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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:24:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
What would you incorporate into your personal design ?
Monolithic uppers/lowers ...sidechargers ... I have a few ideas but I'd take a SFAR/POF lower for long cartridges with the .378 bolt face . The polymer lower and traditional SCR type lowers are nice . What would your build ? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:27:08 PM EST
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We used to have a Build-A-Bear thing on here
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:28:55 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bennnn: We used to have a Build-A-Bear thing on here https://www.ar15.com/gunstruction/ |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:30:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: What would you incorporate into your personal design ? Monolithic uppers/lowers ...sidechargers ... I have a few ideas but I'd take a SFAR/POF lower for long cartridges with the .378 bolt face . The polymer lower and traditional SCR type lowers are nice . What would your build ? Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:33:18 PM EST
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G upper 14.5, MK4 rail, G lower with Sopmod. Vortex LPVO, Surefire Scout, Kac VFG, and a Vickers sling. Cote job by Madpigs in MC.
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:37:51 PM EST
[#5]
20mm
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:37:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: What would you incorporate into your personal design ? Monolithic uppers/lowers ...sidechargers ... I have a few ideas but I'd take a SFAR/POF lower for long cartridges with the .378 bolt face . The polymer lower and traditional SCR type lowers are nice . What would your build ? Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. What are the downsides? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:39:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By basp2005: 20mm I like the big bores. How about a long lower on an ar10 to fit 338 lapua at least ? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:40:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: goodcat]
[#8]
The design was 95% perfected, through the years it's been 98% perfected, let's say.
We're all fighting over the last 2%. Most of the perfection increase in our lifetime has been ammo quality, which we take for granted now and only care about new guns, accessories, secondarily optics. The firearms and barrels have been near perfected, as much as possible, they need good ammo, we need a good optic or sight to use them. So that's my design. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:45:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: What are the downsides? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: What would you incorporate into your personal design ? Monolithic uppers/lowers ...sidechargers ... I have a few ideas but I'd take a SFAR/POF lower for long cartridges with the .378 bolt face . The polymer lower and traditional SCR type lowers are nice . What would your build ? Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. What are the downsides? Excess weight of the monolithic upper. Though a monolithic polymer lower & a monolithic aluminum upper would make for a pretty tough gun. I think a Saint Edge ATC lower, a Vism thumbhole stock, and a semi-monolithic upper w/ the bottom portion of the rail removed & the Edge ATC lower trimmed to fit would be ridiculously heavy but very robust. I'm fond of thumbhole stocks - I built my Lyndon from an AR57 upper, a thumbhole stock & a trigger jig. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:51:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Excess weight of the monolithic upper. Though a monolithic polymer lower & a monolithic aluminum upper would make for a pretty tough gun. I think a Saint Edge ATC lower, a Vism thumbhole stock, and a semi-monolithic upper w/ the bottom portion of the rail removed & the Edge ATC lower trimmed to fit would be ridiculously heavy but very robust. I'm fond of thumbhole stocks - I built my Lyndon from an AR57 upper, a thumbhole stock & a trigger jig. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: What would you incorporate into your personal design ? Monolithic uppers/lowers ...sidechargers ... I have a few ideas but I'd take a SFAR/POF lower for long cartridges with the .378 bolt face . The polymer lower and traditional SCR type lowers are nice . What would your build ? Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. What are the downsides? Excess weight of the monolithic upper. Though a monolithic polymer lower & a monolithic aluminum upper would make for a pretty tough gun. I think a Saint Edge ATC lower, a Vism thumbhole stock, and a semi-monolithic upper w/ the bottom portion of the rail removed & the Edge ATC lower trimmed to fit would be ridiculously heavy but very robust. I'm fond of thumbhole stocks - I built my Lyndon from an AR57 upper, a thumbhole stock & a trigger jig. An abbreviated monolithic upper would take the weight out ...and still able to change out forends . I'd make a polymer sfar/pof lower ...could crank out a ton of them . I'd do a side-charger like ASA that doesn't have a proprietary cam pin ...just notch the carrier . |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:53:43 PM EST
[#11]
Bren2
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:55:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. A This exactly. 2 things nobody wants |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:57:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: goodcat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: An abbreviated monolithic upper would take the weight out ...and still able to change out forends . I'd make a polymer sfar/pof lower ...could crank out a ton of them . I'd do a side-charger like ASA that doesn't have a proprietary cam pin ...just notch the carrier . Engineering different areas of a 7 lb rifle and ending up with a 7 lb rifle doesn't mean an improved rifle. The design is obviously perfected, if someone had a better idea in the past 64 years we wouldn't be talking about this. AR15 is the musket. 64 years old now. It's perfect. You can build them with a router and drill at home and assemble the upper parts.. It's literally the modern musket. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 8:59:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Engineering different areas of a 7 lb rifle and ending up with a 7 lb rifle doesn't mean an improved rifle. The design is obviously perfected, if someone had a better idea in the past 64 years we wouldn't be talking about this. AR15 is the musket. 64 years. It's perfect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: An abbreviated monolithic upper would take the weight out ...and still able to change out forends . I'd make a polymer sfar/pof lower ...could crank out a ton of them . I'd do a side-charger like ASA that doesn't have a proprietary cam pin ...just notch the carrier . Engineering different areas of a 7 lb rifle and ending up with a 7 lb rifle doesn't mean an improved rifle. The design is obviously perfected, if someone had a better idea in the past 64 years we wouldn't be talking about this. AR15 is the musket. 64 years. It's perfect. You don't think taking the forend mounting off the bbl nut is a good idea ? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:03:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: You don't think taking the forend mounting off the bbl nut is a good idea ? I don't care what you do, it's your gun. Put whatever fore-end you want on it. Torque it correctly and use a good barrel/barrel nut, be safe and follow the directions if you don't know what you're doing. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:05:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: A This exactly. 