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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:48:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Fuck the aft. Don’t understand how they find the time to raid a business when it’s clear they are very busy guzzling cum by the bucket.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:49:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Again?...or am I mistaken?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:49:48 PM EDT
[#3]
Fuck the AFT
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:51:22 PM EDT
[#4]
So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:53:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? They use FedEx for that first. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#6]
If you're going to be interviewed by someone for broadcast, do it somewhere with good internet service and not from your freakin' car. Couldn't get past two minutes.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#7]
At the end of the youtube segment, John Crane stated that yes, AFT does have the RBT customer list....
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:53:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? If they're lucky they'll just have to turn in their $300 trigger If they're really lucky, ATF will get its pepe slapped. I guess they didn't win in court so they had to go HAM? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:54:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Did they burn the women and children alive again?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:55:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again?...or am I mistaken? They were visited and served with a letter asking them to stop selling them, which they refused to do. This is something new. I hope they prevail in court. I'll buy multiple of these triggers if they do. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:56:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:56:24 PM EDT
[#12]
FATF
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Posted: 1/13/2022 6:57:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". They’re coming. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:02:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". Why the fuck would RB even keep such a list |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:02:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Cash and carry everything.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:02:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:03:06 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck would RB even keep such a list Was actually a honeypot?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:05:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they're lucky they'll just have to turn in their $300 trigger If they're really lucky, ATF will get its pepe slapped. I guess they didn't win in court so they had to go HAM? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? If they're lucky they'll just have to turn in their $300 trigger If they're really lucky, ATF will get its pepe slapped. I guess they didn't win in court so they had to go HAM? What trigger? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:10:31 PM EDT
[#19]
My bet ATF wants their sales list. Go after those Jan 6 insurrectionists!!
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:12:42 PM EDT
[#20]
ATF did this the day after Rare Breed got the injunction against WOT, probably hoping they’d burn through financial resources.
Fuck the atf. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:13:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they burn the women and children alive again? Doesn't that happen when they go to get the actual sold triggers? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:13:22 PM EDT
[#22]
But what happens to a customer if they sold their Rare Breed Trigger int he home depot parking lot?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:14:22 PM EDT
[#23]
You guys that shipped them to your neighbor, please give them a heads up.
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:15:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck would RB even keep such a list I think it's just part of the typical ecommerce packages people get when they set up a retail website. If you buy a lens cap from a camera shop online, you'll be on a similar list. That said, it is absolutely ridiculous that any gun industry manufacturer or retailer that makes or sells anything like a brace, an 80% receiver or a trigger that lets you simulate full auto fire would actually keep customer information. There is a small, but less than zero chance RBT was a fed honey pot from the beginning. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:16:34 PM EDT
[#25]
For posterity: dupe
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Hearing-on-YT-That-Rare-Breed-Triggers-Raided/5-2521813/ |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:18:06 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But what happens to a customer if they sold their Rare Breed Trigger int he home depot parking lot? Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:20:24 PM EDT
[#27]
I thought they won a court case or something and were in the clear. Am I thinking of something else?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:20:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But what happens to a customer if they sold their Rare Breed Trigger int he home depot parking lot? Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. Legally what meets or doesn't meet the definition of being a MG isn't up to us. By plain English? Sure. Those who work for the government don't care. If they say a duck on your pond is actually a giraffe and you've violated some regulation relating to giraffes - and they can get a court to agree - then guess what?  Well. Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:21:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. Just like bumpstocks? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:23:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're going to be interviewed by someone for broadcast, do it somewhere with good internet service and not from your freakin' car. Couldn't get past two minutes. Yeah, I shut it off at 1:47. Dumb. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:24:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just like bumpstocks? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. Just like bumpstocks? Or a shoestring (for a number of years) or a business card containing a laser engraving of a lightning link or... Hell of a thing. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:24:30 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally the trigger doesn't meet the definition of an MG. This is all political bullshit as the reason they are moving on these pure and simple. You say "Legally", like it means anything. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:24:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Gots to justify dat budgit!
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:25:40 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cash and carry everything. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:28:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:37:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it's just part of the typical ecommerce packages people get when they set up a retail website. If you buy a lens cap from a camera shop online, you'll be on a similar list. That said, it is absolutely ridiculous that any gun industry manufacturer or retailer that makes or sells anything like a brace, an 80% receiver or a trigger that lets you simulate full auto fire would actually keep customer information. There is a small, but less than zero chance RBT was a fed honey pot from the beginning. Isn't Spikes Tactical behind RB? If the fed leakes (true or not) that it was a honeypot, it would destroy what business they have. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:41:12 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:43:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? It'd be good if we all (FRT owners) pooled together and hired someone top notch. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:43:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? I only know one guy in Montana and I doubt he works in WY. Actually it's been long enough that he may not be in business any more. Perhaps we should start compiling a list of lawyers to contact. Quoted: It'd be good if we all (FRT owners) pooled together and hired someone top notch. I'd be down for that. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:45:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I only know one guy in Montana and I doubt he works in WY. Actually it's been long enough that he may not be in business any more. Perhaps we should start compiling a list of lawyers to contact. I'd be down for that. reckon the atf would supply that list so we could contact the other owners? :) |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: reckon the atf would supply that list so we could contact the other owners? :) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I only know one guy in Montana and I doubt he works in WY. Actually it's been long enough that he may not be in business any more. Perhaps we should start compiling a list of lawyers to contact. I'd be down for that. reckon the atf would supply that list so we could contact the other owners? :) 
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: reckon the atf would supply that list so we could contact the other owners? :) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I only know one guy in Montana and I doubt he works in WY. Actually it's been long enough that he may not be in business any more. Perhaps we should start compiling a list of lawyers to contact. I'd be down for that. reckon the atf would supply that list so we could contact the other owners? :) We could try writing them a letter?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:46:56 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:47:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Is this Deja Vu all over again or is this the ATF action after the Rare Breed complaint over the cease and desist got thrown out?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:47:28 PM EDT
[#45]
@jaquefrost I wonder your thoughts on this?
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:48:34 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:50:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:52:40 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cash and carry everything. Don't forget to wear your mask. Don't be a super spreader. |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:55:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck would RB even keep such a list Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I wonder if they now have a list of every single RB customer and will be coming after them for owning machine guns? The guy in the video said they DO have the customer list and to "be aware of that". Why the fuck would RB even keep such a list Good luck finding any vendor that doesn’t retain a “list” |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 7:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Might as well use the Ben method and make them work for it and lawyer up! This is exactly my plan, @Ben is 100% right that everyone needs to lawyer up, not speak to the ATF, and collectively make their job as tough as possible. I bought one of these solely as an act of protest with the plan of putting a good firearms attorney on retainer once the time came. Anyone have any recommendations on an attorney who would be up for this sort of work? A proper attorney for this sort of thing runs about $250.00 per hour ...... how long do you plan to "protest" ???? You're right - the second amendment isn't that important. 
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