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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:15:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:16:24 PM EDT
[#2]
So roll over and let commies win
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:17:11 PM EDT
[#3]
No comment
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:17:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a setup ffs. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:18:19 PM EDT
[#5]
How much money have they raised?
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:18:30 PM EDT
[#6]
I understand the strategic picture right now. I think this is wise in the short term.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:18:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Every conservative rally/protest/demonstration will be reported by the news as a possible domestic terror event from now on.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:19:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a setup ffs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a setup ffs. This. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a setup ffs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a setup ffs. All of this is a setup. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:19:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:20:24 PM EDT
[#11]
Lots of ppl eager to be cannon fodder apparently.
I’d trust Ben’s judgement. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:20:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So roll over and let commies win |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:09 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan No not really, but please, continue. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every conservative rally/protest/demonstration will be reported by the news as a possible domestic terror event from now on. That's not new. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every conservative rally/protest/demonstration will be reported by the news as a possible domestic terror event from now on. Meaning conservatives have -0- avenue for dissent. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. This guy gets it. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:21:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Basically, there's no longer any point in mass armed protests.
Mass protests, maybe...but even those I'm gonna be wary off going forward if there isn't an independent, civilian, armed over watch of some sort. I simply no longer trust the government to not open up on us with rooftop snipers like Bashar al Assad. It's not too far removed from what happened at the capital, frankly. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So roll over and let commies win No. I assure you, Ben is thinking with his mind in the right place. He was part of why LD2020 was such a great success. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:23:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. So dont give them what they want. They're also happy with conservatives staying home and not organizing. Make everyone feel alone, inside their homes. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:23:21 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. The militia formed up "in the open" against the Regulars daily for weeks or months prior to the Lexington exchange. There is certainly something to be said for showing up to make the existence of 'our side' known, if only for recruitment purposes. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:23:33 PM EDT
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As the old adage goes, "when the going gets tough, it's better for your resources be better focused elsewhere."
Good luck in all of your future endeavors. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. So, how we planning on "fighting" now? Can we even write sternly worded letters, or will those be considered "terrorism" too? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:24:36 PM EDT
[#24]
Weak AF.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:24:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. DING DING DING |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:24:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. I assure you, Ben is thinking with his mind in the right place. He was part of why LD2020 was such a great success. Lobby Day was a success regardless of Arfcom’s clubs. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:25:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Until one fights like he has nothing to lose, he has everything to lose.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:25:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Yeah I'm gonna side with Ben on this one...
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:25:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan LOL |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:26:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This guy gets it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. This guy gets it. Solid strategy Gomer. Don’t fight because that’s exactly what they want us to do?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:26:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Wish I knew what the info that came up that pushed this decision was but Ben seems like a sound minded individual and I wish him and APC the best
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:26:59 PM EDT
[#32]
Maybe next year? It's ok, not like this is a critical year in gun rights. Totally get that supervisory 1811s would never ok this.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:28:54 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This guy gets it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dems are trying goad gun owners into a violent conflict. The British wanted our founding fathers to fight in the open too. This guy gets it. +1 Fight smart, not hard. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I knew what the info that came up that pushed this decision was but Ben seems like a sound minded individual and I wish him and APC the best Maybe that info should be out in the open to help us all understand and identify the threats. Maybe that info should also be forwarded to VA republicans and state police so they know too. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:29:25 PM EDT
[#35]
I see we have lots of chest thumpers from out of state assembling here, who don’t understand the terrain and conditions. This was a toss-up at best even before 1/6 IMO. The legislators aren’t even there (due to covid) and there is a much more complicated legal thicket this year.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every conservative rally/protest/demonstration will be reported by the news as a possible domestic terror event from now on. So we're back at optics again? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:30:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see we have lots of chest thumpers from out of state assembling here, who don’t understand the terrain and conditions. This was a toss-up at best even before 1/6 IMO. The legislators aren’t even there (due to covid) and there is a much more complicated legal thicket this year. You forgot that the governor sucks 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:31:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Does anyone here believe another violent protest at a State capitol is just the ticket? Don't fight dumb. Everything right now needs to be about making THEM look like the extremists. Which they are.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:31:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot that the governor sucks No change from last year on that one. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:32:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No change from last year on that one. Yep that’s for sure. Thanks for your good work on helping VA gun rights sir! |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:32:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobby Day was a success regardless of Arfcom’s clubs. Notice my use of the word “Part”. The media focused on us doing formation. They had countless hours of airplay of us. We weren’t the whole event. We made a very significant spectacle |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:33:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Anyone talking shit here had plans to show up and form up on Bank like we did last year?
No? Any of you confront Saslaw when he came out of the parking garage at 0645? No? Any of you tell the cop telling people to remove mags to fuck off? No? Shut the fuck up then. Becasue I was the one who did ALL those things (Sorry about telling the cop to fuck off, Ben) Goading people in to starting shit from the sidelines is easy. This isn't about risk. It's about risk / reward / the actual fight. There's no AWB on the docket this year. They aren't even there and there's no mass rally and vcdl has some dumb shit drive around in circles thing going on. But by all means, goad your brothers into a setup. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:35:01 PM EDT
[#43]
I have no dog in this fight but the logic is sound.
Putting yourself in a position in which you are unlikely to win the fight (metaphorical fight, not an actual one) is bad strategy. The optics (and yes, despite the meme of "muh optics", they absolutely do matter) do not favor a repeat of Lobby Day 2020 in this climate. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:35:03 PM EDT
[#44]
You're not going to do anyone any good if you're in prison.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone talking shit here had plans to show up and form up on Bank like we did last year? No? Any of you confront Saslaw when he came out of the parking garage at 0645? No? Any of you tell the cop telling people to remove mags to fuck off? No? Shut the fuck up then. Becasue I was the one who did ALL those things (Sorry about telling the cop to fuck off, Ben) Goading people in to starting shit from the sidelines is easy. This isn't about risk. It's about risk / reward / the actual fight. There's no AWB on the docket this year. They aren't even there and there's no mass rally and vcdl has some dumb shit drive around in circles thing going on. But by all means, goad your brothers into a setup. You’re simple AF if you think hiding and being a good boy means they are not going to come for your guns, your money, your life. Open your fucking eyes to what has been going on the past few months dude. If you can’t figure it out by now then God help you when the switch is finally flipped. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:36:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Father Boog is dissapoint....
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:37:52 PM EDT
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I really think the fight is about free speech right now. Guns aren't even on the table.
Edit......yet..... |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:38:07 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobby Day was a success regardless of Arfcom's clubs. I'm sure the lack of participation from APC will not be noticed in the turnout. I'm planning on going solo this time. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no dog in this fight but the logic is sound. Putting yourself in a position in which you are unlikely to win the fight (metaphorical fight, not an actual one) is bad strategy. The optics (and yes, despite the meme of "muh optics", they absolutely do matter) do not favor a repeat of Lobby Day 2020 in this climate. A show of force lets them know we can’t be bullied. The canceling events is a signal to them that canceling us works. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:39:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Meet up at Sine' pub in the Bottom instead. Cheers and beers.
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