2 things nobody wants Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whiskerz: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. A This exactly. 2 things nobody wants It doesn't have to be those two things either. CMMG and Remington have had proprietary uppers ...Ruger and Pof proprietary lowers . |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:06:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: You don't think taking the forend mounting off the bbl nut is a good idea ? Oh I get it now, lol, clever girl. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:08:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: I don't care what you do, it's your gun. Put whatever fore-end you want on it. Torque it correctly and use a good barrel/barrel nut, be safe and follow the directions if you don't know what you're doing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: You don't think taking the forend mounting off the bbl nut is a good idea ? I don't care what you do, it's your gun. Put whatever fore-end you want on it. Torque it correctly and use a good barrel/barrel nut, be safe and follow the directions if you don't know what you're doing. So you like it like it is . You would dissuade innovation? You're not on the engineering committee are you ? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:10:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Oh I get it now, lol, clever girl. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: You don't think taking the forend mounting off the bbl nut is a good idea ? Oh I get it now, lol, clever girl. This is a community. You're supposed to share ideas . |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:13:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: goodcat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: So you like it like it is . You would dissuade innovation? You're not on the engineering committee are you ?  the missile is very tired. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:15:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: So you like it like it is . You would dissuade innovation? You're not on the engineering committee are you ? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:16:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: So you like it like it is . You would dissuade innovation? You're not on the engineering committee are you ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BeqAcidOY0Good night, goodcat |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:17:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: goodcat]
[#23]
dude acts like a cop, real anxious
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:20:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Smith and Wesson engineered their revolvers real good in the late 90s when they were bought out by the British company and brought a lot of "value" to their lineup. Sometimes things are better left as is... I don't think there has been anything truly revolutionary on the AR since flat top uppers and mounting systems for guys in the military that have to strap a lot of shit on their rifles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: So you like it like it is . You would dissuade innovation? You're not on the engineering committee are you ? True . Sometimes though a series of incremental innovations can keep up with revolutionary. I was just asking for ideas if there were any . |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:21:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: goodcat]
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Address: 7915 Microsoft Way, Charlotte, NC 28273
Hours: Open 24 hours just a joke of course, just pulling your lil leg 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:26:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: dude acts like a cop, real anxious Dude , wtf |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:28:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: True . Sometimes though a series of incremental innovations can keep up with revolutionary. I was just asking for ideas if there were any . |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:36:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Too bad narphenal isn't around to educate us about the SIG MCX. It is the pinnacle of rifle technology (until sig phases it out in 5 years). That thing is too heavy . Nothing wrong with 6.8 but I'd base it off of either .204 ruger , or a stretched spc or Grendel case . I personally think the 222 family stretched past the arbitrary coal of 2.26" is the gold mine . Somewhere between 6 and 6.5mm . Germany made a nice little cartridge back about 1970 called the 5.6x50 magnum ...would be sweet necked up and put in an sfar lower . |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:41:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Dude , wtf Where's a link for an improved ar15, and what would you recommend reading |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:43:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: That thing is too heavy . Nothing wrong with 6.8 but I'd base it off of either .204 ruger , or a stretched spc or Grendel case . I personally think the 222 family stretched past the arbitrary coal of 2.26" is the gold mine . Somewhere between 6 and 6.5mm . Germany made a nice little cartridge back about 1970 called the 5.6x50 magnum ...would be sweet necked up and put in an sfar lower . LOL |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 9:45:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Where's a link for an improved ar15, and what would you recommend reading Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Dude , wtf Where's a link for an improved ar15, and what would you recommend reading I asked for ideas. No links necessary...what are your ideas ? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:03:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: LOL Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By goodcat: Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: That thing is too heavy . Nothing wrong with 6.8 but I'd base it off of either .204 ruger , or a stretched spc or Grendel case . I personally think the 222 family stretched past the arbitrary coal of 2.26" is the gold mine . Somewhere between 6 and 6.5mm . Germany made a nice little cartridge back about 1970 called the 5.6x50 magnum ...would be sweet necked up and put in an sfar lower . LOL Well you've got 6.5 Grendel, 6 arc , 22 arc , 224 Valk, 6.8 spc , 22 nosler , 25-45 , 277 wolverine , 204 ruger , 350 legend , 300blk , 300 hamr , 375 socom , 458 socom , 450 bushmaster , 400 legend , .... |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:25:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bollocks44: Originally Posted By bennnn: We used to have a Build-A-Bear thing on here https://www.ar15.com/gunstruction/ I thought folks here would have some neat ideas . |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:29:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. Do you even SCAR bro? |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:47:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter8793: Do you even SCAR bro? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter8793: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. Do you even SCAR bro? There be no scaring. Shame there is no innovating ideas coming from ARFCOM. It's such a large community. You'd think the users here would have some suggestions . Weird too how the 6.8spc and 6.5grendel came out 20 years ago . The chicoms came up with their 5.8x42 ...I thought we'd do nice to counter them with a 6x47 based off 204 ruger and 6arc . If nothing else a 5.56x47 would do well in the 75 to 85gr range . |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:51:58 PM EST
[#36]
Eliminate the buffer tube, so you have more options for folding stocks.
