coherent. It's just one of those things I just plan for depending on what I'm doing. With squats I can stabilize myself with the cage, deads, I just make sure my landing area is clear. Semper Fi |
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it happened to me fairly regularly last year, i would always rest my arms over the bar so i wouldn't drop and knock myself out. would typically see gray static in my vision.
this year for some reason it happens very rarely and I've been doing a lot heavier and more often. |
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Quoted: When you hold your breath, you increase your intrathoracic pressure (the pressure in your chest). THe aorta is a big, thick vessel...it carries blood away from the heart to the lower body. THe inferior vena cava (large vein that carries blood back to your heart from the lower extremities) is thin. WHen you hold your breath and exert yourself, you collapse the vena cava, so that blood can't return to the heart and your blood pressure drops. DOn't do that. View Quote Sorry, based on other responses in this thread you and I are fools for believing this. So take your science elsewhere. It won't be tolerated here. |
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Quoted: Sorry, based on other responses in this thread you and I are fools for believing this. So take your science elsewhere. It won't be tolerated here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: When you hold your breath, you increase your intrathoracic pressure (the pressure in your chest). THe aorta is a big, thick vessel...it carries blood away from the heart to the lower body. THe inferior vena cava (large vein that carries blood back to your heart from the lower extremities) is thin. WHen you hold your breath and exert yourself, you collapse the vena cava, so that blood can't return to the heart and your blood pressure drops. DOn't do that. Sorry, based on other responses in this thread you and I are fools for believing this. So take your science elsewhere. It won't be tolerated here. Strain against a hard squat for 10 sec or so while holding valsalva and yeah, you will probably risk loss of consciousness. I would argue that a brief loss of blood pressure, say 5 sec or so to complete a hard lift, isn't going to come with any significant risk. Not using the valsalva has some real risks though, like herniated discs. How much are you guys squatting while breathing? I can do it with 3 plates probably, but 4 or 5 would probably end with me in a wheelchair. |
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Quoted: When you hold your breath, you increase your intrathoracic pressure (the pressure in your chest). THe aorta is a big, thick vessel...it carries blood away from the heart to the lower body. THe inferior vena cava (large vein that carries blood back to your heart from the lower extremities) is thin. WHen you hold your breath and exert yourself, you collapse the vena cava, so that blood can't return to the heart and your blood pressure drops. DOn't do that. View Quote So, every elite powerlifter and weightlifter in the world is wrong? Men squat 1,000 pounds using the valsava maneuver. How are they still alive? Stop taking about things which you are ignorant. |
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Quoted: Strain against a hard squat for 10 sec or so while holding valsalva and yeah, you will probably risk loss of consciousness. I would argue that a brief loss of blood pressure, say 5 sec or so to complete a hard lift, isn't going to come with any significant risk. Not using the valsalva has some real risks though, like herniated discs. How much are you guys squatting while breathing? I can do it with 3 plates probably, but 4 or 5 would probably end with me in a wheelchair. View Quote I'm old so I don't go for max lifts anymore. On a REALLY good day I can get 4 for 4. That might happen once every other month. Maybe. Just so we're all clear, I take a deep breath at the top, drop down as low as my old knees will let me go and press up out of the hole. My breath is held for the first couple of inches of upward travel then I begin to exhale. My post about not holding your breath was directed at people who hold their breath for the entire movement. Full travel down and back up. We love to make fun of the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness going off because people are grunting. What do you think the grunting is? |
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Quoted: I'm old so I don't go for max lifts anymore. On a REALLY good day I can get 4 for 4. That might happen once every other month. Maybe. Just so we're all clear, I take a deep breath at the top, drop down as low as my old knees will let me go and press up out of the hole. My breath is held for the first couple of inches of upward travel then I begin to exhale. My post about not holding your breath was directed at people who hold their breath for the entire movement. Full travel down and back up. We love to make fun of the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness going off because people are grunting. What do you think the grunting is? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Strain against a hard squat for 10 sec or so while holding valsalva and yeah, you will probably risk loss of consciousness. I would argue that a brief loss of blood pressure, say 5 sec or so to complete a hard lift, isn't going to come with any significant risk. Not using the valsalva has some real risks though, like herniated discs. How much are you guys squatting while breathing? I can do it with 3 plates probably, but 4 or 5 would probably end with me in a wheelchair. I'm old so I don't go for max lifts anymore. On a REALLY good day I can get 4 for 4. That might happen once every other month. Maybe. Just so we're all clear, I take a deep breath at the top, drop down as low as my old knees will let me go and press up out of the hole. My breath is held for the first couple of inches of upward travel then I begin to exhale. My post about not holding your breath was directed at people who hold their breath for the entire movement. Full travel down and back up. We love to make fun of the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness going off because people are grunting. What do you think the grunting is? So you do hold your breath. Cool. Most of us just hold our breath for a few seconds longer than you do. Don't be all uppity when you say something goofy and get called on it. |
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Quoted: I'm old so I don't go for max lifts anymore. On a REALLY good day I can get 4 for 4. That might happen once every other month. Maybe. Just so we're all clear, I take a deep breath at the top, drop down as low as my old knees will let me go and press up out of the hole. My breath is held for the first couple of inches of upward travel then I begin to exhale. My post about not holding your breath was directed at people who hold their breath for the entire movement. Full travel down and back up. We love to make fun of the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness going off because people are grunting. What do you think the grunting is? View Quote Why do you want to lose your tightness on the way up? Sounds like a good way to get injured. |
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Quoted: Why do you want to lose your tightness on the way up? Sounds like a good way to get injured. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm old so I don't go for max lifts anymore. On a REALLY good day I can get 4 for 4. That might happen once every other month. Maybe. Just so we're all clear, I take a deep breath at the top, drop down as low as my old knees will let me go and press up out of the hole. My breath is held for the first couple of inches of upward travel then I begin to exhale. My post about not holding your breath was directed at people who hold their breath for the entire movement. Full travel down and back up. We love to make fun of the Lunk Alarm at Planet Fitness going off because people are grunting. What do you think the grunting is? Why do you want to lose your tightness on the way up? Sounds like a good way to get injured. I used to suffer exactly what the OP was asking about. Exhaling during most of the upward movement cured the problem. |
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Quoted: You're not holding your breath for 10 reps. Inhale going down, exhale at the top The light headedness is caused by lack of O2 and the drop in BP which occurs after your set. Your muscles require more O2 for heavy lifts, but since you're holding your breath and working hard they can't get it. The heart tries to pump more blood to compensate, thus increasing BP which then drops / returns to normal after your exertion is over causing the light headedness. It's a sign of a good set. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't hold your breath. Inhale going down, exhale coming back up Dont do that. Holding your breathe allows you to tighten your core, considering that your core is the thing holding all that weight.. a tight core is important. You're not holding your breath for 10 reps. Inhale going down, exhale at the top The light headedness is caused by lack of O2 and the drop in BP which occurs after your set. Your muscles require more O2 for heavy lifts, but since you're holding your breath and working hard they can't get it. The heart tries to pump more blood to compensate, thus increasing BP which then drops / returns to normal after your exertion is over causing the light headedness. It's a sign of a good set. https://www.google.com/search?q=valsalva+maneuver |
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Quoted: Quoted: If I exhaled when I started up I would black out. i start exhaling after I'm about 1/3 of the way up from depth. I've tried holding my breath till I'm at the top bit that increases my dizziness. i hold my breath till I'm definitely out of the hole then it's a controlled exhale through the rest of the rise. |
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