I know there are a few designs like this out there already. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:55:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: There be no scaring. Shame there is no innovating ideas coming from ARFCOM. It's such a large community. You'd think the users here would have some suggestions . Weird too how the 6.8spc and 6.5grendel came out 20 years ago . The chicoms came up with their 5.8x42 ...I thought we'd do nice to counter them with a 6x47 based off 204 ruger and 6arc . If nothing else a 5.56x47 would do well in the 75 to 85gr range . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9D1Alpha: Originally Posted By Hunter8793: Originally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Monolithic upper with a polymer lower sounds like the worst thing in the history of the universe. Do you even SCAR bro? There be no scaring. Shame there is no innovating ideas coming from ARFCOM. It's such a large community. You'd think the users here would have some suggestions . Weird too how the 6.8spc and 6.5grendel came out 20 years ago . The chicoms came up with their 5.8x42 ...I thought we'd do nice to counter them with a 6x47 based off 204 ruger and 6arc . If nothing else a 5.56x47 would do well in the 75 to 85gr range . You're in GD. GD hates everything, including innovation. Go to Tech to get actual discussion. GD is largely for entertainment and for bots to sway political winds one way or t'other. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 10:56:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ConcernedCitizen: Eliminate the buffer tube, so you have more options for folding stocks. I know there are a few designs like this out there already. Or a captured spring design . |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:03:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: You're in GD. GD hates everything, including innovation. Go to Tech to get actual discussion. GD is largely for entertainment and for bots to sway political winds one way or t'other. I appreciate that, backbencher . Will do . |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:05:09 PM EST
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:11:45 PM EST
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 WANINANUNINUNINU - Pitch Perfect: Bumper in Berlin |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:12:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coldair: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169304/IMG_2279-1168804.jpg Monolithic ...nice |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:22:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ConcernedCitizen: Eliminate the buffer tube, so you have more options for folding stocks. I know there are a few designs like this out there already. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:25:46 PM EST
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More horns. You can never find a horn when you're pissed off. And cup holders, lots of cup holders.
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:33:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Nothing is stopping you from removing your buffer tubes on your AR's. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By ConcernedCitizen: Eliminate the buffer tube, so you have more options for folding stocks. I know there are a few designs like this out there already. The lack of a bufferless BCG is, at the moment.   Attached File Attached FileI'd really like to see designs like this become more prevalent. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:37:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ConcernedCitizen: The lack of a bufferless BCG is, at the moment. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72701/OIP_-_2023-11-20T202824_692_jpeg-3034647.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72701/OIP_-_2023-11-20T202920_853_jpeg-3034648.JPG I'd really like to see designs like this become more prevalent.  Those are interesting. I wonder what the durability of the smaller springs are and what their tolerance range for gas is. Maybe for select applications where $$$ and parts aren't a concern those could be cool. |
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Posted: 11/20/2023 11:39:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: OH you want it to also work? Man you can't please some people. Those are interesting. I wonder what the durability of the smaller springs are and what their tolerance range for gas is. Maybe for select applications where $$$ and parts aren't a concern those could be cool. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By ConcernedCitizen: The lack of a bufferless BCG is, at the moment. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72701/OIP_-_2023-11-20T202824_692_jpeg-3034647.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/72701/OIP_-_2023-11-20T202920_853_jpeg-3034648.JPG I'd really like to see designs like this become more prevalent. Those are interesting. I wonder what the durability of the smaller springs are and what their tolerance range for gas is. Maybe for select applications where $$$ and parts aren't a concern those could be cool. It's basically a larger version of a .22LR BCG. |
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Posted: 11/21/2023 12:27:12 AM EST
[#48]
Make it so it takes Glock mags and chambered in 5.56".
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 1:08:18 AM EST
[#49]
Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/21/2023 8:48:31 AM EST
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I'm curious if the Desert tech quad15 lower/mag will double stack and feed socom calibers .
I'd also like to see Aeoromet (?) Bolts/extensions for Grendel/ARC loadings . Lastly, an AK magwell SCR lower . For the upper a nice set of low sight radius sights with a bbl mounted hooded front sight (SKSish) . ..oh, and a side-charger . |
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